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Old 10-18-2013, 09:56 AM
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Drove the E63S 4M in the rain! -Opinions

Yesterday we had lots of rain so I went with my Father in his new E63S 4M to the store and got to drive it home cause he wanted me to see how different it was than my car in bad weather.

The car is unbelievable! I floored it from a standstill and there was no wheel spin, the power went down the same as if it were dry! We went through some tight turns and took them at the speed limit without any grip issues or need to apply the breaks.

The 4matic really makes the car behave completely different. It doesnt even feel like an AMG to me anymore. Sure the sound is there and its obviously quick but the increased traction makes it too easy to drive fast lol.

After getting a good go in it though I have to admit that the C63 is more fun. The E63S 4M is a great car in its own way but it wont bring a smile on your face the same way a C63 does -Unless you are in bad weather haha
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Thanks for the opinion. I'd be interested to see how fun it is in the snow with a good set of snow tires.
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And that's why I'm never buying a toy car AWD, it sucks. I like messing around when I take a corner. AWD is not for me, neither is the winter. Time for me to move to Cali!
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i drive them all, fast and hard
no please stay in florida
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no please stay in florida
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no please stay in florida
NY is too close to home, California sounds good. Just messing with u Alex. Lol
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no please stay in florida
Don't worry I won't come bother you when you gonna be selling the free hats you got at the AMG events.

I promise.
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^^ ouch, touché lol
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Don't worry I won't come bother you when you gonna be selling the free hats you got at the AMG events.

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ouch!

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And that's why I'm never buying a toy car AWD, it sucks. I like messing around when I take a corner. AWD is not for me, neither is the winter. Time for me to move to Cali!
After owning 4 turbo awd cars I massively concur!
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felt the same when i drove the car at AMG academy. massively fast but meh not as fun. its only good for 0-60 times anyways
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
AWD helps only with starting, and going up an incline. AWD does nothing with turning.
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AWD helps only with starting, and going up an incline. AWD does nothing with turning.
Tell that to nissan and the gtr lol it has fully variable AWD with locking differential that routes torque to individual wheels when powering through a turn/apex that helps pull you through the turn and rotate the car. Thats how a 3800 pound car with AWD car run better times than a 3200 pound ferrari with RWD. Theres no doubt it can help turn when used the right way but its still not for me i prefer the feel of RWD and love getting that tail to whip around. Not saying id never get AWD but my preference for fun is rwd if i was a time h0e and trying to get every second of my imaginary laps in the backroads maybe id get awd
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i drive them all, fast and hard
I'll give you a hat if you stay. I just don't to hear more stories about how you drive 170 mph on the freeway racing other cars. Keep that on the 95. Stay away from the 405
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
95 is probably still a little crowded. What about the I-5 in the middle of Cali? Lots of open space there. Hey, I'm gonna stay where I am, too. Can I get a free hat, too?

I have always been a big proponet of Nissan's ATTESA-ETS PRO and I hope the partial collaboration of Renault and Diamler would allow the technology to trickle over to the AMG's AWD system. However, that doesn't seem to be happening.

When a car is turning, the AWD helps the turn by working on the 4 vectors that are always pointing straight ahead of the tires' rolling direction. AWD does nothing to the 4 lateral vectors during a turn. Thus the bigger the turn, the less the straight ahead vectors and the bigger the lateral vectors. An extreme example of this would be to compare how fast two identical vehicles with the exact same tires, one with AWD and one without, slide down a slope completely sideway. There will be no difference whether no wheels, two wheels, or four wheels are turning. Overall, AWD creates the illusion of helping with the turn when in fact it helps only with the 4 force vectors that point straight ahead of the tires.

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My lexus is awd, it handles better than the cl, but god it couldn't be more boring
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You are forgetting I was driving/turning in the rain where on a rwd car the car will break traction as you are holding the throttle down through the turn. On the E63 this didnt happen because the driven front wheels are pulling the car through the turn

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