C63 Coupe Edition 507 Long Tube Header Install
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C63 Coupe Edition 507 Long Tube Header Install
The wait is over, finally; Modern Horse Power (American Racing Headers) installed on the C63 Coupe 507. Has a catless setup, retaining the stock resonator and mufflers. Re-tuned with the Eurocharged ECU tune. Videos just don't do justice..real life is always better, of course. 2 links to the exhaust clips. Enjoy.
P.S. Thought some of you may get a kick outta the picture..
P.S. Thought some of you may get a kick outta the picture..
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Thanks guys. No dyno #s yet, crossing my fingers for Sunday at Eurocharged. She pulls quite hard, pretty noticeable until you get used to it haha.
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Curious to see how they measure up to some other brands claims, especially since I have eurocharged tune also.
For the videos were you in C or one of the other modes?
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Will try to keep up with my own threads; pretty bad for doing so. I was in M mode with complete ESP off I believe. Such a slide show I tell you.
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I have second cat and resonator delete now with straight pipes to an x pipe and I thought mine was loud compared to most aftermarket exhaust systems and sounded mean. But holy sh*t man that thing sounded crazy! Did you ever do a before dyno?
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It's honestly the way I want it. It is not loud under normal accelerations, moment you gun it, the angels are being awakened. I never did a dyno on the car. However from social media posts, the 507 with the EC tune, I believe pushed 448 WHP. I'm hoping to be well shy of 500 WHP.
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It's honestly the way I want it. It is not loud under normal accelerations, moment you gun it, the angels are being awakened. I never did a dyno on the car. However from social media posts, the 507 with the EC tune, I believe pushed 448 WHP. I'm hoping to be well shy of 500 WHP.
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Here is the reason I say this and I could be totally wrong but I was told by eurocharged like on my P31 and they said just like a 507 the tune would still only give us about 540hp. So if those guys are seeing those numbers I think most companies I was seeing I thought would expect 40rwhp out of their long tube headers that you should be at the 500 mark or really close!
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FYI those hp gain estimates are measured from a base C63, not a P31 or 507.
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But what I'm saying is Eurocharged told me there would be no difference on a P31 or a 507 as the extra hp is basically a little warrantied tune from the factory. And when we tune our P31 or 507 it erases that extra power it does not at the extra 90 or so over.
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Realistically you will be between 460-480 WHP. Which is on par with most with headers.
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Awesome! I just threw MBH headers on my white 507 coupe. They are insane!! I hooked it up with the Eurocharged V5 tune. I'm curious what your numbers will be. Subscribed!
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Man, I just love the sound of this, it sounds like a rapped ape! My two neighbors are both stuck up Porsche dbags, so this will go great with the new Viper I already modified loud as sh*t too.
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Magno507, yes it does. It sounds amazing, had few bikers and lot of random people off the streets complimenting the exhaust note.
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Based on my 507 with headers and tune you should be around 485rwhp. No way will you be at 500rwhp+ unless the dyno is really friendly. 500rw will take heads (easy top 500 then) or a bunch of incremental other tweaks like throttle bodies, filters, air box, upgrade rest of exhaust etc.
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Bazman, did you get any dyno results before and after the tune alone? From what I've read here the majority of the change to a 507 with a tune is the increased throttle blip during downshifting.
Would you agree with this?
Thank you !
Would you agree with this?
Thank you !
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Definitely disagree. While you will not see the same gain on a 507 as you will on a base C63 you will still see a worthwhile gain. Base C63's have 80% throttle lol. Hence a retune simply makes that 100% ;-) oops, did I say that out loud and remove the mystique?
My 507 is right hand drive so already has the ROW air box without the charcoal filters as OEM stock:
Stock 507 - baseline 432rwhp
Tuned 507 - 460rwhp
Add DPE hand finished and coated headers and cat delete then retune - 485rwhp
It may be possible to reach 500rw now by simply adding rest of exhaust upgrade, Renntech bigger airbox and throttle bodies - however the combined cost of all that would be better spent on Weistec heads that will add a lot more power.
My 507 is right hand drive so already has the ROW air box without the charcoal filters as OEM stock:
Stock 507 - baseline 432rwhp
Tuned 507 - 460rwhp
Add DPE hand finished and coated headers and cat delete then retune - 485rwhp
It may be possible to reach 500rw now by simply adding rest of exhaust upgrade, Renntech bigger airbox and throttle bodies - however the combined cost of all that would be better spent on Weistec heads that will add a lot more power.
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Definitely disagree. While you will not see the same gain on a 507 as you will on a base C63 you will still see a worthwhile gain. Base C63's have 80% throttle lol. Hence a retune simply makes that 100% ;-) oops, did I say that out loud and remove the mystique?
My 507 is right hand drive so already has the ROW air box without the charcoal filters as OEM stock:
Stock 507 - baseline 432rwhp
Tuned 507 - 460rwhp
Add DPE hand finished and coated headers and cat delete then retune - 485rwhp
It may be possible to reach 500rw now by simply adding rest of exhaust upgrade, Renntech bigger airbox and throttle bodies - however the combined cost of all that would be better spent on Weistec heads that will add a lot more power.
My 507 is right hand drive so already has the ROW air box without the charcoal filters as OEM stock:
Stock 507 - baseline 432rwhp
Tuned 507 - 460rwhp
Add DPE hand finished and coated headers and cat delete then retune - 485rwhp
It may be possible to reach 500rw now by simply adding rest of exhaust upgrade, Renntech bigger airbox and throttle bodies - however the combined cost of all that would be better spent on Weistec heads that will add a lot more power.
I have never seen a tune only C63 even on race gas put down 460rwhp unless the dyno was very optimistic and you were dynoing in 0F air.
Ported heads will gain you 8-12rwhp, this has been proven, with 70% or more of the gains coming from the valvejob. The factory heads are that good.
There are plenty of bolt-on C63s rocking 500rwhp without going into the motor. No offense but i find your posts to be quite misleading as to what's actually been proven to work vs your theories.
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Misleading?
Theories?
I just quoted actual real world data, how is that either misleading or theory?
My tuner is regarded as one of the best in my country, a tuner other tuners go to when they have problems. He built his own dynos, sold them to many other tuners. They are known to be conservative. I could lay down a misleading 500rwhp by going to a dynojet near me. I have done so in other cars and compared so if you want to test me I'll back it up. The 460rw for a tuned UK 507 is not optimistic, it is on the upper end of what they do, so I just have a good one.
re Heads real world results - seems to vary based on what else has been done... might be only 20hp on a stock motor, but that'd still be enough to get me 500rw.... but then on checking I see the MHP air intake system can make 30hp so if that was true would be a cheaper way to get there and much cheaper than Renntech. I see you have a carbon fibre air intake, headers and a tune and claim 501rwhp.... good for you, that just proved my point. Thank you.
Theories?
I just quoted actual real world data, how is that either misleading or theory?
My tuner is regarded as one of the best in my country, a tuner other tuners go to when they have problems. He built his own dynos, sold them to many other tuners. They are known to be conservative. I could lay down a misleading 500rwhp by going to a dynojet near me. I have done so in other cars and compared so if you want to test me I'll back it up. The 460rw for a tuned UK 507 is not optimistic, it is on the upper end of what they do, so I just have a good one.
re Heads real world results - seems to vary based on what else has been done... might be only 20hp on a stock motor, but that'd still be enough to get me 500rw.... but then on checking I see the MHP air intake system can make 30hp so if that was true would be a cheaper way to get there and much cheaper than Renntech. I see you have a carbon fibre air intake, headers and a tune and claim 501rwhp.... good for you, that just proved my point. Thank you.
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