Need part numbers for the SLS Black Series Buckets
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Need part numbers for the SLS Black Series Buckets
I need to confirm the part numbers on the SLS Back Series Buckets if anyone has it. Doing my head-bolts to be safe and changing the buckets at the same time...
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
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W204 C63 Coupe, W166 ML350 BlueTEC, 928GT, C5 Z06 & IS300 race cars, EQE 4Matic+ on order
From MB shop foreman: --->
Incidentally I got a response from AMG today regarding the lifters in your vehicle. They confirmed you have the SLS style buckets (which is what you want) and also confirmed that we cannot use the lifters from the Black Series engines in your engine.
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makes no since, i know several people using them. i got the part numbers yesterday. I'm almost sure that Weistec also uses these. you mind if i called you?
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The SLS Black Series buckets do NOT fit the C63. The regular SLS buckets do. Just had this confirmed by AMG Germany (see below).
From MB shop foreman: --->
Incidentally I got a response from AMG today regarding the lifters in your vehicle. They confirmed you have the SLS style buckets (which is what you want) and also confirmed that we cannot use the lifters from the Black Series engines in your engine.
From MB shop foreman: --->
Incidentally I got a response from AMG today regarding the lifters in your vehicle. They confirmed you have the SLS style buckets (which is what you want) and also confirmed that we cannot use the lifters from the Black Series engines in your engine.
OP you can buy them from weistec for 2k
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You can get them (32) for $1k from OEdiscountparts.com
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W204 C63 Coupe, W166 ML350 BlueTEC, 928GT, C5 Z06 & IS300 race cars, EQE 4Matic+ on order
Well, someone is obviously wrong - either Weistec or MB Germany. Will investigate. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Quite possible - except that that would be the AMG tech in Germany that answered the query. Will look into it (and knowing my tech, he'll definitley find the answer even if he has to rebuild a perectly healthy engine to try it out).
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its good to have a contact like this your a lucky man
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its been used in many applications with no issues, dimensions match up. they are coated and lighter...
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I have seen an answer from a vendor in Germany saying that in order to complete the purchase from a dealer of the SLS black series buckets, one has to produce evidence that they work on a black series with a vin number.
This can be counter intuitive and easily dismissed, except I've seen this before in the Subaru world when trying to purchase the limited S204 series parts. There was in the parts software in that case a note for the vendor to ID the car before the sale.
I'm hoping this is wrong however for the black series because I hope to go this route with my buckets too.
This can be counter intuitive and easily dismissed, except I've seen this before in the Subaru world when trying to purchase the limited S204 series parts. There was in the parts software in that case a note for the vendor to ID the car before the sale.
I'm hoping this is wrong however for the black series because I hope to go this route with my buckets too.
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I have seen an answer from a vendor in Germany saying that in order to complete the purchase from a dealer of the SLS black series buckets, one has to produce evidence that they work on a black series with a vin number.
This can be counter intuitive and easily dismissed, except I've seen this before in the Subaru world when trying to purchase the limited S204 series parts. There was in the parts software in that case a note for the vendor to ID the car before the sale.
I'm hoping this is wrong however for the black series because I hope to go this route with my buckets too.
This can be counter intuitive and easily dismissed, except I've seen this before in the Subaru world when trying to purchase the limited S204 series parts. There was in the parts software in that case a note for the vendor to ID the car before the sale.
I'm hoping this is wrong however for the black series because I hope to go this route with my buckets too.
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No VIN needed. I have 32 on the way. The dealership will always tell you they don’t fit. Buy your parts guy coffee maybe he’ll help you out.
I bought a single tappet and the micrometer says they’re the exact same dimensions. But, definitely not same when it comes to weight and innards.
Ask the dealer to put it in the system without a VIN assigned. Prices are supposed to go up, as per my parts guy.
As an aside, is there anybody on here with standalone BS tappets for upgrades and the expected gains (if any) when tuned?
I bought a single tappet and the micrometer says they’re the exact same dimensions. But, definitely not same when it comes to weight and innards.
Ask the dealer to put it in the system without a VIN assigned. Prices are supposed to go up, as per my parts guy.
As an aside, is there anybody on here with standalone BS tappets for upgrades and the expected gains (if any) when tuned?
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SLS BS tappets do not create any gains by themselves. You’d have to put in an entire SLS BS valvetrain to see any performance benefit, and nobody’s doing that or cares to measure the before/after.
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I searched a bit more and read the difference is about 500 rpms. Where in the BS it’ll handle 7750 vs 7250 in non-BS other than being much more robust and handling revs for days
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even when it shifts at 8000?
https://youtu.be/2jD8s4-iGuQ
https://youtu.be/2jD8s4-iGuQ
Wouldn’t be much point recon that high unless you are changing the camshafts to take advantage of it
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And valve springs, probably the valves themselves, camshafts, etc. Just because you have SLS BS lifters doesn’t mean your redline will be 8k. Nobody’s even been able to get the SLS camshaft tuning right. The M159 is very different.
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There are a few tuners that will raise the rev limiter and fuel cut off to 7500 for non p31 cars and to 7750 w the p31 optioned “when requested”. ‘Why do that?’ would be the question. My car is still stock and would be interesting to see how it’ll respond to a tune with a valvetrain overhaul using the tappets.
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Okaaayyyyyyy
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If you want to change your powerband you need parts that alter your VE, so the cams will do that, an intake manifold will do that etc...
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