CL55 AMG, CL65 AMG, CL63 AMG (C215, C216) 2000 - 2014 (Two Generations)

Speedriven V12 SS Downpipes/DIY Flanges

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 02-27-2014, 12:01 PM
  #51  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
shardul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,139
Received 293 Likes on 242 Posts
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
IDK with adding downpipes the hp numbers should go up everything else being constant. at least in my case they did .
Old 02-27-2014, 12:48 PM
  #52  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
kamilclk430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
W215 V12TT Build by Speedriven, W221 S550 4Matic
Originally Posted by V12TTenthusiast
If I wasn't there for those dyno pulls and got those dyno sheets I wouldn't believe it either but I had easy 7 runs from 630-636 back to back when OEM air boxes were pulled out when I had my 3 inch exhaust in. If you pull out the air box you can see it gets really narrow when it goes down from the filters to the turbo. I was thinking about trying to cut and mod my OEM air box so it would have a much bigger hole from filter to turbo.

Also with your TB did you upgrade from the 600 to 65 TB or get something special? I got a spare 65 TB I was thinking about boring out even if its 2-4 more mm I'm curious what gains ill get even if it's a little
I have the 600 TB are you sure there is a difference between the 600 vs the 65? when it comes to TB?
Old 02-27-2014, 12:50 PM
  #53  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
kamilclk430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
W215 V12TT Build by Speedriven, W221 S550 4Matic
Originally Posted by shardul
IDK with adding downpipes the hp numbers should go up everything else being constant. at least in my case they did .
agreed, there is no way for the numbers to fall adding more airflow even if its before the intake. Any given car will gain HP with a full exhaust even if the intake wont be touched, correct me if I'm wrong but when Exhaust companies tell you their HP gains on exhausts its usually off a stock car not one that has upgraded parts. The more airflow mods you have the more HP should come from the combo
Old 02-27-2014, 04:41 PM
  #54  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Speedriven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palatine, IL
Posts: 2,542
Received 72 Likes on 62 Posts
Speedriven
Originally Posted by kamilclk430
I have the 600 TB are you sure there is a difference between the 600 vs the 65? when it comes to TB?


Both the Tb and intake manifold are the same part number for 600 or 65
Old 02-27-2014, 05:12 PM
  #55  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
kamilclk430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
W215 V12TT Build by Speedriven, W221 S550 4Matic
^ Thanks
Old 02-27-2014, 08:42 PM
  #56  
Super Member
 
V12TTenthusiast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 930
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 21 Posts
06 SL65AMG, 13 Tesla Model S 60kwh, 02 Jaguar S-Type 3.0, 12 S550 4 Matic, 07 E320 Bluetec, 06 LX470
Idk if its difference in the size or not of the down pipe, most people that get down pipes for this car usually get it 2.75 and just do down pipes. From test runs with OEM air box it lost HP and with the cutouts open on my exhaust the car wasn't able to fish the runs on the dyno.

I'll get some dyno sheets when I head over tomorrow and post some OEM air box runs with cutouts open and closed. I know if you just tune and take the air box out theirs not gains based on the SL65 owners on the R230 forum. I'll either PM or txt Thericker about it too, since hes the only other person I know of, with 3 Inch down pipes, (Idk if it was the full exhaust or just down pipes) but he advised the OEM air boxes suck on the R230s with the little pipe doing into the turbo.

He was recommending making the OEM air box flow better by cutting the current pipe and make a much larger pipe in its place. I'm kinda curious to try it myself since the plastic construction of the air box should keep out heat. I'm also going to work on silicone piping too in a week or two and test heat soak of silicone piping next to the turbo which is right up against the engine vs aluminum pipe
Old 02-28-2014, 10:24 AM
  #57  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
iTrader: (1)
 
shardul's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,139
Received 293 Likes on 242 Posts
2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600
i got 3" downpipes
Old 02-28-2014, 02:25 PM
  #58  
Super Member
 
Ekselent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Finland
Posts: 883
Received 21 Likes on 17 Posts
SL600 / SL450 (107) / E350 / BMW M5 E60 / BMW 745i (E23) / BMW X6M / Toyota Hilux 4 WD/ Honda CBX 10
Originally Posted by Speedriven1
Both the Tb and intake manifold are the same part number for 600 or 65
I have send several e-mails regarding your down pipe setup and HE exchanger.
No answers-….. have I send it to wrong address?
Old 02-28-2014, 02:31 PM
  #59  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
kamilclk430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
W215 V12TT Build by Speedriven, W221 S550 4Matic
Originally Posted by Ekselent
I have send several e-mails regarding your down pipe setup and HE exchanger.
No answers-….. have I send it to wrong address?
TRY PM or call the shop 847-485-8126. If I talk to them today I will let them know you are trying to get a hold of them.
Old 02-28-2014, 03:05 PM
  #60  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Speedriven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palatine, IL
Posts: 2,542
Received 72 Likes on 62 Posts
Speedriven
Originally Posted by V12TTenthusiast
Idk if its difference in the size or not of the down pipe, most people that get down pipes for this car usually get it 2.75 and just do down pipes. From test runs with OEM air box it lost HP and with the cutouts open on my exhaust the car wasn't able to fish the runs on the dyno.

I'll get some dyno sheets when I head over tomorrow and post some OEM air box runs with cutouts open and closed. I know if you just tune and take the air box out theirs not gains based on the SL65 owners on the R230 forum. I'll either PM or txt Thericker about it too, since hes the only other person I know of, with 3 Inch down pipes, (Idk if it was the full exhaust or just down pipes) but he advised the OEM air boxes suck on the R230s with the little pipe doing into the turbo.

He was recommending making the OEM air box flow better by cutting the current pipe and make a much larger pipe in its place. I'm kinda curious to try it myself since the plastic construction of the air box should keep out heat. I'm also going to work on silicone piping too in a week or two and test heat soak of silicone piping next to the turbo which is right up against the engine vs aluminum pipe


All our downpipes are 3 inch.
Originally Posted by Ekselent
I have send several e-mails regarding your down pipe setup and HE exchanger.
No answers-….. have I send it to wrong address?

Check your pm
Old 02-28-2014, 03:14 PM
  #61  
Super Member
 
xabo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wash. D.C.
Posts: 892
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 31 Posts
'08 CL65
Originally Posted by Ekselent
I have send several e-mails regarding your down pipe setup and HE exchanger.
No answers-….. have I send it to wrong address?

Join the club!!!
Old 02-28-2014, 04:19 PM
  #62  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Speedriven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palatine, IL
Posts: 2,542
Received 72 Likes on 62 Posts
Speedriven
Originally Posted by xabo
Join the club!!!
Can you please verify what email you are sending from?
Old 02-28-2014, 04:26 PM
  #63  
Super Member
 
xabo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wash. D.C.
Posts: 892
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 31 Posts
'08 CL65
Originally Posted by Speedriven1
Can you please verify what email you are sending from?

Doesn't matter at this point.......................moving on
Old 02-28-2014, 07:25 PM
  #64  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Speedriven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palatine, IL
Posts: 2,542
Received 72 Likes on 62 Posts
Speedriven
Originally Posted by xabo
Doesn't matter at this point.......................moving on
I apologize for the inconvenience. We seemed to have some issues with emails going to the wrong folders. We have recently changed our services and its slowly getting worked out. Once again sorry for not being able to help you earlier.
Old 03-04-2014, 10:36 AM
  #65  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Speedriven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palatine, IL
Posts: 2,542
Received 72 Likes on 62 Posts
Speedriven
Updated pics
Old 03-04-2014, 04:27 PM
  #66  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
kamilclk430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
W215 V12TT Build by Speedriven, W221 S550 4Matic
Looks Good
Old 03-05-2014, 06:32 PM
  #67  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
RaceHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,179
Likes: 0
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
CL65
Mine were delivered today and they look awesome. I can't wait to get them on and go for a blast!! It may take a week or so to find the time to dig out the garage and move the car to a bigger garage to work on....I'm trying to be patient since everything here is covered in salt.
Old 03-05-2014, 10:50 PM
  #68  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
kamilclk430's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
W215 V12TT Build by Speedriven, W221 S550 4Matic
Originally Posted by RaceHorse
Mine were delivered today and they look awesome. I can't wait to get them on and go for a blast!! It may take a week or so to find the time to dig out the garage and move the car to a bigger garage to work on....I'm trying to be patient since everything here is covered in salt.
Congrats
Old 03-06-2014, 11:07 AM
  #69  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
V12Godspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South FL & NYC
Posts: 5,768
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Your worst nightmare...
Originally Posted by kamilclk430
Congrats
+1, car will sound and perform beastly.
Old 03-07-2014, 07:30 PM
  #70  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
RaceHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,179
Likes: 0
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
CL65
Originally Posted by kamilclk430
Congrats
Originally Posted by V12Godspeed
+1, car will sound and perform beastly.
Thanks guys, I'm looking foward to it. The car is going to feel like an animal regardless after not driving it for a few months. I'll just have to find a way to get use to a few extra horses. Like everyone else, working on a new intake set up is next.

Last edited by RaceHorse; 03-08-2014 at 12:58 PM.
Old 03-07-2014, 07:58 PM
  #71  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Speedriven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palatine, IL
Posts: 2,542
Received 72 Likes on 62 Posts
Speedriven
Originally Posted by RaceHorse
Thanks guys, I'm looking foward to it. The car is going to feel like an animal regardless after not driving it for a few months. I'll just have to find a way to get use to a few extra horses. Like everyone else, I'll be working on a new intake set up is next.
Post some pics when your done!
Old 03-07-2014, 09:56 PM
  #72  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
RaceHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,179
Likes: 0
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
CL65
Originally Posted by Speedriven1
Post some pics when your done!
I can do that. Is it common practice to replace the O2s with new since the pipes are off? The down pipes aren't welded in place but I don't know if its worth it to put old ones back and then risk having them fail soon after.
Old 03-08-2014, 01:56 PM
  #73  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Speedriven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palatine, IL
Posts: 2,542
Received 72 Likes on 62 Posts
Speedriven
Originally Posted by RaceHorse
I can do that. Is it common practice to replace the O2s with new since the pipes are off? The down pipes aren't welded in place but I don't know if its worth it to put old ones back and then risk having them fail soon after.


Generally there is no issues with using the original sensors. Once in a while you may run into where moving the wiring around while removal might cause a break in the wire and it will code up almost instantly. But 99 out of 100 times they swap over with no issue. Good practice to follow is to spray a bit of penetrating oil around threads a few minutes prior to removal. On higher mileage cars over time the threads sometimes seize up and sensor will not come out without damaging the threads.
Old 06-29-2015, 05:47 PM
  #74  
Member
 
kk100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 100
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
CL65
Hi, reviving an old thread!

Can you PM me a price on a setup complete for a 05 CL65 (including the adapters for stock exhaust etc) shipped to UK (postcode BT35 9ED).

Also what is the difference between cat less and the 200 cells cats - is one better than the other? Thanks
Thanks
Old 07-06-2015, 01:05 PM
  #75  
Member
 
kk100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 100
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
CL65
Are speed driven still in operation? I sent a pm and a email but still no reply??


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Speedriven V12 SS Downpipes/DIY Flanges



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:07 AM.