Benz Mike

Looking at doing a seat swap in my 09 E350 ( heated base leather ). Found seats out of an 09 E63 Which are heated and cooled. Is the wiring there to support the AMG seats in my non AMG car ? I know I would need the switch panel on the dash. Just curious if anyone knows whats involved to do this swap.

Thanks,
Mike

AMGAffalterbach

I'm pretty sure there is there is, but hold on a second. I'm just going to tell you this right now though: your money is better spent somewhere else. If your car is otherwise stock, if I were you, I would spend money on other modifications or upgrades because finding two matching AMG seats and having the install done will be really heavy on the wallet.

I'm not sure if you've experienced the ventilated seat feature, which my non-AMG 2007 E550 has, but it's nothing special. It's not something you even really notice intensely since it's just gentle airflow through the seat that can help on hot days but isn't super effective in actually cooling. I agree it's a nice feature to say you have and on longer road trips on hot days to have, but I wouldn't go through all the trouble to get it if I didn't have it. Low on the list of awesome things you can do with this car.

Benz Mike

I found a front and rear matching set for around $1000. I more or less want the nappa leather vs the leatheret that is stock

AMGAffalterbach

The rear AMG seats are fold down though, I'm not sure you can put them in a non-AMG... I mean maybe you can but I'm guessing it's not a direct swap.

Benz Mike

OK thats why I am making the thread. I am trying to find out what is involved with this swap. Even if the AC on the seats dont working I would be fine with it, I just want to know that they will wire up or be a plug and play swap. I am hoping someone who knows will chime in.

LemonSqueezy

Can't answer your question but +1 on stock ventilated seats being so-so. You're going to have to cut and install a bigger fan to have anything close to the cooling seats in some of the American cars. Also doesn't the AMG seats have active bolstering as well? Are you trying to get AMG seats just for the feel of the seat or for the extra features?

AMGAffalterbach

Yeah that's exactly it. They're more of a gentle airflow seat than an actual cooled seat. Active bolstering was in the pre-facelift but not the E63 I don't think, they are bolstered a lot more but it would be very low on my list honestly. I agree that real leather is better than the MBTex in the E350 but once again why not put that $1000 into headers or a tune or something.

Dan Wang

Having first hand experience in this, I will chime in.

I bought E63 seats to retrofit into my non-AMG CDI.



The issues I encountered.

1. I did not have folding rear seats, so the retrofit would include modifying the carpet, buying additional brackets and rear shelf and cutting out the metal plate. I ended up not doing the rear seats.
2. My front seats already had heated, so the swap was pretty simple. However, keep in mind that the new seats will throw a SRS light because the weight sensors built into the passenger seats needs to be calibrated. So be sure you have a SDS and 100kg of weight with you. There is a special MB tool for this but I just used a tool box and started filling it up until I got to the weight specified per SDS. One of the seat belt buckles were blown. When you get into an accident it fires off the buckle to cinch up the slack if any. So I had to replace one of the buckles from my old seat.
3. The front seats heat wiring is the same so its plug and play. The cooling ventilated / multicontour seats is a whole different can of worms. I have not done this yet, but you will need an new SAM unit, switch plate, wiring harness, air pump, air lines, insulation bits and pieces. Then remove the whole interior to run the airlines and the SDS to code.

So as it sits right now, my E63 seats in my E320 CDI have the heat working. Power functions continue to work. I love the additional bolster support, the nappa leather and the alcantara accents. I would do it again in a heartbeat. However, I am still on the fence for the ventilated and multicontour parts.

Benz Mike

COOL ! This is the information I was looking for. I could care less about the AC on the seats but as long as the power and heat works I'm good.

LemonSqueezy

Benz Mike if you get this working, remember to post pictures! Maybe even a DIY?? I'd love to see the progress and results.

giannis_33

did you finally manage to retrofit it??? i hae exactly the same questions to make it work

NSS1995

Hi I am trying to figure out the same thing but I have a facelift w211 and I am trying to put E55 AMG seats into it, the wiring and everything connects the same. The Heated and Ventilated seats work perfect but the seats don't move forward/back. I am not sure how to fix this, can anyone help?

giannis_33

First of all you have to check if your door module can support the panel for moving the seats... to check that you have to plug it and turn the lights on.. if the lights comes in the numbers your module is supporting it..if not you have to change it...after you have to connect the seat module with can b in your car and a wire from fuse box (30 and 40 place) to your seat.. your car must have 2wires in your main cable so you have to make it 3....

NSS1995

Hi thank you so much for the reply. I honestly am very confused right now still about that wiring, do I just modify the main big harness cable that goes into the module box under the seat or what? Do you have any diagram or pictures I can follow? Would really appreciate the great help, thank you

giannis_33

the big cable that goes to seat module all you need is 2 wires that are going to can b..the rest you don't need them unless you d like to retrofit also electric steering column..connecting to can b you car recognize the sygnal
to make it work you need D.C. That you have to take it from the fuse box so the small square cable to add from 2 wires 3.. that's it is not difficult I will try to find some pictures for you I don't have any diagram.. I quess you have already buy the panel with memory in your door right?
dis you install it?

NSS1995

My car is the facelift w211 e550. I tried the box that came pre installed under the E55 2003 w211 seats but they don't move. Yes please send me some pics, trying to really finish this project asap

giannis_33

You confused me... your basic cable how many wires do you have? 2or 3?

NSS1995

Hi I have attached the pics of the 2 cables, please check and advise on what to do.

Thank you so much again

giannis_33

the small cable has 2 wires....you have to take a wire from fuse box (place30 for drivers and 40 for passengers if I remember correctly that's it... do you have the panel with memory in your door?

giannis_33

giannis_33

Check that picture the wire that is missing is the red.. check the position and just give power.. let me know if you have the panel in your door

NSS1995

yes I have the door panel, but my big harness cable has several more wires compared to only 2 in yours. And the small one has 2, but I tried yesterday running a wire from 30amp driver fuse to the small cable and connecting in but seat still didn't move

NSS1995

That's the drivers door panel

giannis_33

This is passengers side... drivers side is the same for moving the seat..all the rest wires is for moving the steering column...when you open the lights, door panel buttons do they light??

NSS1995

yes the lights and everything turns on, just seat not move. How do I make that wire from fuse to small cable work? I tried doing that it didn't still work