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Old 01-06-2017, 10:54 AM
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the redesign is slated for '18 too, which is when I'll trade my S class towards either an Accord or a Pilot, which are also very nice for 2017
As we age we can lose the gusto and mojo. Priorities change, it become more important to surry over to The Olive Garden in ones practical ride, a badge of honor, becoming one with 50th percentile. I dig it, groovy. Regards. Ned.
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a couple years back, I was considering a 2014 accord EXLV6 which were a little over $30k at the time. I decided to shop used luxury in the low $30k's which led me to my 2011 E550 P2 4matic. More features and power (but the v6 was plenty for me) and less depreciation offset by higher maintenance and operating costs. Still think I made the right call.

When you can buy 2 accords new for one new e class the comparison is too much considering they both get the job done. But bring the price points closer and the comparison becomes more fair.
Ill buy an accord the day I dont live in snowlandia and I am retired. Good old person living on a fixed income car.
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Ill buy an accord the day I dont live in snowlandia and I am retired. Good old person living on a fixed income car.
It is a great car for budget minded folks. No disagreement from me. I just like driving a Mercedes Benz. Janis Joplin said it well.
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It is a great car for budget minded folks. No disagreement from me. I just like driving a Mercedes Benz. Janis Joplin said it well.

You do realize that what Joplin sang was not complimentary about material things, including an MB

BTW, S Class buyers think the E Class is a great car for budget minded folks. Bottom line is that an Accord is a rock solidly engineered car. Built to meet a price point.
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It is a great car for budget minded folks. No disagreement from me. I just like driving a Mercedes Benz. Janis Joplin said it well.
She died before she got one. Live for today. You can get an Accord when you're dead. Regards. Ned.
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She died before she got one. Live for today. You can get an Accord when you're dead. Regards. Ned.
Live for today (and for tomorrow if that is possible).

Janis Joplin drove a wild painted Porsche. She was not a Honda Accord gal.
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Live for today (and for tomorrow if that is possible).

Janis Joplin drove a wild painted Porsche. She was not a Honda Accord gal.
You can live for tomorrow. It's called debt. Regards. Ned.
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You can live for tomorrow. It's called debt. Regards. Ned.
i thought it was layaway
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Wow, did anyone here actually read the article? Value doesn't always mean what is cheaper.

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Originally Posted by ADD0514
I must respectfully disagree with this assessment. The Accord has always been praised for its ergonomics, ride, and build quality - By professional reviewers and consumers alike. They punch way above their price bracket and has been known for their driver oriented attitude. The Accord and the Odyssey have no problem remaining calm and composed at ~115MPH. Yes, I've driven them at that speed. My son's 2003 Accord has no squeak, rattle, or any problem when we gave it to a friend last summer. Sadly, it was totaled by a 17YO when he drag raced it.
Sure, Honda has no chance to reach the par sets by MB. But at half the price, the Accord is not cheaply built and goes toe-to-toe against the E300 for the values offered for each hard earned dollar you spend on them.
Since when has the Accord punched "way above" its weight? And against what?

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Since when has the Accord punched "way above" its weight? And against what?M
With all due respect, it's an opinion formed when the dealer gave me a CLA250 loaner car. The CLA is MB's foray into the $30K territory normally dominated by Camry and Accord. They are often mentioned together by the press. The CLA has pizzaz, style, and prestige. The harsh ride and lack of amenities left me cold. The Accord is a mundane, practical, and a better car for the same price. Don't take my word for it, check the mercedescla.org forum for yourself.
When all merits are accounted for, the Accord has been favorably assessed by Automobile Magazine, Motor Trend, Car and Driver, KBB, JD Powers, and has won the 10 Best award 30 times. How many other cars, regardless of price, can claim that record? I hope you'll find the description "punching above its weight" is apt in this case. You can also find other reviews where this accolade was given to the Accord as well.

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Hondas drive like a cheap appliance. Do not let cheapnis be your weakness.
Driven a modern Accord lately?
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I have own BMWs, Audi, VWs, Mercedes, as well as RR. In addition, I have owned many Honda products. My Hondas were some of the best built/ trouble free vehicles I have ever owned.
I've had BMW/Audi/MB and Hondas and I also agree that Hondas are some of the best built and trouble free cars I've owned.
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Last summer I rented a Honda Accord LX in Toronto. It was mis-classified as a full size car. It was under powered and handled poorly. The interior looked and felt cheap.
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Originally Posted by ADD0514
With all due respect, it's an opinion formed when the dealer gave me a CLA250 loaner car. The CLA is MB's foray into the $30K territory normally dominated by Camry and Accord. They are often mentioned together by the press. The CLA has pizzaz, style, and prestige. The harsh ride and lack of amenities left me cold. The Accord is a mundane, practical, and a better car for the same price. Don't take my word for it, check the mercedescla.org forum for yourself.
When all merits are accounted for, the Accord has been favorably assessed by Automobile Magazine, Motor Trend, Car and Driver, KBB, JD Powers, and has won the 10 Best award 30 times. How many other cars, regardless of price, can claim that record? I hope you'll find the description "punching above its weight" is apt in this case. You can also find other reviews where this accolade was given to the Accord as well.

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The only thing the CLA does better than an accord is handling, the accord is better in almost every dimension. The CLA is a coupe with four doors, the rear is virtually useless. A model for badgewhores only.
The CLA 45, on the other hand, is a different story.
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My parents have had a series of Accords. They routinely trade when they hit 200-225K miles; that's reliabilty in 3 straight Accords to well over 200K miles for them. No question what their next car will be.
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Originally Posted by ADD0514
With all due respect, it's an opinion formed when the dealer gave me a CLA250 loaner car. The CLA is MB's foray into the $30K territory normally dominated by Camry and Accord. They are often mentioned together by the press. The CLA has pizzaz, style, and prestige. The harsh ride and lack of amenities left me cold. The Accord is a mundane, practical, and a better car for the same price. Don't take my word for it, check the mercedescla.org forum for yourself.
When all merits are accounted for, the Accord has been favorably assessed by Automobile Magazine, Motor Trend, Car and Driver, KBB, JD Powers, and has won the 10 Best award 30 times. How many other cars, regardless of price, can claim that record? I hope you'll find the description "punching above its weight" is apt in this case. You can also find other reviews where this accolade was given to the Accord as well.

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For sheer driving pleasure my favorite was my first car - 1959 SL300.
I wish I still had it.
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Wow, did anyone here actually read the article? Value doesn't always mean what is cheaper.

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What? You expect us to read the article before pontificating about it? Heresy!


In actuality, I admire the Accord as my son survived a head on collision when an oncoming pickup lost control and crashed into the Accord he was driving. He escaped with a broken collarbone (after they used "jaws of life" to pry the car open) and his passenger had two broken tibias. The interior, however, did look rather poorly after the crash.

Whichever floats your boat; both Accords and E-Class have their pros and cons. So long as *you're* happy with your choice. Happy motoring.
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