Bacolod

Hello there. I am from the Philippines and I am planning to get an 02'
ML 270 CDI AMG. Just wanted to ask if there is such a model as most I
have seen online are ML 55 AMG in the USA.

Also if there is such a model, what is the difference from an ML 270
CDi aside from the Bumpers and Fender flares?

Is the Engine (270CDI), Tranny, or suspension AMG?


Thanks!


Francis

advans

Dude I doubt its an AMG, if its an AMG the decals would be... ML270CDI and the otherside would be AMG, and look for this...when you pop the HOOD, the engine coverings should be AMG....and the inside...the gauges should have chrome bezels and the gauge should be white, and should say AMG, The brake Calipers should say AMG the exhaust tips should say AMG, and most important of all... THE REGISTRATION SHOULD SAY! ML270CDI AMG lol

this car just looks like a ML320 with sport package and evolution but...get everything checked out before u buy, otherwise you gonna ger ripped off and spit up hell lota money!

elbimmer

This is not an AMG for sure.

Birger

Francis's ML is a European-specification ML270CDI (note the wider rear license plate recess - and it's a diesel!). From what I can see from the two photos, it has the U49 AMG Styling Package, which is only external (bumpers, sills, exhaust pipe) and which cost EUR 2800 before taxes in 2003.

Furthermore, this car has the 17" EVO II wheels, which you can normally not get on a 270 according to the price list, and judging from the headlamp washers it will aso have the Bi-Xenon headlights.

It looks nice, and if the price is right, I don't see why he shouldn't go ahead.

Birger

In Europe, the U49 has been an option from the very beginning of the W163's career - irrespective of engine size. And it's only external - nothing special inside to set it apart.

Militant-Grunt

Nothing on that car is AMG. Its just a sports package for the ML, that makes it look like an Ml55.

The difference between the ML 270cdi and an ML55?

179HP difference...

The ML55 has 342HP with 376 lb ft of torque
The ML270 has 163hp with 273 lb ft of torque
ML55 will run to 60 in 6.4 secs
while the ML270 will do it in 11.4

sorry ML55 pride here =D

Bacolod

Thanks for the reply guys! Here are the specs that the owner sent me. This was was an Indent order from Germany according to him.

2002 Benz ML270 Diesel AMG, Turbo Diesel CDI 4x4, 12tkms only, Orig. AMG version, Sportronic Matic Plus Minus, Xenon Lights, Glass Sunroof, Dual Aircon, All Power/Leather.

The price of cars here in the Philippines are very expensive. This one would cost around US$45,000. Brand new more than double.

advans

might as well just find a ML320 and add stuff on urself...270CDI is not worth it....diesel engines tend to not last as long as gas powered

Birger

Hi,

Just out of curiosity: How are the gas/diesel prices in the Philippines?

If the ML really has that few kms, it might be a bargain - again taking into consideration that cars are expensive in the Philippines.

Birger

PS: The remark about diesel engines lasting less than gas ones is - sorry to put it rudely - RUBBISH!

Bacolod

The 12,000 kms. is correct. The ML it pretty new. Diesel here is about US$0.53 per liter. Gas is a bit higher at US$0.58 cents.

Diesels are more efficient for daily driving though - that's why I'm considering one. All my MBs (1978 300D-W123, 1985 300D-W124 and now W202 C220-Diesel) have been diesels and they have all been great!

Militant-Grunt

45,000$ !?!?!?!?! Jesus, you can get a nearly new ML500 for that or a Very good condition, low mileage 2002/2003 ML55.

You sure its worth throwing all that money? Wouldnt it be cheaper to buy in the US and import?

Bacolod

Taxes here are mo than 100%. That's why prices are very expensive. We just have to live with it.

A brand new 2005 E240 here cost US$86,000.00.

Birger

Bacolod,

on second thoughts I would be a little wary of a German-origin diesel vehicle from 2001/2002 (it's MY 2002, I suppose) with only 12,000 kms. It's really a ridiculously low kilometrage, especially for Germany and diesels.

But I have to admit they exist - there are 14 ML270CDI's from 2002 with less than 25,000 kms on www.autoscout24.de, one of the most important online search engines for used cars here.

Cheers,
Birger

jpa712001

this car is very cheap if you are a politician in the phils.

advans

I agree, my uncle has a ML500 in HongKong and it cost 2.5x mine, with similar packages. My ML500 cost me 58,000 USD, his is 140,000 HKD...and besides a CDI costs more....if you compare the E320 sedan, and the E320cdi sedan...theres a difference so i guess the 270Cdi is close enufff.....

but I advise you to buy Diesel instead of Gasoline powered...because in asia as I remmebered, diesel is more popular

slimbenzCdi

I have had the privilege of driving both 270 Cdi and 270 Cdi amg. diesel Engines pull like trains yet light on your pocket. the amg version I drove is a British import I had to supply a friend in Zimbabwe and trust me, its not just a decal, badge and flared fenders. that car really has the same suspension as the ML 55 AMG, engine refinement is really different from the normal ML270CDi. 4 years now and am still smiling. next car ML320Cdi 4matic

art_arev

There is ONLY 1 W163 AMG ML!!!! ML55 AMG. Any other "AMG" ML's don't exist. Adding a badge a bumper or wheels doesn't make any ML a AMG.

Slim, how can a ML270 have the same suspension as an ML55? Even ML500, which is the closest cousin to ML55 hasn't got the same suspension.