Retrofiting Nightvision on my ML
05-14-2013, 11:32 AM
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Retrofiting Nightvision on my ML
I decided to add night vision to my ML, I am using a Raytheon L3 Thermal Imaging Camera which I sourced from a caddilac deville. For video source I used video aux. input along with a video in motion unit( you can enable a aux. video input in engineering mode which will allow you to connect a fakra/rca plug to the back of command NTG 4.5).
Yesterday I finally did my first driving bench test where the camera was connected to the oem command display via video aux. input and my friend was sticking out the Raytheon out of the sunroof. I gotta admit this is some amazing stuff! You can see people at least 3 times further than the headlights, making this camera really awesome!
There is one big drawback to adding night vision on the w166- the position of the oem screen, if you decide to add nightvision as an option on MY14 honestly its pretty much useless on the OEM display, i spent about 30 minutes driving around with it and every-time you have to take your eyes of the road in order to look at the night vision . I can pretty much retrofit this system in less than a day on my ML, there is plenty of space in the front bumper and routing the wires is pretty simple. But the OEM display location bothers me now, I have an idea of using a motorised display found in a mid 2000 volvo XC90 and installing it in the dash center speaker location, which will be perfect viewing position while driving- still looking into this. If anyone has any display ideas, please share!
From the picture you will notice I am missing the front protective lens, this is also a small hold up on my project right now as i have to source a germanium lens, since regular glass or plastic reflects thermal back in the camera. The camera works fine without the lens, but I am risking destroying the main lens which is $$$. I ll try to make a video in the next couple of days driving around with the camera.
Yesterday I finally did my first driving bench test where the camera was connected to the oem command display via video aux. input and my friend was sticking out the Raytheon out of the sunroof. I gotta admit this is some amazing stuff! You can see people at least 3 times further than the headlights, making this camera really awesome!
There is one big drawback to adding night vision on the w166- the position of the oem screen, if you decide to add nightvision as an option on MY14 honestly its pretty much useless on the OEM display, i spent about 30 minutes driving around with it and every-time you have to take your eyes of the road in order to look at the night vision . I can pretty much retrofit this system in less than a day on my ML, there is plenty of space in the front bumper and routing the wires is pretty simple. But the OEM display location bothers me now, I have an idea of using a motorised display found in a mid 2000 volvo XC90 and installing it in the dash center speaker location, which will be perfect viewing position while driving- still looking into this. If anyone has any display ideas, please share!
From the picture you will notice I am missing the front protective lens, this is also a small hold up on my project right now as i have to source a germanium lens, since regular glass or plastic reflects thermal back in the camera. The camera works fine without the lens, but I am risking destroying the main lens which is $$$. I ll try to make a video in the next couple of days driving around with the camera.
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05-14-2013, 04:29 PM
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I decided to add night vision to my ML, I am using a Raytheon L3 Thermal Imaging Camera which I sourced from a caddilac deville. For video source I used video aux. input along with a video in motion unit( you can enable a aux. video input in engineering mode which will allow you to connect a fakra/rca plug to the back of command NTG 4.5).
Yesterday I finally did my first driving bench test where the camera was connected to the oem command display via video aux. input and my friend was sticking out the Raytheon out of the sunroof. I gotta admit this is some amazing stuff! You can see people at least 3 times further than the headlights, making this camera really awesome!
There is one big drawback to adding night vision on the w166- the position of the oem screen, if you decide to add nightvision as an option on MY14 honestly its pretty much useless on the OEM display, i spent about 30 minutes driving around with it and every-time you have to take your eyes of the road in order to look at the night vision . I can pretty much retrofit this system in less than a day on my ML, there is plenty of space in the front bumper and routing the wires is pretty simple. But the OEM display location bothers me now, I have an idea of using a motorised display found in a mid 2000 volvo XC90 and installing it in the dash center speaker location, which will be perfect viewing position while driving- still looking into this. If anyone has any display ideas, please share!
From the picture you will notice I am missing the front protective lens, this is also a small hold up on my project right now as i have to source a germanium lens, since regular glass or plastic reflects thermal back in the camera. The camera works fine without the lens, but I am risking destroying the main lens which is $$$. I ll try to make a video in the next couple of days driving around with the camera.
Yesterday I finally did my first driving bench test where the camera was connected to the oem command display via video aux. input and my friend was sticking out the Raytheon out of the sunroof. I gotta admit this is some amazing stuff! You can see people at least 3 times further than the headlights, making this camera really awesome!
There is one big drawback to adding night vision on the w166- the position of the oem screen, if you decide to add nightvision as an option on MY14 honestly its pretty much useless on the OEM display, i spent about 30 minutes driving around with it and every-time you have to take your eyes of the road in order to look at the night vision . I can pretty much retrofit this system in less than a day on my ML, there is plenty of space in the front bumper and routing the wires is pretty simple. But the OEM display location bothers me now, I have an idea of using a motorised display found in a mid 2000 volvo XC90 and installing it in the dash center speaker location, which will be perfect viewing position while driving- still looking into this. If anyone has any display ideas, please share!
From the picture you will notice I am missing the front protective lens, this is also a small hold up on my project right now as i have to source a germanium lens, since regular glass or plastic reflects thermal back in the camera. The camera works fine without the lens, but I am risking destroying the main lens which is $$$. I ll try to make a video in the next couple of days driving around with the camera.
Can you post a picture image?
05-14-2013, 09:41 PM
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Very interesting and creative project.
I'll be curious to see your pictures, once you complete the install.
I agree with the location issue. Having to turn my head to look at the Comand screen seemed like a distraction. It would be a lot better if it were displayed on the dash, say in place of the speedo/tach (that would require an LCD dash, though). Ultimately, I think the best solution is a heads up display on the windshield.
A couple of questions:
1. Did you look at other sensor/camera options? (I'm thinking that MB must use some mass produced sensor, since the option is about $1600, so I'm wondering if there is a $300-$400 sensor out there)
2. Do you think or know if there is existing sensor wiring, even on the cars that do not include the option?
I'll be curious to see your pictures, once you complete the install.
I agree with the location issue. Having to turn my head to look at the Comand screen seemed like a distraction. It would be a lot better if it were displayed on the dash, say in place of the speedo/tach (that would require an LCD dash, though). Ultimately, I think the best solution is a heads up display on the windshield.
A couple of questions:
1. Did you look at other sensor/camera options? (I'm thinking that MB must use some mass produced sensor, since the option is about $1600, so I'm wondering if there is a $300-$400 sensor out there)
2. Do you think or know if there is existing sensor wiring, even on the cars that do not include the option?
05-15-2013, 08:48 AM
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Very interesting and creative project.
I'll be curious to see your pictures, once you complete the install.
I agree with the location issue. Having to turn my head to look at the Comand screen seemed like a distraction. It would be a lot better if it were displayed on the dash, say in place of the speedo/tach (that would require an LCD dash, though). Ultimately, I think the best solution is a heads up display on the windshield.
A couple of questions:
1. Did you look at other sensor/camera options? (I'm thinking that MB must use some mass produced sensor, since the option is about $1600, so I'm wondering if there is a $300-$400 sensor out there)
2. Do you think or know if there is existing sensor wiring, even on the cars that do not include the option?
I'll be curious to see your pictures, once you complete the install.
I agree with the location issue. Having to turn my head to look at the Comand screen seemed like a distraction. It would be a lot better if it were displayed on the dash, say in place of the speedo/tach (that would require an LCD dash, though). Ultimately, I think the best solution is a heads up display on the windshield.
A couple of questions:
1. Did you look at other sensor/camera options? (I'm thinking that MB must use some mass produced sensor, since the option is about $1600, so I'm wondering if there is a $300-$400 sensor out there)
2. Do you think or know if there is existing sensor wiring, even on the cars that do not include the option?
About the wiring- its a camera so it wires like one! my unit has a 4 pin plug-which is low & high signal(which i wired to yellow video plug), power and ground.There is also another 2 pin plug(power & ground) for germanium lens heater. Its basically same as installing a back up camera .
05-17-2013, 03:09 PM
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Youtube link, i was taking the video with a phone-you cant see as much details, in real life there is a lot more detail when you look at the display..
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05-17-2013, 05:06 PM
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Youtube link, i was taking the video with a phone-you cant see as much details, in real life there is a lot more detail when you look at the display..
http://youtu.be/Ncr2ux9PKHQ
http://youtu.be/Ncr2ux9PKHQ
Nice works and thanks for the posting!
Just wondering, how the COMAND will work after you added the new camera?
Are you able to "toggle" both cameras?
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05-22-2013, 11:44 AM
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1-Nightvision
I was not able to activate OEM Nightvision from engineering menu, after playing around with the engineering menu for ever was not able to use this video input.
2-Rear camera
Was able to activate it via engineering menu and add a backup camera
3-Video aux
Also was able to activate via engineering menu,basically adds an aux video on the command screen under the dvd tab- i am currently using it for apple mirrowing device which basically sends sound and video from my iphone to the command. I use it for google maps,ipod, trapster, waze, youtube etc. Thats the video input I used to test the nightvision. I had to buy a VIM to make it work while driving.
Very usefull for me since i dont have P1 package.
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Ml 250 w166
Hello i am kari from finland and i planing purchase flir pathfindir 2, is it possible integrate To mb ml w166 oem screen. All guidelines are wellcome. I do not understand eletronics and my english is not good.
