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Old 06-29-2005, 02:52 AM
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M5 faster than SRT10 Viper

OK so there are many people waiting for the M5 to hit US strips. Quite hard to predict what the M5 will hit based on Euro tests. They always test will full tank, passenger, etc. Added to that their test venues are normally airfields which are unprepped & have poor traction. But the M5 appears to be faster than the E55 if the cars are tested at the same place. But here's some more revealing info, M5 is faster than new SRT10 Viper to 100mph & back down to 0:



Now, just so the armchair experts can predict perfromance on US shores, here's MotorTrend's test of the SRT10:

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...gt/index5.html

1/4 mile in 11.77 @ 123.63.

To prove that its not a once off, here's 2 tests of 2 different SRT10's against 2 different M6's (M6 is mechanically the same as the M5 ut weighs 98lbs less).







And here's the M5 again against a Ferrari 575:



So I have said this before, but I predict the US mags will get the M5 in the 11.8-11.9 on the 1/4 stock standard running pump fuel with no prep. Trap I predict will be 121.

But hey, what do I know?
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I dont think they will get lower then 12's...
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low 12s and high 11s are very reasonable times for the M5/M6
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High 11's maybe M6, not M5...
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True, conditions on the day will dictate the time. Maybe 12.0 if the conditions aren't ideal.

Interesting that 0-124mph the M6 does 12.8-13.1 which is what the 65 series AMG's are doing.
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If you look at the first bar graph...The M5 is slower to a 100, but is much quicker to stop back to 0...Almost 1/2 a second slower to 0.

The Viper is a very difficult car to bring to a stop. The car is very front heavy, and puts a lot of weight over the front axle.

But that's a good effort by the M5...The times are looking good, and I'm sure will even get better...4.69 to 60 is one of the slower times I've seen for the car.
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Cool Yes, the Viper is faster than the M5 both to 60 and 100.

Originally Posted by onesixeight
If you look at the first bar graph...The M5 is slower to a 100, but is much quicker to stop back to 0...Almost 1/2 a second slower to 0.

The Viper is a very difficult car to bring to a stop. The car is very front heavy, and puts a lot of weight over the front axle.

But that's a good effort by the M5...The times are looking good, and I'm sure will even get better...4.69 to 60 is one of the slower times I've seen for the car.
Yes, the Viper is faster than the M5 both to 60 and 100.

The title is rather misleading.
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Yawn.........
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Yawn.........
Next teaser...THE SPACE SHUTTLE FASTER THAN M5!!!!

M&M...you have way too much time on your hands. You got me...the M5 is faster than my E55...so friggin what...At least I get to enjoy driving my car NOW and by the time the M5 gets to Florida, the newest iteration of the AMG E is around the corner.

This pissing contest using mag statistics is getting boring...
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Yeah DRCrowder it is kinda' boring when someone presents the facts instead of blabbering "Hell that car's slow, I beta that time at my local strip."

ANd I like how you guys sidestech SPort AUto & Auto Bild that got got the M6 faster than the Viper. The AUtocar test did get the Viper 1 tenth faster to 100mph. But the gearing f the M5 will make it faster after 100. Point is they should run similar 1/4 mile times.
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Originally Posted by AMGfan
Next teaser...THE SPACE SHUTTLE FASTER THAN M5!!!!

M&M...you have way too much time on your hands. You got me...the M5 is faster than my E55...so friggin what...At least I get to enjoy driving my car NOW and by the time the M5 gets to Florida, the newest iteration of the AMG E is around the corner.

This pissing contest using mag statistics is getting boring...

I couldn't agree more...Thank you Fan.
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Originally Posted by W210
Yes, the Viper is faster than the M5 both to 60 and 100.

The title is rather misleading.
The only reason the Viper beats the M5 to 60 and 100 is because of the tires. The Viper is .3 sec quicker to 30, after that, the M5 walks away. For some reason the stock M5 comes with Conti SportContact tires that aren't very sticky. The M6 with Pirelli Pzeros ran much better times. With better tires, or from a roll, I would expect the M5 times to be very close to the M6 times - it's only 98 lbs heavier.
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BMW wouldn't be stupid enough to make an M5 that is slower than the E55

The E55 is at least 2 years older than the M5
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I'll take the Galardo over the M5 and Viper thanks :p
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Jesus, what a freakin' troll. How pathetic...

The M5 will be a great car when it gets here, I think we all can agree to that. I'm excited to see the M5 in action here in the US. Who doesn't love competition? It only makes for better cars...
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I'll take the Galardo over the M5 and Viper thanks :p
I'd take an M5 & Viper instead of a Gallardo, thanks!
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Originally Posted by MBAMGPWR
I'd take an M5 & Viper instead of a Gallardo, thanks!
no problems, whatever floats your boat
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Thanks for the information. I often wonder what goes through the minds of people that sit around waiting to post stuff on "other" boards that can only be intended to try to **** people off. Not that this pisses me off at all. I've already spoken my piece about what I think about magazine times. I mean, if we sat around waiting to post on M5Board every time an M5 blows up in some embarrasing way (the Ring Taxi, Jeremy Clarkson, and other owners), I guess at least the post would relate to the car that the Board was created for in the first instance.

M&M, when you get your M5 (you are number 2 on the list, right??), post your timeslip. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by DRCrowder
Yawn.........
DITTO!
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Originally Posted by M&M
Yeah DRCrowder it is kinda' boring when someone presents the facts instead of blabbering "Hell that car's slow, I beta that time at my local strip."

ANd I like how you guys sidestech SPort AUto & Auto Bild that got got the M6 faster than the Viper. The AUtocar test did get the Viper 1 tenth faster to 100mph. But the gearing f the M5 will make it faster after 100. Point is they should run similar 1/4 mile times.
DUDE, are you so pathetic that you have so much time on your hands that you watch other forums, do you own a benz? go back to what ever rock you crawled out from.
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Originally Posted by M&M
Yeah DRCrowder it is kinda' boring when someone presents the facts instead of blabbering "Hell that car's slow, I beta that time at my local strip."

ANd I like how you guys sidestech SPort AUto & Auto Bild that got got the M6 faster than the Viper. The AUtocar test did get the Viper 1 tenth faster to 100mph. But the gearing f the M5 will make it faster after 100. Point is they should run similar 1/4 mile times.

Dude, do a search on your posts, you are only ever an antagonist and it bores me. I just talked to a guy yesterday about buying my E55 when I get my M6 (first on list @ Don Rosen[now mainline] in bala cynwyd PA) so I'm on board with they are great cars.

You, however, bore me......

PS don’t give me this “I’m just sharing information that I expect car enthusiasts would appreciate crap”. You are a petty antagonist that truly needs a hobby or even a good woman (or man?).

PPS Reply all you like, I’m done with you and this thread
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Originally Posted by DRCrowder
Dude, do a search on your posts, you are only ever an antagonist and it bores me. I just talked to a guy yesterday about buying my E55 when I get my M6 (first on list @ Don Rosen[now mainline] in bala cynwyd PA) so I'm on board with they are great cars.

You, however, bore me......

PS don’t give me this “I’m just sharing information that I expect car enthusiasts would appreciate crap”. You are a petty antagonist that truly needs a hobby or even a good woman (or man?).

PPS Reply all you like, I’m done with you and this thread
Dr. C...what color combo are you getting? The M6 should be a great ride!
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I don't know why everyone's getting their panties in a knot. I bet if the info was that the M5 is slow, everyone would be high-fiving. The reason I posted is someone posted the Australian test & everyone jumps & up & down & says the M5 is slow. WTF?

I thought you guys would be interested in info on an upcoming competitor. But if you want to keep patting each other on the back, then go ahead.
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Originally Posted by M&M
I don't know why everyone's getting their panties in a knot. I bet if the info was that the M5 is slow, everyone would be high-fiving. The reason I posted is someone posted the Australian test & everyone jumps & up & down & says the M5 is slow. WTF?

I thought you guys would be interested in info on an upcoming competitor. But if you want to keep patting each other on the back, then go ahead.
Bro...it's just you sound like a broken record and your agenda shows. And if you don't have an agenda, then you are a person that has to be right all the time. Give it a rest...enough said on this thread from me. Closed.
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Originally Posted by M&M
I don't know why everyone's getting their panties in a knot. I bet if the info was that the M5 is slow, everyone would be high-fiving. The reason I posted is someone posted the Australian test & everyone jumps & up & down & says the M5 is slow. WTF?
I thought you guys would be interested in info on an upcoming competitor. But if you want to keep patting each other on the back, then go ahead.
We all know what the competition is, do you see us posting in bimmerforums about forthcoming AMGs? You're just pathetic

go check out the C32/55 section, there is a nice videobut I am guessing you prob would have seen it already but I just wanted to make sure you troll in the right forums


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