Any M5's Ready To Play Yet?
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It's so wrong to live my life through you.....but from Lance pics to worlds fastest AMG, to one of the first to get an M5, you are just the F'in man. 
Gotta go, wife wants me to mop the kitchen...mother *()&^(*&(*&(!!!!
Gotta go, wife wants me to mop the kitchen...mother *()&^(*&(*&(!!!!
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Having been a BMW engineer (my division created these seals 4 years ago), I think I'm covered. Not really, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Select last night.
No really, I do appreciate the advice. Please ignore any timeslips and all videos posted Sunday night.
No really, I do appreciate the advice. Please ignore any timeslips and all videos posted Sunday night.
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drive em like you stole em
Long break ins was a big deal maybe 20/30 years ago when technologically manufacturers did not have todays more consistent metal alloys and they did not have the computer programs to exactly measure tolerances of all moving parts like they have today. In addition the cpu's in todays cars have red lines well within bounds of the engines running consistent reliability.
AMG driving schools at the tracks take brand new never driven vehicles out of the trailers and "drive them like they stole em" for two or three days at a time without problems all the time and I'm sure BMW does the same kind of programs.
AMG driving schools at the tracks take brand new never driven vehicles out of the trailers and "drive them like they stole em" for two or three days at a time without problems all the time and I'm sure BMW does the same kind of programs.
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Originally Posted by AMGE
Long break ins was a big deal maybe 20/30 years ago when technologically manufacturers did not have todays more consistent metal alloys and they did not have the computer programs to exactly measure tolerances of all moving parts like they have today. In addition the cpu's in todays cars have red lines well within bounds of the engines running consistent reliability.
AMG driving schools at the tracks take brand new never driven vehicles out of the trailers and "drive them like they stole em" for two or three days at a time without problems all the time and I'm sure BMW does the same kind of programs.
AMG driving schools at the tracks take brand new never driven vehicles out of the trailers and "drive them like they stole em" for two or three days at a time without problems all the time and I'm sure BMW does the same kind of programs.
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Breaking in engines is indeed controversial - I happen to think this guy is onto something:
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Running with the Ferrari Club on Friday and Saturday. Dragging at the Test & Tune on Sunday from 10:30AM-3PM.
I'M IN!
I'M IN!
The inlaws will be in town until Saturday afternoon, so Roebling is out.
But, I will drive down Sunday morning and meet you in Cecil at South Georgia Motorsports Park. I have also shot a few PMs and e-mails out to see if a few others will join us
Gotta charge the batteries for my camera. Looking forward to it
***EDIT***
We will also be having an '06 SLK55 joining us :v
Last edited by Chappy; Oct 27, 2005 at 01:09 PM.
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
They can't bash the Noble too much sitting next to a M5 and an E55. I guess they can snip all they want in my rear view mirror.
Derek, if you want really good times, ditch the Conti tires. The Pirelli Pzero Corsa's that are on the M6 are probably the best. For street tires, use the Michelin PS2's. I put a set of the Michelins on my M5 and they are terrific. The Conti's just don't have the traction, and you won't get anywhere near the best launch.
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When we hit the track, a stock E55 with Conti's was getting sub 1.9 on his 60' times. The PS2's were about equal.
I never liked the PS2's because they tremble the car on every car I've owned.
I never liked the PS2's because they tremble the car on every car I've owned.
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Originally Posted by wolverine
Derek, if you want really good times, ditch the Conti tires. The Pirelli Pzero Corsa's that are on the M6 are probably the best. For street tires, use the Michelin PS2's. I put a set of the Michelins on my M5 and they are terrific. The Conti's just don't have the traction, and you won't get anywhere near the best launch.
And for everyone else that objects to Derek's doings to his vehicle-don't you think he that he is where he is because of what he's been doing. I think he knows all the ins and outs and is aware of all the wooos. Let's sit back and soon to enjoy the nice vids he's about to offer and be thankful we get to see first hand of the vids he's producing for us to share.
Have a good one Derek and I know you'll make the most of your M and make the enjoyable.
-waiting on vids.-
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Sure...... I'll just drive it softly for the first 10,000-50,000 miles. Gimme a break. I was drivin' the E like I stole it after 400 miles and it's performance hasn't seemed to suffer.
when i asked my bmw service guy if i could drive the car hard since i passed the 1,500 mile mark on the M3 he said "their really isnt a break in period they are pre broken in at the factory, the break in rules mainly apply to manual cars so their clutch wear patters break in properly. he also said their was really no way to make anyone follow it and they cant void your warranty for not following their advice.
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Originally Posted by DerekFSU
Mine is being delivered to me at noon in Savannah. I'll be there with the Noble running at Roebling Rd. I am then doing a drag race on Sunday. My dealer is driving it down from New York so the break-in period will be complete, almost to the mile, when I arrive at the dragstrip.
Stay tuned for videos and timeslips (Yes, the E will be there as well). Let the games begin.
Stay tuned for videos and timeslips (Yes, the E will be there as well). Let the games begin.
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Originally Posted by e55 baller
I bet the M5 is going to trap stock at 120mph, just a guess.
The M5 trapped at 192.5km/h (about 120mph)
The CLS 55 at 189.2km/h.
Very little difference.
They used launch control in the M5 and had repeated clutch over heating - it took 45mins for them to do 4 runs. The CLS55 did them 1,2,3,4 bang, bang, bang.
In p400 mode in the M5 its 0-62mph time is 6 seconds.
They also point out that the CLS55 could catch the M5 if it was off the boil.
Its a good read.
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Originally Posted by OzE55
In November. Motor magazine (Australia).
The M5 trapped at 192.5km/h (about 120mph)
The CLS 55 at 189.2km/h.
Very little difference.
They used launch control in the M5 and had repeated clutch over heating - it took 45mins for them to do 4 runs. The CLS55 did them 1,2,3,4 bang, bang, bang.
In p400 mode in the M5 its 0-62mph time is 6 seconds.
They also point out that the CLS55 could catch the M5 if it was off the boil.
Its a good read.
The M5 trapped at 192.5km/h (about 120mph)
The CLS 55 at 189.2km/h.
Very little difference.
They used launch control in the M5 and had repeated clutch over heating - it took 45mins for them to do 4 runs. The CLS55 did them 1,2,3,4 bang, bang, bang.
In p400 mode in the M5 its 0-62mph time is 6 seconds.
They also point out that the CLS55 could catch the M5 if it was off the boil.
Its a good read.
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Directions:
1. Take I-75 (From either the North or South) and get off on exit 32.
2. From the Exit 32, go East on Old Coffee Road for .3 miles and then go North on Highway 41 for 1.1 miles to SGMP.
1. Take I-75 (From either the North or South) and get off on exit 32.
2. From the Exit 32, go East on Old Coffee Road for .3 miles and then go North on Highway 41 for 1.1 miles to SGMP.
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[QUOTE=houston]Not to ruin a party but do you really think that a guy that runs 11.13 @ 128.9 mph and considered North America's fastest AMG really run on conti's?
And for everyone else that objects to Derek's doings to his vehicle-don't you think he that he is where he is because of what he's been doing. I think he knows all the ins and outs and is aware of all the wooos.QUOTE]
Everybody can use a little help, especially with a car like the M5. The M5 is a different beast.
The M5 Contis have a very high load rating, 710 kg front, 775 kg rear, there are only two decent tires that fit specs for the stock wheels other than the Contis, that's the Pirelli Corsas and the Michelin PS2's. The M6 comes with the Corsas. The M5 cut almost 10 seconds off it's 'ring time with the Corsas over the Contis. If you want the Michelins in 19" size, you'll have to order them from Europe. Not available in the US. They definitely have better dry and wet traction than the Contis. The OEM 19" rims are fairly heavy, I went with lighter 20" rims, and the Michelin PS2's are available in that size in the US. I'd definitely go with the Corsas for best track performance though.
And for everyone else that objects to Derek's doings to his vehicle-don't you think he that he is where he is because of what he's been doing. I think he knows all the ins and outs and is aware of all the wooos.QUOTE]
Everybody can use a little help, especially with a car like the M5. The M5 is a different beast.
The M5 Contis have a very high load rating, 710 kg front, 775 kg rear, there are only two decent tires that fit specs for the stock wheels other than the Contis, that's the Pirelli Corsas and the Michelin PS2's. The M6 comes with the Corsas. The M5 cut almost 10 seconds off it's 'ring time with the Corsas over the Contis. If you want the Michelins in 19" size, you'll have to order them from Europe. Not available in the US. They definitely have better dry and wet traction than the Contis. The OEM 19" rims are fairly heavy, I went with lighter 20" rims, and the Michelin PS2's are available in that size in the US. I'd definitely go with the Corsas for best track performance though.
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Originally Posted by OzE55
In November. Motor magazine (Australia).
The M5 trapped at 192.5km/h (about 120mph)
The CLS 55 at 189.2km/h.
Very little difference.
They used launch control in the M5 and had repeated clutch over heating - it took 45mins for them to do 4 runs. The CLS55 did them 1,2,3,4 bang, bang, bang.
In p400 mode in the M5 its 0-62mph time is 6 seconds.
They also point out that the CLS55 could catch the M5 if it was off the boil.
Its a good read.
The M5 trapped at 192.5km/h (about 120mph)
The CLS 55 at 189.2km/h.
Very little difference.
They used launch control in the M5 and had repeated clutch over heating - it took 45mins for them to do 4 runs. The CLS55 did them 1,2,3,4 bang, bang, bang.
In p400 mode in the M5 its 0-62mph time is 6 seconds.
They also point out that the CLS55 could catch the M5 if it was off the boil.
Its a good read.
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Car arrives tomorrow at noon, sorry for not being more clear.
Chappy and Amen, come on down. We have the track privately for the first few hours to ourselves which included Sonny's BBQ. Our group is Tallahassee Musclecar and if you want to get in before 1PM on Sunday, tell me how many tickets you need and I'll take care of it. Without a ticket, you can't get in until later.
Thanks for the tips Wolverine. I run 16" MT Street Radials on CCW wheels for the E55 at the track. I have gone through 4 sets of PS2's for the E on the street in the last 13 months and just put on the Pirelli PZero Corsas. The Noble is on PS2's in order to get ready for the One Lap of America which requires street tires with a tread rating of 140 or higher.
Chappy and Amen, come on down. We have the track privately for the first few hours to ourselves which included Sonny's BBQ. Our group is Tallahassee Musclecar and if you want to get in before 1PM on Sunday, tell me how many tickets you need and I'll take care of it. Without a ticket, you can't get in until later.
Thanks for the tips Wolverine. I run 16" MT Street Radials on CCW wheels for the E55 at the track. I have gone through 4 sets of PS2's for the E on the street in the last 13 months and just put on the Pirelli PZero Corsas. The Noble is on PS2's in order to get ready for the One Lap of America which requires street tires with a tread rating of 140 or higher.
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CLS55 AMG
Originally Posted by OzE55
I'm sorry they aren't very good.
How do I get around the resolution problems?
The native files are over 1mb
How do I get around the resolution problems?
The native files are over 1mb
