Help me convince my parents to let me buy a Mercedes...
I had plenty of money in the bank because I was living at home, going to school full-time, working full-time, and was therefore too busy/tired to blow my money on wine, women, and song

I consider myself lucky to have been in that situation, and as far as I knew, no one considered me to be the over-priviledged rich kid.
The main reason I finally bought a used Benz (the 98 E430 with 118k) was that it was ONLY $12,900. I have since paid more money to have the sunroof fixed, the radio replaced, the passenger side mirror repaired, and the center console cupholder fixed (about another $2,000). PLUS, I had another dealer look at it, and it had been in a front-end accident that the selling dealer didn't tell me about.
Just this week, after the weather had gotten warmer, I discovered that the A/C was not working well. I have beside me right now an estimate for $1700 minimum, and $4500 maximum, to get that where it should be. Oh, and plus about $150 to get to this "diagnosis".
My point is: BUY a Certified Pre-Owned M-B. You can get 2.9% financing (if you need it), 12 months and up to 100,000 miles; I think a 2000 whatever with less that 75,000 miles will quailfy as a CPO.
Anyway, good luck with your parents and your car,
Musikmann
But yea if you are paying for the car who cares what your parents say. And for the most part your parents are right. Plus these cars are very very expensive to take care of when the warranty is out. I would never buy a used mercedes that didn't have the factory warranty with considerable time left on it. You are looking at spending at least $500 every time it goes in the shop, my old 2000 ML would avg a tad over $1 grand every time it went in but thanks to the factory warranty I didn't have to pay for it, after it went out of warranty I had it in and was stuck with a $760 bill and the car was traded in 6 months later. Another thing is if you are thinking about taking it somewhere besides the dealer that is a big mistake since when you go to trade the car in most people are very very picky about where you had the car serviced and they want to buy a car that was taken care of right. The dealers are the ones who do the most looking into the cars history and they want documents from certified mercedes dealers that fixed the car not your local shop or a jiffy lube.
I had plenty of money in the bank because I was living at home, going to school full-time, working full-time, and was therefore too busy/tired to blow my money on wine, women, and song

I consider myself lucky to have been in that situation, and as far as I knew, no one considered me to be the over-priviledged rich kid.
The main reason I finally bought a used Benz (the 98 E430 with 118k) was that it was ONLY $12,900. I have since paid more money to have the sunroof fixed, the radio replaced, the passenger side mirror repaired, and the center console cupholder fixed (about another $2,000). PLUS, I had another dealer look at it, and it had been in a front-end accident that the selling dealer didn't tell me about.
Just this week, after the weather had gotten warmer, I discovered that the A/C was not working well. I have beside me right now an estimate for $1700 minimum, and $4500 maximum, to get that where it should be. Oh, and plus about $150 to get to this "diagnosis".
My point is: BUY a Certified Pre-Owned M-B. You can get 2.9% financing (if you need it), 12 months and up to 100,000 miles; I think a 2000 whatever with less that 75,000 miles will quailfy as a CPO.
Anyway, good luck with your parents and your car,
Musikmann
Its plain as day.....they are jealous!
And whomever said it above: Its your money....do as you see fit! A right of passage......old enough to vote, old enough to pay taxes then you are old enough to make your own decision! If thats what you want.....buy it!
One item of advice....prove them wrong about the maintainance costs, etc.......do your homework, buy smart, have the car fully inspected by a Benz-o dealer!

Its plain as day.....they are jealous!
And whomever said it above: Its your money....do as you see fit! A right of passage......old enough to vote, old enough to pay taxes then you are old enough to make your own decision! If thats what you want.....buy it!
One item of advice....prove them wrong about the maintainance costs, etc.......do your homework, buy smart, have the car fully inspected by a Benz-o dealer!
Its plain as day.....they are jealous!
And whomever said it above: Its your money....do as you see fit! A right of passage......old enough to vote, old enough to pay taxes then you are old enough to make your own decision! If thats what you want.....buy it!
One item of advice....prove them wrong about the maintainance costs, etc.......do your homework, buy smart, have the car fully inspected by a Benz-o dealer!
It's not because they don't want you to have something nice... they do care about you, and just want you to drive a "normal" car instead of something that might be perceived as fancy.
But since they care about you, you can try to convince them by proving the safety of Mercedes-Benz.
See the attached pictures of my 2004 C230 Sport. My gf was driving, and hit another car at an intersection and then a pole.
Even the grill looks intact and my there were no real injuries except for a slight "seat belt bruise".
See how the car only got crumpled in front of the front tires... even the engine seemed to be in one piece..
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
It's not because they don't want you to have something nice... they do care about you, and just want you to drive a "normal" car instead of something that might be perceived as fancy.
But since they care about you, you can try to convince them by proving the safety of Mercedes-Benz.
See the attached pictures of my 2004 C230 Sport. My gf was driving, and hit another car at an intersection and then a pole.
Even the grill looks intact and my there were no real injuries except for a slight "seat belt bruise".
See how the car only got crumpled in front of the front tires... even the engine seemed to be in one piece..
And that is quite impressive how your car held up in that crash.
And that is quite impressive how your car held up in that crash.
the weird thing was that, here are the events that led up to the crash
* Several weeks earlier, I had just parked in a commuter parking lot, and my door was hit by a Ford Aerostar van. The culprit lied to the insurance company and didn't have to pay for it, but I got it fixed.
* A few weeks later, I was sitting still in bumper-bumper traffic on an exit ramp. I got rear ended and had a cracked bumper. Luckily I waited for a cop to show up this time, and the culprit paid for it.
* Fast forward a couple of weeks, and my car is total'd in the wreck you see above..
it was just bad karma... and it wasn't even my fault any of those times!
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Musikmann
Last edited by Musikmann; May 26, 2006 at 12:26 PM. Reason: Mis-read the post
And that is quite impressive how your car held up in that crash.
Bottom line comes down to can you shell out $1,500 a year for repairs? Can you afford the insurance? If you answered "no" to one of the above dont buy the car if you answered "yes" to both then buy the car and deal with your parents later.
Bottom line comes down to can you shell out $1,500 a year for repairs? Can you afford the insurance? If you answered "no" to one of the above dont buy the car if you answered "yes" to both then buy the car and deal with your parents later.
And I honestly think it's kind of rediculous that people percieve an older model Mercedes as showing off...all the W202s I've looked at are less expensive than a new Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. When I see a W202 or W124 or E36 BMW 3-series on the road I don't think "wow rich person", I think "decent sport sedan worth $5-15K". I see it as making a smart purchase decision to buy a lightly used one for less than a new econobox.
Last edited by MattB; May 26, 2006 at 04:56 PM.
And they really don't like the idea of me buying anything but a MB or BMW (as I'm looking for a new car). They recognize the fact that such a car does have a stigma attached to them, but they have personal experience on how safe they are...My current Ml was hit by a small hyundia or something, from the rear...the other car was totally mangled from the front, but all we had to do was replace the rear bumper. I barely felt anything. The other people had to go check in at the hospital to make sure they were fine. Apparently they think all other cars aren't safe enough, and was appalled by the fact I was even thinking of American Cars! *sigh*
And I honestly think it's kind of rediculous that people percieve an older model Mercedes as showing off...all the W202s I've looked at are less expensive than a new Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. When I see a W202 or W124 or E36 BMW 3-series on the road I don't think "wow rich person", I think "decent sport sedan worth $5-15K". I see it as making a smart purchase decision to buy a lightly used one for less than a new econobox.
Hopefully the operational costs won't be outrageous and I can use them as hard evidence that it's a reasonable car. My parents do like the fact that the C280 has only 194hp vs. the 255 of the Infiniti I35. This will all be a moot if I can find a black/black I35 Sport...the sport package on the I35 makes up for the A33 platform's handling deficiencies.
Musikmann
Road and Track Magazine Online
Best All-Around Sports Car
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....9&print_page=y
To summarize, here is their list:
9* Mercedes-Benz SLK350
8* Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary
7* BMW Z4 3.0i
6* Dodge Viper SRT-10
5* Honda S2000
4* Lotus Elise
3* Porsche Carrera S Coupe
2* Porsche Boxster S
1* Chevrolet Corvette Coupe
Personally, I think the SLK would've gotten a better place if they counted the SLK55 AMG.
Also, the Z4 would've gotten a better place if they counted the Z4 M Roadster.
Finally, since you're looking for low price, the S2000 is the best price.
Fifth Place
Mercedes-Benz C320
Let's canter to the crux: In this group, the Mercedes C320 offers the least horsepower (215) at the steepest base price ($40,644). That's not a swell combination. It's like a heavyweight boxer with Nancy Reagan's forearms.
This Benz quickly became regarded as the limousine of the bunch. Its ride is supple, as if there were four feet of suspension travel. And the ****pit is the quietest at wide-open throttle and at 70 mph — like riding in the Town Car that collected you at the airport last week.
But in the hills, our C-class went all wobbly. Its body weaves and dips and bobs and rolls and dives and squats whenever you start working the contact patches. This doesn't seem to affect outright grip — in fact, the C320 was a surprise winner on the skidpad — but it sure distracts the pilot, who's bombarded by warnings of imminent tip, roll, and general mayhem when no such crises loom. What saved the Benz from embarrassment was its adaptive five-speed, which learns what mood you're in and is ever coiled to offer timely shifts and useful engine braking. That, and its brakes. In this class, a 172-foot stopping distance is the bee's knees.
We've also just about had it with Benz's traditional slow-mo throttle tip-in — as if operated via various hawsers running through 20 feet of eaves troughing. Ditto the steering — now rack and pinion — which is improved but remains too heavy and slow-witted to satisfy. Those two traits alone do to the Benz's fun-to-drive quotient what CFO Scott Sullivan allegedly did to WorldCom stock. Why does the 3525-pound Benz feel as heavy as the Passat? The C320 takes itself too seriously, as if someone decreed, "Cut 90 percent of the fun and it'll be regarded as a miniature Maybach."
There are also ergonomic slip-ups that a company with Mercedes-Benz's experience shouldn't be making. The interior is sufficiently somber to depress a funeral director. The left side mirror is smaller than a dog's ear. The scatter of switches on the center stack resembles launch control. The tach is the same size as the fuel gauge. And the LCD showing what gear you're in — a big deal with manumatics — is so tiny as to be useless.
It's not for nothing that Benz drivers are regarded as rich. Our C320 was dipped in the optional Capri Blue paint. That cost $640. Except, in order even to ask for that option, you have to pony up a "Special Order" fee. Another $1000. The road to pretension is littered with, well, invoices.
Highs: Quick-thinking transmission, supple ride, sports-car brakes.
Lows: Delinquent body motions, mushy throttle response, a window sticker from hell.
The Verdict: Big lux, big bucks, few yucks.



