2.5-16V Engine
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1987 190E 2.3-16V Automatic
2.5-16V Engine
Where can i buy this engine at and how much is going to run if i find one? Oh ya, am i going to have to purchase it in Europe or are there places i can get it in the US? I have a 2.3-16v, but it has 140k on it, so i need something with less tear on it.
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You'll need the ECU for the engine as well. German eBay is your best bet, but they are still rare. Have you considered just doing a rebuild on your 2.3-16?
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1987 190E 2.3-16V Automatic
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How Much would a complete rebuild on my engine cost? I think i read that the 2.5 is basically a rebored 2.3 engine block with cams that lift higher. How about just re boring my car to 2.5? Would that work?
Might as well ask, but, who here lives in Cali? I havent lived there in three years, so im not completely sure on the emissions laws these days...would my car pass smog if i had the cams re-done on the car for performance? How about a stroker kit? In all, what shouldnt i do to keep the car from passing smog when i return to California?
Might as well ask, but, who here lives in Cali? I havent lived there in three years, so im not completely sure on the emissions laws these days...would my car pass smog if i had the cams re-done on the car for performance? How about a stroker kit? In all, what shouldnt i do to keep the car from passing smog when i return to California?
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There was a 2.5-16V engine with around 80K miles (I think) on ebay a while back for $4,000 obo. But it's the only one I've seen on ebay.
The 2.3 and 2.5L 16V are very similar, but not the same. The 2.3 is based on and earlier block and the main bearing width is different, I think the stroke is different, the cams are different, the intake passages are slightly larger, the 2.5 supposedly has dual valve springs, and the ECU/fuel pump relay are different.
Bekkers used to make a 2.5L stroker kit based on the stock 2.5L crank, but it cost around $5K.
You could get more performance by rebuilding your 2.3L, and spending some money on headwork and custom made cams. And you'd still have money left in the bank when you're done. If your engine still runs, it's a good candidate for an easy rebuild.
The 2.3 and 2.5L 16V are very similar, but not the same. The 2.3 is based on and earlier block and the main bearing width is different, I think the stroke is different, the cams are different, the intake passages are slightly larger, the 2.5 supposedly has dual valve springs, and the ECU/fuel pump relay are different.
Bekkers used to make a 2.5L stroker kit based on the stock 2.5L crank, but it cost around $5K.
You could get more performance by rebuilding your 2.3L, and spending some money on headwork and custom made cams. And you'd still have money left in the bank when you're done. If your engine still runs, it's a good candidate for an easy rebuild.
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The Car runs great, considering i took a big chance and bought it online and flew to new Hamp to pick it up. It drove awesome from NH to NC with no problems whatsoever, except the kickback, which might need replacing. If you say that rebuilding the 2.3 is in my favor, i might just do that, so, i guess its time to start hitting up shops for quotes.
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If you plan to do a performance rebuild, I'd suggest getting advice from one or more of the companies that specialize in doing performance work on the 16V engine.
Off the top of my head, I can think of RC Imports and Flying Tiger Racing. They do a lot of stuff with the 16V, but I'm sure that there are others as well.
Off the top of my head, I can think of RC Imports and Flying Tiger Racing. They do a lot of stuff with the 16V, but I'm sure that there are others as well.
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Originally Posted by ReyRey22
How Much would a complete rebuild on my engine cost? I think i read that the 2.5 is basically a rebored 2.3 engine block with cams that lift higher. How about just re boring my car to 2.5? Would that work?
Might as well ask, but, who here lives in Cali? I havent lived there in three years, so im not completely sure on the emissions laws these days...would my car pass smog if i had the cams re-done on the car for performance? How about a stroker kit? In all, what shouldnt i do to keep the car from passing smog when i return to California?
Might as well ask, but, who here lives in Cali? I havent lived there in three years, so im not completely sure on the emissions laws these days...would my car pass smog if i had the cams re-done on the car for performance? How about a stroker kit? In all, what shouldnt i do to keep the car from passing smog when i return to California?
you legally have to swap in an engine that is newer than the chassis you put it in, and it has to contain it's complete OBD (if applicable) and all other emissions parts.
i almost failed smog yesterday due to a gascap; they spent 30 minutes looking for an airfilter that doesn't exist in my model 190e - because the california air regulations board thought it should be in the car, but didn't know any better.
so in order to pass smog, i was required to have a part that was never built in my car. the tech finally agreed that the map in the hood of the car was probably more accurate than a book written by a bunch of beauracrats.
