New Key Style for my C Class
Super Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 736
Likes: 1
From: Haslett, Mi
2011 E350 4matic
i am getting mixed results when i call stealerships in the area. i tell them i have a key that i want to add but it just needs to be re-programmed. some stealers say they cant do it and they can only sell me a new one while one stealer said it would be between 60-100.
whats your guy's thoughts, if i manage to get a key off of CL can a dealer re-program it or no??
whats your guy's thoughts, if i manage to get a key off of CL can a dealer re-program it or no??
Super Moderator Alumni
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,539
Likes: 4
From: Southern Cal
a C32 AMG & S-Works Tarmac
Super Moderator Alumni
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,539
Likes: 4
From: Southern Cal
a C32 AMG & S-Works Tarmac
i am getting mixed results when i call stealerships in the area. i tell them i have a key that i want to add but it just needs to be re-programmed. some stealers say they cant do it and they can only sell me a new one while one stealer said it would be between 60-100.
whats your guy's thoughts, if i manage to get a key off of CL can a dealer re-program it or no??
whats your guy's thoughts, if i manage to get a key off of CL can a dealer re-program it or no??
MBworld Guru
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,058
Likes: 18
From: Diamond Bar, CA
W206 PHEV AMG
i am getting mixed results when i call stealerships in the area. i tell them i have a key that i want to add but it just needs to be re-programmed. some stealers say they cant do it and they can only sell me a new one while one stealer said it would be between 60-100.
whats your guy's thoughts, if i manage to get a key off of CL can a dealer re-program it or no??
whats your guy's thoughts, if i manage to get a key off of CL can a dealer re-program it or no??
as said many times used MB smartkeys are JUNK. do not buy them unless you are buying them for the purpose of replacing the outer casing for your own key.
also as I said above if you have a good relationship with the parts guy at any dealership you can politely ask them if they will be able to give you the discount on them. I can get mine for $140 if I want and NO I cannot buy it for you since you have to be the registered owner of the car to purchase the key.
Last edited by FrankW; Oct 7, 2008 at 04:48 PM.
Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
From: Lisbon ( Portugal )
C 220
Hi, There
First of all, sorry for me inglish ( Or english ) but im from portugal...and i live in portugal
I Just want to tell you guys the cheapest way of having the new key ( W204 ) in a older model ( W203 or W202 )
1º- You have to buy a used Key from anybody ( i have buyed mine from ebay, its a 2 button Key )
2º- And the worst thing is taht you have to ruined one of the keys from your car
( not ruined but remove the chip )
3º- Im going to show you the step by step, on how to do it
STEPS
1º The New Key
2º The New Key ( Interior removed )
3ºThe Old Key ( interior removed )and The Chip that you have to replace, is out
4º This is the closer Look of the chip that you have to remove and replace
5º The Chip already in place ( new Key )
The Chip from your old keys has to be welded in the new key.
Be carefull, the welding was to be made with a Hot Air Station, ( This is the name in portuguese ) and was to be made by a professional welder
If you have any dought, just e-mail me or look at this in the portuguese Mercedes Forum
http://www.forum.amigosdosmercedes.c...ighlight=chave
Mine so far is working...like new
First of all, sorry for me inglish ( Or english ) but im from portugal...and i live in portugal
I Just want to tell you guys the cheapest way of having the new key ( W204 ) in a older model ( W203 or W202 )
1º- You have to buy a used Key from anybody ( i have buyed mine from ebay, its a 2 button Key )
2º- And the worst thing is taht you have to ruined one of the keys from your car
( not ruined but remove the chip )
3º- Im going to show you the step by step, on how to do it
STEPS
1º The New Key
2º The New Key ( Interior removed )
3ºThe Old Key ( interior removed )and The Chip that you have to replace, is out
4º This is the closer Look of the chip that you have to remove and replace
5º The Chip already in place ( new Key )
The Chip from your old keys has to be welded in the new key.
Be carefull, the welding was to be made with a Hot Air Station, ( This is the name in portuguese ) and was to be made by a professional welder
If you have any dought, just e-mail me or look at this in the portuguese Mercedes Forum
http://www.forum.amigosdosmercedes.c...ighlight=chave
Mine so far is working...like new
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 18,677
Likes: 9
From: OC
a quarter mile at a time
If your car is under warranty, the EASIEST way to get a new style key is to take your old one in and tell them it's cracked or it dosen't work correctly. They'll replace it with the new style chrome key.
If you're out of warranty, I would just spend the $250 for the key from the factory. Chrome keys off of ebay are still like $50-$75 and the IC in question has TINY contacts. Very good chance you'll ruin both keys and then have to shell out the original $250 for a new key from the factory.
If you're out of warranty, I would just spend the $250 for the key from the factory. Chrome keys off of ebay are still like $50-$75 and the IC in question has TINY contacts. Very good chance you'll ruin both keys and then have to shell out the original $250 for a new key from the factory.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,240
Likes: 5
From: New Jersey
E550 4MATIC
I know that MB overcharges for a lot of things, but that's kinda ****y don't you think? If you need to have a new key just because it's chrome, then you should pay. I did for my old C-Class.
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 18,677
Likes: 9
From: OC
a quarter mile at a time
Well if the key cracks before the warranty is up, then it should be replaced shouldn't it? It's completely up to them if they want to replace it with the old style key or the new style key.
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 526
Likes: 1
From: MD
2007 C230 and 1985 Monte SS
I already had the new style chrome key though, and they replaced it with one of the same.
Junior Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 47
Likes: 1
21 GLA 250 4Matic Denim Blue
Hi, There
First of all, sorry for me inglish ( Or english ) but im from portugal...and i live in portugal
I Just want to tell you guys the cheapest way of having the new key ( W204 ) in a older model ( W203 or W202 )
1º- You have to buy a used Key from anybody ( i have buyed mine from ebay, its a 2 button Key )
2º- And the worst thing is taht you have to ruined one of the keys from your car
( not ruined but remove the chip )
3º- Im going to show you the step by step, on how to do it
STEPS
1º The New Key
2º The New Key ( Interior removed )
3ºThe Old Key ( interior removed )and The Chip that you have to replace, is out
4º This is the closer Look of the chip that you have to remove and replace
5º The Chip already in place ( new Key )
The Chip from your old keys has to be welded in the new key.
Be carefull, the welding was to be made with a Hot Air Station, ( This is the name in portuguese ) and was to be made by a professional welder
If you have any dought, just e-mail me or look at this in the portuguese Mercedes Forum
http://www.forum.amigosdosmercedes.c...ighlight=chave
Mine so far is working...like new
First of all, sorry for me inglish ( Or english ) but im from portugal...and i live in portugal
I Just want to tell you guys the cheapest way of having the new key ( W204 ) in a older model ( W203 or W202 )
1º- You have to buy a used Key from anybody ( i have buyed mine from ebay, its a 2 button Key )
2º- And the worst thing is taht you have to ruined one of the keys from your car
( not ruined but remove the chip )
3º- Im going to show you the step by step, on how to do it
STEPS
1º The New Key
2º The New Key ( Interior removed )
3ºThe Old Key ( interior removed )and The Chip that you have to replace, is out
4º This is the closer Look of the chip that you have to remove and replace
5º The Chip already in place ( new Key )
The Chip from your old keys has to be welded in the new key.
Be carefull, the welding was to be made with a Hot Air Station, ( This is the name in portuguese ) and was to be made by a professional welder
If you have any dought, just e-mail me or look at this in the portuguese Mercedes Forum
http://www.forum.amigosdosmercedes.c...ighlight=chave
Mine so far is working...like new
pic to prove it:
Super Moderator
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,295
Likes: 22
From: VA
THE C350
look at the post right above yours. and he is going from 2 button to 2 button so i don't know why you said 3 to 2
Last edited by samaritrey; Sep 12, 2009 at 09:46 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 3,191
Likes: 7
From: Va Beach, VA
05 C230K SS (sold), 06 C55 (sold), 08 Yamaha R1 (sold), 16 X5M
Newbie
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Uk
w203 & w208
Hi all... well i think it is only in the us where you get the old fob with panic button. we don't see them here in the Uk. i have never seen anybody with 4 button keys....
anyway if you look into the picture of no40 the pcb of the old fob contained 3 push buttons though the plastic casing only had 2 button which is strange .. since i'd opened several fob both with 2 buttons and 3 buttons. the 2 buttons pcb definitely do not contained any extra push button for the boot.
so what i'am asking here based on you guys experience of swapping the chip ... will it work on the 3 button remote?? since i had 3 button old fob which had cracked plastic case and a new chromy 3 button fob to replace with... i hope some one had done it before... tq
anyway if you look into the picture of no40 the pcb of the old fob contained 3 push buttons though the plastic casing only had 2 button which is strange .. since i'd opened several fob both with 2 buttons and 3 buttons. the 2 buttons pcb definitely do not contained any extra push button for the boot.
so what i'am asking here based on you guys experience of swapping the chip ... will it work on the 3 button remote?? since i had 3 button old fob which had cracked plastic case and a new chromy 3 button fob to replace with... i hope some one had done it before... tq
Super Moderator
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,295
Likes: 22
From: VA
THE C350
Hi all... well i think it is only in the us where you get the old fob with panic button. we don't see them here in the Uk. i have never seen anybody with 4 button keys....
anyway if you look into the picture of no40 the pcb of the old fob contained 3 push buttons though the plastic casing only had 2 button which is strange .. since i'd opened several fob both with 2 buttons and 3 buttons. the 2 buttons pcb definitely do not contained any extra push button for the boot.
so what i'am asking here based on you guys experience of swapping the chip ... will it work on the 3 button remote?? since i had 3 button old fob which had cracked plastic case and a new chromy 3 button fob to replace with... i hope some one had done it before... tq
anyway if you look into the picture of no40 the pcb of the old fob contained 3 push buttons though the plastic casing only had 2 button which is strange .. since i'd opened several fob both with 2 buttons and 3 buttons. the 2 buttons pcb definitely do not contained any extra push button for the boot.
so what i'am asking here based on you guys experience of swapping the chip ... will it work on the 3 button remote?? since i had 3 button old fob which had cracked plastic case and a new chromy 3 button fob to replace with... i hope some one had done it before... tq
it is interesting if you look at the pcb their is the 2 solder points that you could add buttons to if you wanted too. that leads me to believe that the pcbs are all identical except for how many buttons are soldered on. just thought of one more thing i bet the keyless and go keys have different pcbs or more things on the board but that won't effect the w203 except for the very few that have keyless and go.
Last edited by samaritrey; Sep 13, 2009 at 05:14 AM.
Super Moderator
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,295
Likes: 22
From: VA
THE C350
2 button case with the generic 3 button pcb. sorry i meant TelmoChaparro post the quote threw me off. and amaazon post both have 4 buttons.
Last edited by samaritrey; Sep 13, 2009 at 05:10 AM.
Super Moderator
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,295
Likes: 22
From: VA
THE C350
alarm is an option in some countries so that won't always be there. and the trunk won't be on the case but will have the pcb that supports it at least in the usa.
Last edited by samaritrey; Sep 13, 2009 at 05:09 AM.
Super Member
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
From: Dunstable, ,Ma
Nowhere ...Fast
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 3,191
Likes: 7
From: Va Beach, VA
05 C230K SS (sold), 06 C55 (sold), 08 Yamaha R1 (sold), 16 X5M
these still costing over 200? i was thinking about purchasing the chrome key from ebay since I have access to soldering equipment at my school but just wanted to make sure this would for sure work! do you still just get the blade from the dealer?! just tell them you need a replacement blade or soemthing? and those are like a few bucks right?
Super Member
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
From: Dunstable, ,Ma
Nowhere ...Fast
these still costing over 200? i was thinking about purchasing the chrome key from ebay since I have access to soldering equipment at my school but just wanted to make sure this would for sure work! do you still just get the blade from the dealer?! just tell them you need a replacement blade or soemthing? and those are like a few bucks right?
I have aquestion though, will a 4 button key be a direct plug and play with the new 4 button housing?
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 18,677
Likes: 9
From: OC
a quarter mile at a time
No, the old blade and new blade are different, they are not swappable. The blad keys are cheap.
You can't take the guts of the old style key and put them in the new style key. You have to remove the chip and solder it into the new key, OR, just buy a new style key from the dealership.
You can't take the guts of the old style key and put them in the new style key. You have to remove the chip and solder it into the new key, OR, just buy a new style key from the dealership.
