lawguy

Hey gang -

Thanks for all the input to my prior threads as I continue to learn about, as well as search for my first MB car.

I'm probably going to pass on the 2006 pewter e55 which i posted about a day or two ago. Just not a wild fan of the color of the car, and the price is a bit high.

I think I'm also probably drawn more to an e63 than an e55 - and no, I am not trying to start a flame war...LOL. But, I like the cosmetic exterior changes, the wheels and the reviews of the 7 speed transmission are incredibly glowing. Since I'm not a modder, I think its the route for me.

I'm looking at a pair of CPO cars, identically configured, but one is an '07 and one is an '08. Price is about $5k difference, mileage is within 6k ('08 actually has more miles).

I have looked but not seen much about any significant differences in the two model years. Anything about the '07 cars that I should be wear about (in their "first" year)?

Is there a thread anywhere about differences between 07, 08 and 09 cars?

Thanks, as always!

Yuille36

As an owner of an 07 E63, the only issues that I have had was sqeaking brakes, and airmatic strut failures of both rear struts, but not at the same time. All was covered under warranty. My car, has been bullet proof thus far, I perform all of my own maintenance, and due for a oil change very shortly. Oh I almost forgot, I took in it to fix the parktronic rear led readout, that was starting to hang from the rear headliner. That's been all the issues that I have ever had with this car. As far as I know, their isn't any differences between the 07 and 08.

yippyskippy107

My 2007 E63 has no TPMS, I think all 2008's do however.

MB_Forever

The model years are almost identical. Here are some minor differences:

For 2007 models, the color obsidian black was available, but in 2008 was replaced by sienna black. Obsidian is now reserved for S-Class, SL, and CL only I believe.

2008 models come with the "basic" version of TPMS (just tells you one tire is low on pressure and does not give any readings). This is different than the "Full" version, which uses four sensors and gives 4 independent tire pressures (one from each tire).

The steering wheel for performance package equipped E63s are different between 2007 and 2008. If your car does not have performance package, then this does not affect you.

220S

I have the 'basic' version of TPMS in my 2009. But in the manual it says that the 'full' version (which it calls 'advanced TPMS') is only available in Canada. Was it ever available on the W211s in the US? Is it on the US W212s?

MB_Forever

The advanced version was actually available as an option on all E-Classes up until 2006. Then for some reason they took it out for model year 2007. Then a law got passed requiring all new cars to have some type of tire pressure alert system. So in 2008, Mercedes brought back TPMS in a "basic" version for E-Classes and full version for higher models only, such as, CL and S-Class.

I have the full/advanced version of TPMS installed on my car. Steve has installed it for me a few years back. Actually, he hooked me up with a slightly better one than factory. Still factory OEM system, but slightly upgraded He does wonders.

tscales

That is truly weird about the sensors. My 05 E55 has what must be 'advanced' as I see pressures for each tire.

Heck, my daughter's 07 Prius had 'advanced' standard. What is Mercedes thinking?

guysandiego

sounds smart -- if your not a modder go with the e63. I would try to find a good deal on a 2008...because it would allow Mercedes 1 year to work out any bugs.

starbrite

@lawguy, what's the mileage and options on those 2 cars.

And if I may ask, what's the asking price on the '08 ? I'm considering an '08 with P2, 15k miles.

No CPO, but 1 1/2 yrs factory warranty remaining (MB ELW 7/75 @ $4100 available). Asking price has dropped over the last 2 mo, from 59k to 48k

Non MB dealer and a haul from where I live, but I'm really tempted to make an offer on the car.

There just doesn't seem to be any end to their rapid depreciation!

NCE500

My 07 has been the most reliable Mercedes I have owned. It is a blast to drive, and the E63 is plenty fast too despite what the 55 crowd may say. Mine does not have TPMS, but my SL600 does, probably the "advanced" version. I can't speak for the "basic" version, but my TPMS is finicky. I'd honestly rather not have it.

I think the 07 vs. 08 is mostly the same car, the 09 had updated Navi. Be sure to get as much warranty as you can, you should be able to get 2 years of extended Mercedes ELW warranty in addition to the extra year of CPO. Have the dealer work that warranty into the deal, it will probably pay for itself and will also make your car easier to sell later if you decide to.

Best of luck with your choice, and post up some pics when you get it.

220S

imho, $59k was probably a bit too much to begin with. I say that only because the wholesale trade-in price for a 2009 E63 (with 18k and P2 and Pano, etc.) was $58k (at the dealer here; I'm working on getting a new 997.2 and selling the E63.) That said, they are hard cars for dealers to re-sell in this market.

starbrite

I agree on both counts.....so is $48k the right price or lower ?
(I saw the same car, w/16k miles and cpo, sell for $49 at a MB dealer in Boston)

BTW why are you looking to get out of the 63 so soon ?

Edit : Strange carfax, only the import of the vehicle, 3 registration updates , auction sale and online listing. No inspections, no service, nothing else at all. Anyone seen one like this before ?

220S

Did you see these prices posted today? https://mbworld.org/forums/4261169-post4.html They reflect what my dealer is wanting to pay (wholesale) for trade-in for my car with the mileage I have on it.

fwiw, I've seen several CarFax reports with no recorded service, etc.. If you can convince the dealer to run the VIN, you can get the full VMI for the car. It's possible the service was all done at an Indy and won't show on the CarFax.

I'm dumping my E63 because I really don't need a big sedan and seats in the rear. There are only two of us and we're covered for when we need a bigger car besides the E63. I like the car but it just feels a bit disconnected. Being fast in a straight line kind of wore off for me.

I prefer the feel of a lighter car with a dynamic chassis and steering. I just personally would rather drive on the back open twisty roads at 40-70 mph instead of 100+ mph on the straights. I don't feel as connected with the E63 as I do with my current 993. Every time I take the 993 out, it's fun even if I'm driving slow. I like that tactile, visceral feeling.

Don't get me wrong, the E63 is a great cruising car and a comfortable car. Although I don't think it's really that luxurious to be a true luxury car. But again, it is a good all around grocery getter and cruiser.

Just personal preferences. I'm ordering a 997.2TT. I guess I'm just more comfortable with P-cars (and familiar with them) and I'll also keep my 993.

starbrite

Thanks for the response 220s ! No, I didn't see those prices, thanks for the heads up. There sure are a lot of 63's coming into the marketplace and the prices seem in line.

I suppose the $48k the dealer (non mb) is pretty much in the ballpark for a 14k miles car.

Good reasoning to be getting out of the 63. Interesting that you call it comfortable ( I haven't driven one yet). I thought the ride would be much harsher than a E320/350 due to the 18" wheels and stiffer suspension ?

220S

Airmatic makes for a much smoother ride and especially on bad urban roads. I also had an E350 and it was a rougher ride than the E63 (or the E550 with air suspension.) Even with Airmatic at sport II setting, it's still smoother; a bit stiffer with the damping but smoother. Hard to explain, you'll have to test it for yourself.

tscales

My E55 is by far the smoothest riding car I have ever owned. Bumps disappear. Much smoother than my 996