Skylaw

Quite a few folks on this forum and on MBWorld have successfully used the RAZR V3 with AWS supplied equipment. Some have posted their firmware version and discussed what they have been able to access through Bluetooth. Suggest you search both forums using terms "RAZR" and "Bluetooth" or "RAZR" and "AWS." However, pay attention to whether the RAZR is a CDMA version (used by Verizon) or a GSM version (used by many others). They are not the same. The CDMA RAZR is also called the V3c.

kyles S500

Thanks for everyones help. If you need to change your S/W version go to http://www.planetmotox.net/monster_packs.php and select S/W version: R374_G_OE.42.09R_MOTOX.shx It is the 2nd on the list. Download this into comp. Then go to http://motox.info/showthread.php?t=5747 and follow the directions on how to load it onto your RAZR. This version is the US approved version that AWS told me I needed and would have to buy a phone from them. If you have an older RAZR this will also upgrade your phone with a newer software version.

Other useful downloads are located on this page http://www.motox.info/showthread.php?t=13796

You will also need to download RSD Lite and can get that from here http://en.soft4gsm.com

Hope this is helpful and saves you the $350.00 for the new phone.

kyles S500

Got my AWS puck today and it works with the phone perfectly. No problems whatsoever. Now I just need to learn how to use the voice recognition.

rgleason

Do you mean that you can add a V60 cradle to a Timeport system and it will work with the PUCK?

Please advise.

Dick Gleason

barrykaye

Make that three. Does Eurocarphone have an estimated delivery date?

Skylaw

That is what it means.

superflysocal

even without switching pse to v60 pse?

MagicO309D

Just make sure your PSE has a blue part number label. If it does, It'll work. If not, you'll need to replace your PSE with one of the newer versions.

JohnAMG

You are 100% correct. I had to buy a new PSE(newest with blue label) for my 2002 E55 in order for the BT puck to work.

John

Mr. Big

I seem to be having software version problems with my RAZR V3i when using the Argos unit. I'm told that there's another newer version 3 firmware update to the Argos and I've been trying for the last few weeks to get the latest unit but I can't seem to get anybody at Aardvark to return my phone calls or e-mails. My problem is that my phonebook will only download about 50% of the time, it doesn't always pair up when I start the car, it'll lock up when I use the keypad on the COMAND... very frustrating.

superflysocal

I am confused now.

I was initially under the impression the bt puck for v60 is only for the d2b system. however just got off the phone with aws and they confirmed that it will work with MOST (ie 04 w220) as long as you have a v60 cradle. he wasn't sure but he did ask someone who confirmed it. is this true? so it would work for 03-04 E and 04 S classes?

Jayhawk

"...I am confused..."

I am too, and I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard that phrase here.

paulhu

I had my BT V60 puck for MOST from AWS for several months now, and it works great on my 2004 E500. AWS called me several days ago and informed me that the V60 BT for MOST has arrived to see if I was still interested, and I informed her that I did NOT need it now, since I waited too long and the fact that I already purchased one unit from them several months back.

I am using the puck on my Motorola PEBL.

gvaughn

Can anyone confirm if the BT systems are the same regardless of which MB class.

i.e. can I assume that the BT system on the S-class will work the same as the BT system on the E-class? I called my dealer and he has BT on some S-class models. I want to visit my dealer and demo my phone with a BT system to test compatibility before ordering one for my car (an E-class).

MagicO309D

The MHI system and Bluetooth Interface Module are the same for all cars from MY 2005 to present, dealer and MY 2007 factroy installed systems alike.

The only exceptions are M-Class (MY '05), G-Class, SLR. These vehicles still use the older V60 compatible systems.

MagicO309D

Yes. As long as the car has a V60 coil-cord cradle, the Puck (V60 Bluetooth Cradle Adaptor) will work plug-and-play. This includes cars with D2b and MOST bus.

gvaughn

Great. I'm going to try to test my phone tomorrow in an S-class and I'll report back the results for a Nokia 6682 (Symbian OS).

MagicO309D

You'll likely be able to test it in an '07 E-Class too since the '07 E's have been shipping for about 2 weeks now. Just ask to see an E with P1 package or up. They're equipped with hands-free from the factory now too!

Don't forget to have someone call you while you're already in a call to see how your phone's Bluetooth link reacts. It's one of the more common issues that stresses the link. Try accessing voicemail. If your phone downloads it's phonebook, try making a call during the download as an added stress test.

Good Luck!

gvaughn

Thanks. Does hands-free automatically mean BT? I thought you still need the BT interface? I asked my dealer sales rep today and he didn't think he has any E's with BT. I'll check tomorrow when I'm at the dealership though.

rgleason

I have looked into this a bit further. Adding a V60 cradle and then adding a BT puck will only work if one has the autosensing PSE (Q682-0754 (V60 & Timeport "auto sense")). The puck emulates the V60 phone so if one is using a Q682-0648 (Timeport) or Q682-9648 (Timeport) PSE, a V60 bt adapter won't work with that PSE. My assumption is that the V60 PSEs will also work with the puck, e.g., Q682-0845 (V60) or Q682-0886 (V60).

Dick Gleason

superflysocal

ok, but is it the same bt puck for both systems? i have a d2b and a MOST car, both with v60 cradle.... i would like to interchange between them.

if not, then what are the two mercedes part numbers for each system?

superflysocal

This contradicts what was mentioned earlier about any system with a startac or higher system would work if a v60 cradle is installed.

How sure are you about your source?

MagicO309D

There is only one Puck (V60 Bluetooth Cradle Adaptor, B67875856). It works with all cars that have a functioning V60 phone system with V60 cradle installed.

Cars with StarTAC systems require V60 cradle and new V60 PSE.

Cars with Timeport will need a V60 cradle and may need a V60 compatible PSE (newer PSE was phased into production during the Timeport run). There is no VIN cutoff for the change so one must look at the PSE and see if it has a blue part number label. If white, it needs to be exchanged with a blue one.

rgleason

As I understand the technology of the puck, it emulates the V60 phone so that the PSE "sees" a V60 and communicates through bluetooth to ultimately facilitate work with the steering wheel controls and the headunit. That, at the PSE end of things, is similar to what I understand the Mikbox does.

Mercedes PSEs (for Timeports and V60s) work with one phone or the other, unless you have the "blue tagged" PSE. See some data borrowed from Mik's website (Mikbox.com) below:

"Following PSEs are currently supported [these work with the Mikbox, but you need a different Mikbox for use with different PSEs]:

- Q682-0460 (StarTac)
- Q682-9460 (StarTac)
- Q682-0648 (Timeport)
- Q682-9648 (Timeport)
- Q682-0754 (V60 & Timeport "auto sense")
- Q682-0845 (V60)
- Q682-0886 (V60)"

The "auto sense PSE is the one they call "blue tagged."

If my information is accurate, the puck emulates the V60 but not the Startac or the Timeport. Can anyone else confirm this?

Dick Gleason

MagicO309D

You're spot on, Puck only works with PSE's that are compatible with V60. If you've got a functioning V60 hands-free system and want Bluetooth and a new handset, the Puck upgrade is a no brainer.

There is also a cool new version of the Puck on the way, code name "Puck with Tail", that will make owners of MY 2004 S-Class and MY 2003-2004 E-Class owners very happy. If you have one of these cars without a phone system, just add "Puck with tail" to get a fully integrated hands-free solution. This is possible because hands-free phone functionallity was built into the CP211 communications platform (specific Teleaid Box) included in every one of these cars at the factory. This new Puck has a leadout that simply plugs into the cradle connector tucked under the center console floor, no other hardware needed! The bad news is that it is not expected until about October this year.