greenwillie

If you had to choose between the new K-40 RL360 w/laser or the Escort 9500ci, which one would you choose? I know there are other options which may be superior to the ones mentioned but i was wondering if there were only these two to choose from...which one and why? Thanks!

jbondox

I like both, but there is more bells and whistles with the escort with the red light camera and auto false rejection... though the K40 has better laser jammers

plus with midcityengineering.com cluster intergration with the escort, you dont have to keep the ugly display or controller visible

jlr

I have had both. However, remember that at least with the Escort, you will need to disable the K band if your car has distronic. If not, it will false all of the time and my guess it will, as well with the K-40. No way to turn it off.

Jksellman

beats them all

mmereos

I had the V-1 and it kept going off in my S550 because I have distronic. Even turning it off it seems to still go off because of the safety features. I also didn't like how it always went off. True it's a great radar detector but honestly since I started using trapster on my iPhone I have been very pleased; the irony is that I got a few tickets when I had a radar detector and since I got rid of it in 2007 I have yet to get a speeding ticket...Knock on wood.

Shodan01

My V1 doesn't go off with my 2012 CLS63. I love them both, but LOVE the arrows..

jbondox

V1 was great many years ago... not so much today, I was just in a vehicle with a V1 last week and it reminded me why I got rid of mine... too many false alarms. 9500ci has topped the K40 in my personal and professional opinion because of the auto learn and the red light camera database. Further the ability to display it on the MB instrument cluster and use steering wheel controls is just icing on the cake. I still think the K40 has better laser jammers though but the escort has not let me down either.

W210

Thanks, I suppose there isn't an interface for the V1 or any windshield mounted radar detectors to make the detectors distronic plus friendly?

I have a 2012 E550 so the windshield coating is not an issue, K band interference is.

Curious I recall reading a member without issues using his 8500 blue, have to look into it.

KeepRtPassLeft

If you are going to get laser jammers, the best are Laser Interceptor. Escort perform poorly in testing and K40 doesn't work at all.

For radar detectors and those who have Distronic, on the Valentine One if you turn the Traffic Monitor Filter on (available only on firmware 3.891 and up) and pop off, you should be able to reduce if not eliminate falses. If you are still getting falses, then you can also try programming it into L or little L mode. If that still doesn't work then you can turn K band off.

For Escort and Beltronics, you can turn POP off and turn on Traffic Sensr Rejection. On some models you can turn off k band if you're still getting falses from Distronic.

If you buy directly from Escort, Beltronics, or Valentine; they all give you a 30 day trial. If you dont like it, you may return it for a full refund.

W210

Much thanks there. My V1 is doesn't have the Traffic Monitor Filter:
But I guess I'll turn pop off to see if there is any improvement. If not, I'll bite the bullet and do the upgrade to see if things improve.

jbondox

really? I have the EX2 on my car and it has saved me numerous times driving to work. And they pull us for 10mph over the speed limit here. So let me guess, mine is just mysteriously working? Seriously get real.

and K40...

I can tear apart this whole post but wont waste the time

KeepRtPassLeft

If you would like to attend our next jammer testing meet in NJ in the fall, let me know. I would be happy to show you the difference in performance between K40 and other brands.

jbondox

you go play in your make believe world, I have better things to do. Maybe you should have the defusers professionally installed also before your test... contact K40 and ask them who they recommend... make sure you let them know what you are doing also so there is no excuses with any party.

I will keep driving with my EX2, it will keep saving my ***, and I guess it can be the mysterious EX2 jammer that has always worked

KeepRtPassLeft

Let's go to the video!

http://youtu.be/UfV3VJll9yI

http://youtu.be/aqLMhudDLz0

http://youtu.be/oQsa5HltHe0

http://youtu.be/Q_Ereb33BIY

http://youtu.be/7QcviEfVVv4

http://youtu.be/5J8VYCCPQAs

http://youtu.be/CNOMVlm3Dc8

Mr.Radarguy

LOL....... NEWBIE with 7 post doing nothing but slandering a company that has been in business for 30 yrs and pioneered the radar and laser industry ( K40 ) .....

Yeah there is no intent here. Post what you would like my friend the REAL professionals know the truth.

jbondox

http://youtu.be/HY3NpAOiI_o

http://youtu.be/r46G5XA8wOE

http://youtu.be/hlsH-83bB4M


found these

jbondox

also your post with this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qcvi...ature=youtu.be

seriously, it clearly shows jamming to the gun on center mass, do you think after 12 seconds of hitting the vehicle, the driver might slow down as it is getting closer? real world, the car is that small and over 500 feet away, sure if you are closer you can hit the headlight... my god dude, you have a police scanner going also? how many pencils in your pocket protector? sell a laser gun and get a hooker or something, it is ok to transition to the real world, the matrix was just a movie

KeepRtPassLeft

Most LIDAR encounters occur under 1000 feet. Some states have legislated a maximum range of a LIDAR reading that can be used to issue a citation. If you noticed the audi had Veil which is a IR diffusing coating applied to his headlights and a license plate cover that also absorbs IR, these two items reduce the effectiveness of the LIDAR gun to obtain a reading especially at longer distances. When they were shooting the LTI Truspeed, starting at 900 feet they started getting instant readings on the Audi. The K40 EX was totally ineffective at preventing a reading below 900 feet. In my state, they will not shoot you with LIDAR over 1000 feet, so if I was driving that Audi, I would have gotten a ticket.

I am in the real world, and don't need a hooker. My wife of 12 years suits me fine.

jbondox

: yawn:

KeepRtPassLeft

I see that those videos are from an independent third party. Oh wait, they were posted by K40. K40 doesn't have any financial interest in posting video that they feel makes their products look good, oh yes they do.

The first video you posted is not a LIDAR encounter, but a K band radar encounter. The K40 gave about a 25 second alert prior to reaching the police. I estimate the driver in the first video was going about 30mph. That gave the driver about a 1/4 mile before reaching the police, to determine if it a true police radar, or a door opener. The problem, is that all police radars can get a reading on you at more than 1/4 of a mile. So the K40 in that instance if there wasn't any other traffic on the road if you were speeding, would have alerted you that you are getting a ticket. A good radar detector alerts you BEFORE you are in the range where the police can get a radar reading on you.

For a manufacturer of radar and LIDAR countermeasures, you would expect K40 to know the different makes and models of LIDAR guns. The LIDAR gun used in the second and third videos is a Kustom ProLaser III, not the ProLaserII.

In the third video, he got a reading on the ford. The change in tone is when he got a reading, and he put the gun down.

I am not being a jerk, I am just showing you these things so you may learn something, and be more knowledgable and equipped.

jbondox

LMAO, my real world driving dictates that the K40 works as intended and has kept me out of jail numerous times. Maybe you should ask a real police officer how they actually do it.

KeepRtPassLeft

You probably drive like a granny. That is why you havent gotten a ticket.

KeepRtPassLeft

Hey Jim, I just put it together. You work at a shop that installs K40. North Olmstead Performance. So you have a financial interest in selling a system that gives your shop the highest profit.

Why don't you tell us on the forum how much you charge for an installed K40 system, and how much each K40 system costs your shop. You should comment how the K40 is a lot more profitable to the shop than the other installed systems on the market.

Too bad you post and support what is best for your wallet, not what is best for the customer.

Cloud_9

Just registered to help curtail the spread of misinformation at the hands of jbondox. Whether he is a paid-salesmen pushing a system that doesn't work for the largest commission or simply a slow driver who never even needs real protection...the truth of that does not interest me.

K40 has been tested time and time again to provide little to absolutely no protection. Having personally seen the diffusers tested on my own vehicle, I can tell you it will not do anything to help you avoid a ticket...it is all smoke and mirrors. Now I know it's never fun to have someone come in and say that your system you paid 2k+ is absolutely useless...but the truth of the matter is that if you desire actual protection, it will not be found with the K40 system.

Just wanted to chime in to save any would-be K40 owners from being lulled into a false sense of security with a product that does not protect.

As for the OP's question, the 9500's radar detection is quite good, but typically, if you are interested in real laser protection, the shifter heads need to be replaced with separate protection.

Cheers!

RaDaRkInG

Jbondox is a tool because the K40 is an overpriced POS and it doesn't detect radar as good as a $399 V1 and many other lesser detectors and the K40's laser jamming capabilities leave much to be desired. This is the truth so Jbondox can LOL or yawn, but he is a shill for K40.