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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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Just took delivery of a 2004 E320 with the Premium package which has the Harmon Kardon radio and Navigation system among other neat items. However, I have been unable to figure out how to have the Navigation system On without the radio (or CD) playing. There is nothing in the owner's manual on how to have only the Navigation system on. I've had to resort to using the Mute button to keep the radio (CD) from playing when I only want the Navigation function. Has anyone figured this out?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Re: W211 Audio Always On

Originally posted by Mavrogenis
Just took delivery of a 2004 E320 with the Premium package which has the Harmon Kardon radio and Navigation system among other neat items. However, I have been unable to figure out how to have the Navigation system On without the radio (or CD) playing. There is nothing in the owner's manual on how to have only the Navigation system on. I've had to resort to using the Mute button to keep the radio (CD) from playing when I only want the Navigation function. Has anyone figured this out?
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Hi, welcome. Please learn to use the search function on the board!

The COMAND system has pretty much always worked the way as you described. If you don't want to hear any audio, you have two obvious choices (well obvious to me):

1) select radio, turn the volume all the way down, enter your destination and you should still hear the voice

2) select aux input, don't plug anything into the aux input, and you won't hear anything but the nav voice

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Thanks scorchie for the info. I just installed the comand recently and still try to figure out how to use the NAV alone without the radio/CD. This info ended my search. Thank you.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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maybe I'm missing something here, I have an '05 E320 CDI with the command and if I want to use the nav without the radio I just hit the nav or map button before turning the radio on, what is so hard about that?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Well, if you have the cd or radio on before. As soon as you hit nav, both nav and radio or cd (whichever you used last) will be on at the same time. You CAN'T just turn on the nav without the other component. Just as scorchie mentioned that you either hit radio and turn down the volume or aux (without any input) after turn on the nav.

You might have a newer comand with more options than my older comand.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Re: W211 Audio Always On

Originally posted by Mavrogenis
Just took delivery of a 2004 E320 with the Premium package which has the Harmon Kardon radio and Navigation system among other neat items. However, I have been unable to figure out how to have the Navigation system On without the radio (or CD) playing. There is nothing in the owner's manual on how to have only the Navigation system on. I've had to resort to using the Mute button to keep the radio (CD) from playing when I only want the Navigation function. Has anyone figured this out?
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I thought Mute was the way to do it. What is the problem with just doing that?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Re: Re: W211 Audio Always On

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I thought Mute was the way to do it. What is the problem with just doing that?
Nothing wrong with that, but a lot of functions reset the mute operation... just tapping a volume button on the steering wheel will cancel mute, for instance. Also turning the car off and coming back.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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I thought Mute was the way to do it. What is the problem with just doing that?
There is another problem with muting while in CD mode. The CD keeps on spinning and spinning and spinning...
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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Thanks to all. it seems that at least the 2004 COMAND system does not allow the audio (any input) to be turned off if NAV is on. It appears that the 2005 included that feature. So for now, the setting the Audio to Aux is the best way to go. I've been startled sometimes when I pressed a volume button on the steering wheel and had the radio suddenly blaring (bad when your significant other is snoozing). Another approach would be to not insert a CD into the single CD slot and select the CD. I was also concerned that if I had a CD selected and muted that it was continuing to run. Can anyone confirm that?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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Yes, if you mute the CD is still playing (unless you stop or pause). If you remove the CD (from the head unit) how can you use NAV (if your comand is CD)? No NAV CD, No NAV.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 01:37 AM
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Yes, if you mute the CD is still playing (unless you stop or pause). If you remove the CD (from the head unit) how can you use NAV (if your comand is CD)? No NAV CD, No NAV.
Are you sure that if you mute the CD it continues to play? Older COMAND and MCS behavior is that mute = PAUSE.

I will go check.

Good thing I checked. On my COMAND in my 2003 car, there is no PAUSE function for either the CD changer or the internal COMAND CD. When pressing MUTE, it does PAUSE the CD. The internal CD seemed to keep spinning while paused, I do not know if spins down at some point; the CD changer spun down immediately when pausing.

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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I'll double check my cd changer tomorrow morning.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Re: Re: Re: W211 Audio Always On

Originally posted by scorchie
Nothing wrong with that, but a lot of functions reset the mute operation... just tapping a volume button on the steering wheel will cancel mute, for instance. Also turning the car off and coming back.

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My Mute function stays muted through car restart just as the volume would if left on...
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: W211 Audio Always On

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My Mute function stays muted through car restart just as the volume would if left on...
Since it may vary from software version and hardware version, it's not a good recommendation. (2003 cars did not come with COMAND.)

So, to address your earlier question: nothing is wrong with using MUTE, but for you. Unless you're concerned with your internal CD still spinning while it is muted.

It's just easier to suggest things to other people that will generally work in all cases for them.

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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Just checked that mute will pause the CD changer. How about the laser beam in the lens? Is there a laser beam there? Will mute also turn it off?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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BTW, my 04 doesn't have an AUX button. It has a SAT button but this just says that "No satellite radio" so it doesn't mute the radio function.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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The Aux button image is displayed on the screen after you select the "Audio" button. You select it by pressing the so called "soft buttons" which are the small black unlabeled buttons at the edge of the screen.
The manual is not real clear about these "soft buttons"
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Mavrogenis
The Aux button image is displayed on the screen after you select the "Audio" button. You select it by pressing the so called "soft buttons" which are the small black unlabeled buttons at the edge of the screen.
The manual is not real clear about these "soft buttons"
Hats off. You are absolutely correct. thanks.
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I think commands controls missleading. Nav button makes us think that it's special device along with tape, CD, TV, or AUX. Generally, it's only display switcher, and it has no relation to audio at all. I hope the explanation helps.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Dema, Did you mean that all the COMAND systems are ON all the time and these buttons (NAV, AUDIO, etc) only switch between them?
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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I think commands controls missleading. Nav button makes us think that it's special device along with tape, CD, TV, or AUX. Generally, it's only display switcher, and it has no relation to audio at all. I hope the explanation helps.
New COMAND fixes that... there's just AUDIO and VIDEO. But in the USA, the SAT button replaces the VIDEO button, and that makes the user interface inconsistent. SAT should really be a choice under AUDIO, like CD, RADIO, etc.

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