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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Question FAQ? COMAND equipped vehicles, how to improve sound quality?

I have a non-Bose '02 C240 retroffitted with an Euro COMAND. Sounds much better than the original car radio, but I am still not happy with the quality of the sound. I do not want it to be any louder than it is, I just want it to sound better. Any FAQ's out there about what can be done (i.e., it is possible to do), and what improvements to expect? Thanks!

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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jules
I have a non-Bose '02 C240 retroffitted with an Euro COMAND. Sounds much better than the original car radio, but I am still not happy with the quality of the sound. I do not want it to be any louder than it is, I just want it to sound better. Any FAQ's out there about what can be done (i.e., it is possible to do), and what improvements to expect? Thanks!
There is nothing you can do to overcome the physics of sound and the shape of a car.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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I think Mercedes has the worst sounding radios/CD players of any car I owned. I think those Mercedes engineers are tone death. The BOSE stereo in my Yukon Denali and my Monte Carlo sounds a whole lot better.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 03:45 AM
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I think Mercedes has the worst sounding radios/CD players of any car I owned. I think those Mercedes engineers are tone death. The BOSE stereo in my Yukon Denali and my Monte Carlo sounds a whole lot better.
And we know why that is ...... both of those cars have 100 pounds less sound insulation. For once I would like someone to take into consideration that sound systems are purely cabin noise and the car is designed to kill cabin noise. Just strip out the interior to Monte Carlo spec and see how it sounds then.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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I believe the goal of the insulation is to filter out the outside noise from getting into the cabin, not filtering the "noise" within the cabin & kill it before it reaches your ears... otherwise you would have to speak very loudly to converse in the car.

Basically the sound systems sound poorly because either ther dont have, amps that can handle highs & lows, enough amp power to make these highs & lows louder, or crummy speakers which arent able to reproduce strong but clean highs & lows, or all three.

Think of how sound insulated, or dead a DJ's studio is, but the music he hears when he's not listening thru headphones sounds phenonmenal, as does the sound going out to your radio, where it is being chopped & murdered.

I agree, most of the MB sound systems are lousy when compared to other car audio systems. Either MB figures it has spent enough money on the car already, and their research shows that their "typical" purchaser will accept this quality sound system, or that this is a good place to save a couple of bucks on the total vehicle cost.

MY HK7 in my '04 E500 was a real surprise to me. It is pretty pleasant to listen to, but it could use more power... not license plate frame rattling loud, just a little more power. Not to mention a more sensitive volume control on the head unit. There is much to much dial rotation for the amount of volume increase given!
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jules
I have a non-Bose '02 C240 retroffitted with an Euro COMAND. Sounds much better than the original car radio, but I am still not happy with the quality of the sound. I do not want it to be any louder than it is, I just want it to sound better. Any FAQ's out there about what can be done (i.e., it is possible to do), and what improvements to expect? Thanks!
So no one has replaced speakers, or added an amp, or anything like that to a COMAND equiped, non-Bose Mercedes sedan?
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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I believe the goal of the insulation is to filter out the outside noise from getting into the cabin, not filtering the "noise" within the cabin & kill it before it reaches your ears... otherwise you would have to speak very loudly to converse in the car.
That must be the reason why squash is played inside jumping castles just as effectively as in concrete rooms.

Noise filtering is a function of transmission. Inside or outside makes no difference as the acoustic voids inside consealed spaces are largely dead. Without some resonance you get limited depth.
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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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So no one has replaced speakers, or added an amp, or anything like that to a COMAND equiped, non-Bose Mercedes sedan?
If you take a BOSE amp and gut it like a fish you can tap into the line level outputs before the power stage and channel this information to a custom amp.
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