Anyone have the vacuum diagram for a W202 C280 (center vent is inop)
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2000 Mercedes Benz C280
location of Vacuum distribution block
Anyone know where the Vacuum distribution block is located? i believe its in the RF wheel panel. Is this correct? please help. im not getting vacuum when i check the Switchover Valve Block.
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2005 G500, 1995 E300D, 1993 500E, 1997 RUF Turbo R
It seems to be a common malady.
But first, check to make sure the thin plastic vacuum line (often white), that runs across the top of the firewall and drops down near the oil filter, hasn't been pulled off where it attaches up and under the intake manifold (about 6" forward of the oil filter). It's a common thing that happens sometimes during oil changes. I found that in my case.
Thanks for any help.
But first, check to make sure the thin plastic vacuum line (often white), that runs across the top of the firewall and drops down near the oil filter, hasn't been pulled off where it attaches up and under the intake manifold (about 6" forward of the oil filter). It's a common thing that happens sometimes during oil changes. I found that in my case.
Thanks for any help.
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C280
Vacuum Leak
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But first, check to make sure the thin plastic vacuum line (often white), that runs across the top of the firewall and drops down near the oil filter, hasn't been pulled off where it attaches up and under the intake manifold (about 6" forward of the oil filter). It's a common thing that happens sometimes during oil changes. I found that in my case.
But first, check to make sure the thin plastic vacuum line (often white), that runs across the top of the firewall and drops down near the oil filter, hasn't been pulled off where it attaches up and under the intake manifold (about 6" forward of the oil filter). It's a common thing that happens sometimes during oil changes. I found that in my case.
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1999 C280
Vacuum Line part
Does anyone know what this part calls? This got detached from the white vacuum line.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
It seems to be a common malady.
I've done a lot of reading about it. As example, this thread: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...850#post295850
But first, check to make sure the thin plastic vacuum line (often white), that runs across the top of the firewall and drops down near the oil filter, hasn't been pulled off where it attaches up and under the intake manifold (about 6" forward of the oil filter). It's a common thing that happens sometimes during oil changes. I found that in my case.
Now I also suspect a leaking vacuum line. Apparently some cars have a vacuum distribution manifold of some sort (perhaps in the RF wheel well) but before I just start tearing into things, I wanted to see a diagram of the entire vacuum system. Something similar to this from another MBZ forum: http://www.mercedesforum.com/upfiles...BF6675606E.jpg, but with info beyond just the door locks.
Thanks for any help.
I've done a lot of reading about it. As example, this thread: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...850#post295850
But first, check to make sure the thin plastic vacuum line (often white), that runs across the top of the firewall and drops down near the oil filter, hasn't been pulled off where it attaches up and under the intake manifold (about 6" forward of the oil filter). It's a common thing that happens sometimes during oil changes. I found that in my case.
Now I also suspect a leaking vacuum line. Apparently some cars have a vacuum distribution manifold of some sort (perhaps in the RF wheel well) but before I just start tearing into things, I wanted to see a diagram of the entire vacuum system. Something similar to this from another MBZ forum: http://www.mercedesforum.com/upfiles...BF6675606E.jpg, but with info beyond just the door locks.
Thanks for any help.
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1995 c280
check here:
http://mb.ilcats.ru/part/class/1/cco...e/029/group/80
might be able to identify your parts
http://mb.ilcats.ru/part/class/1/cco...e/029/group/80
might be able to identify your parts
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w202
white tube
i am having issue with rough idle and it was posted somewhere to check the vacuum lines. no i detached the white tube the one coming from the inlet manifold, sucked the air out and it appeared not to hold the vacuum.
* can this cause rough idle?
* where does that tube end?
please help i am desperate.
i have c280 elegance 1995, and i live in Sydney Australia.
* can this cause rough idle?
* where does that tube end?
please help i am desperate.
i have c280 elegance 1995, and i live in Sydney Australia.
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From: Surrey, BC, CANADA
1995 c280
i am having issue with rough idle and it was posted somewhere to check the vacuum lines. no i detached the white tube the one coming from the inlet manifold, sucked the air out and it appeared not to hold the vacuum.
* can this cause rough idle?
* where does that tube end?
please help i am desperate.
i have c280 elegance 1995, and i live in Sydney Australia.
* can this cause rough idle?
* where does that tube end?
please help i am desperate.
i have c280 elegance 1995, and i live in Sydney Australia.
I have a schematic somewhere, ill check tomorrow, see if i can find it.
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w202
FIXED IT.
hair line crack at the vacuum manifold vacuum manifold. also, the previous mechanic decided to swap the pins for the MAF, that is way it always faile.
superglued the crack, put the pins in their correct order and surprise surprise it works perfect. will drive it tomorrow to work with a big smile.
thanks everyone.
hair line crack at the vacuum manifold vacuum manifold. also, the previous mechanic decided to swap the pins for the MAF, that is way it always faile.
superglued the crack, put the pins in their correct order and surprise surprise it works perfect. will drive it tomorrow to work with a big smile.
thanks everyone.
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C230
1998 C230
As numerous people have commented, I have the same problem with the center vent.
I did a system recharge and it worked fine for awhile, and thought that was the cure.
Now, it's back again, and I am just putting up with it, as it really isn't that inconvenient.
Reading all the posts for the "cure", I just want to verify that if I remove the glove box, I can see the distribution vacuum unit that is referred to, and the line that can be clamped off? If that is correct, I will pull the glove compartment this weekend and give it a shot.
Thanks
As numerous people have commented, I have the same problem with the center vent.
I did a system recharge and it worked fine for awhile, and thought that was the cure.
Now, it's back again, and I am just putting up with it, as it really isn't that inconvenient.
Reading all the posts for the "cure", I just want to verify that if I remove the glove box, I can see the distribution vacuum unit that is referred to, and the line that can be clamped off? If that is correct, I will pull the glove compartment this weekend and give it a shot.
Thanks
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1995 c280
What do you mean by "system recharge"?
If interested i made 2 complete videos of dash removal and vacuum element fix on recir/fresh air intake. This might help you ...
If interested i made 2 complete videos of dash removal and vacuum element fix on recir/fresh air intake. This might help you ...
Last edited by andy_1100; Nov 20, 2015 at 04:59 PM. Reason: link update
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C230
I meant that I recharged the air condition system with refrigerant.
Thanks for the videos. I will watch them with great interest, as sight unseen, something eventually gets screwed up along the way.
I will post the results.
Thanks again
Thanks for the videos. I will watch them with great interest, as sight unseen, something eventually gets screwed up along the way.
I will post the results.
Thanks again
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C230
I watched both videos, and here is my question?
When you installed the new vacuum element, you needed to disconnect the passenger side air bag and remove it to get access to the pump. My question is, can the airbag removal screws not be accessed after removing the glove box and either slide it out through the glove box opening, or move it around a bit under the dash to access the pump? It would seem that the airbag is a smaller width than the the glove box, so it would seem possible, rather than pulling the whole dash out?
I just saw your located in Surrey, and that is where I lived on 64th Ave. Now, I live in Central America.
When you installed the new vacuum element, you needed to disconnect the passenger side air bag and remove it to get access to the pump. My question is, can the airbag removal screws not be accessed after removing the glove box and either slide it out through the glove box opening, or move it around a bit under the dash to access the pump? It would seem that the airbag is a smaller width than the the glove box, so it would seem possible, rather than pulling the whole dash out?
I just saw your located in Surrey, and that is where I lived on 64th Ave. Now, I live in Central America.
Last edited by ptcruiser; Nov 21, 2015 at 11:57 AM. Reason: Added comment
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ML350 4Matic and CLK 430
All vents go to defrost with accelerwtion
All my air directs to the defroster vents when accelerating. Then all goes back to normal. My center vents work just fine. Flap test went fine too from what i can tell. (all vents distribute air the way they should)
Any thoughts on what this could be?
The most obvious line by the MAF is brand new and connected. Also I blew air into the line that goes to the canister in the passenger foot well and didn't hear any leaks. Not sure if that matters.
I also got into the passenger foot well by the blower motor and slightly removed (decamped) the switchover valve to listen for leaks buy could not hear anything. Seems all is fine there since all vents work anyhow.
Since this happens to all vents what do you all think?
Seems like a common issue with many makes of cars. Not just Mercedes.
Any thoughts on what this could be?
The most obvious line by the MAF is brand new and connected. Also I blew air into the line that goes to the canister in the passenger foot well and didn't hear any leaks. Not sure if that matters.
I also got into the passenger foot well by the blower motor and slightly removed (decamped) the switchover valve to listen for leaks buy could not hear anything. Seems all is fine there since all vents work anyhow.
Since this happens to all vents what do you all think?
Seems like a common issue with many makes of cars. Not just Mercedes.
Last edited by johnnr; Mar 19, 2017 at 10:51 PM. Reason: Additional info..
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From: Orange County, CA
ML350 4Matic and CLK 430
vacuum issue
It's a w208. Clk 430.
I think the vacuum schematics are similar to the 202s.
I do think it's the vacuum canister (distributor) in the passenger fender. I'm taking it to the dealer because I've had no luck with Indys.
I will try and direct the dealer to look at this part first but I'm fearing their diagnosis will include parts I don't need.
I think the vacuum schematics are similar to the 202s.
I do think it's the vacuum canister (distributor) in the passenger fender. I'm taking it to the dealer because I've had no luck with Indys.
I will try and direct the dealer to look at this part first but I'm fearing their diagnosis will include parts I don't need.
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1995 c280
I keep thinking what can cause this problem, im really intrigued.
So far this is what i can formulate:
1. This is counterintuitive but, the vacuum created by engine intake drops with rpm going up.
I think you have a very small leak, at engine idle the vaccum is enough to switch all deflectors to a desired position. As you start driving the vaccum drops down causing all deflectors to go to a default position.
It seems like you gonna have some tough time since the leak is not obvious. Pay attension to the line connections, on my w140 I had an end of a connector break causing my trunk soft close to operate kind of only for 50%.
From what I've read, one of main suspects when you have a leak is the manifold under the hood, there's a steel ball pressed in and the plastic manifold tends to develop a hairline crack.
Another question...do you hear your vacuum pump constantly cicling?
So far this is what i can formulate:
1. This is counterintuitive but, the vacuum created by engine intake drops with rpm going up.
I think you have a very small leak, at engine idle the vaccum is enough to switch all deflectors to a desired position. As you start driving the vaccum drops down causing all deflectors to go to a default position.
It seems like you gonna have some tough time since the leak is not obvious. Pay attension to the line connections, on my w140 I had an end of a connector break causing my trunk soft close to operate kind of only for 50%.
From what I've read, one of main suspects when you have a leak is the manifold under the hood, there's a steel ball pressed in and the plastic manifold tends to develop a hairline crack.
Another question...do you hear your vacuum pump constantly cicling?
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From: Orange County, CA
ML350 4Matic and CLK 430
Vacuum issue
Thanks for these tbiughts/ideas! The vacuum pump, if you mean the PSE in the trunk is just fine. It only works for.a little bit when using multi contour seats or unlocking various elements. It's likely not the culprit.
I am thinking since the impact is to ALL the vents, that distributor canister in the fender is the culprit, especially since the hose from the engine area by the MAF was just replaced.
It's at the dealer... Crossing my fingers here! I try to avoid the dealer but in my experience with some items, they are better equipped to handle/assess.
I am thinking since the impact is to ALL the vents, that distributor canister in the fender is the culprit, especially since the hose from the engine area by the MAF was just replaced.
It's at the dealer... Crossing my fingers here! I try to avoid the dealer but in my experience with some items, they are better equipped to handle/assess.
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ML350 4Matic and CLK 430
Dealer assessment
Well, the dealer identified the switch box in the foot well area as a culprit, and that they then need to test each vacuum line because at least on is bad in the dash.
However, what doesn't make sense is why do ALL the vents work fine until I accelerate. Since all vents work fine until then, wouldn't that rule out anything beyond a main vacuum line (e.g. That cannister/ distributor in the passenger fender?)
Does anyone know the actual purpose of the canister/distributor in the fender?
However, what doesn't make sense is why do ALL the vents work fine until I accelerate. Since all vents work fine until then, wouldn't that rule out anything beyond a main vacuum line (e.g. That cannister/ distributor in the passenger fender?)
Does anyone know the actual purpose of the canister/distributor in the fender?
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ML350 4Matic and CLK 430
Dealer checked that canister (distribution block?) in the fender as well since I pushed the ask a little more.
I am told the canister is fine... so I guess their assessment of a vacuum leak within the dash, being the main culprit, is plausible.
All in all, if the only issue is me losing full blast air for a few seconds while accelerating, I'm going to leave it be. I don't want to take apart the dash, the issue isn't significant enough to warrant that. And I definitely don't want to crack or tear my dashboard!
dealer did advise, if and when I do want to replace those elements in the dash, may as well replace them all to avoid future elements that are old, to be replaced and then go back into the dash.
I am told the canister is fine... so I guess their assessment of a vacuum leak within the dash, being the main culprit, is plausible.
All in all, if the only issue is me losing full blast air for a few seconds while accelerating, I'm going to leave it be. I don't want to take apart the dash, the issue isn't significant enough to warrant that. And I definitely don't want to crack or tear my dashboard!
dealer did advise, if and when I do want to replace those elements in the dash, may as well replace them all to avoid future elements that are old, to be replaced and then go back into the dash.
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From: Surrey, BC, CANADA
1995 c280
I don't want to put any doubt in your soul....I had a bad vacuum actuator that operates the fresh air intake flap, it operates in 2 directions and has 2 bellows inside. So one of the bellows had a rip in it and this was on the side that closes the flap when you turn off the climate control (press 0). So anytime I'd press 0 on the controls my vacuum pump would starts cicling every 5 sec trying to keep up the vacuum.
If one of this vacuum actuators has failed on your car you can easily find this, all you need is a vacuum pump from Harbour Freight Tools and maybe an HR of your time.
Pull every line of the manifold under your glove compartment and test for leak.
Like I said, Im really intrigued by this problem, keep this updated if you finally find the cause.
If one of this vacuum actuators has failed on your car you can easily find this, all you need is a vacuum pump from Harbour Freight Tools and maybe an HR of your time.
Pull every line of the manifold under your glove compartment and test for leak.
Like I said, Im really intrigued by this problem, keep this updated if you finally find the cause.
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From: Lima
W202 C280
White transparent tube
I keep thinking what can cause this problem, im really intrigued.
So far this is what i can formulate:
1. This is counterintuitive but, the vacuum created by engine intake drops with rpm going up.
I think you have a very small leak, at engine idle the vaccum is enough to switch all deflectors to a desired position. As you start driving the vaccum drops down causing all deflectors to go to a default position.
It seems like you gonna have some tough time since the leak is not obvious. Pay attension to the line connections, on my w140 I had an end of a connector break causing my trunk soft close to operate kind of only for 50%.
From what I've read, one of main suspects when you have a leak is the manifold under the hood, there's a steel ball pressed in and the plastic manifold tends to develop a hairline crack.
Another question...do you hear your vacuum pump constantly cicling?
So far this is what i can formulate:
1. This is counterintuitive but, the vacuum created by engine intake drops with rpm going up.
I think you have a very small leak, at engine idle the vaccum is enough to switch all deflectors to a desired position. As you start driving the vaccum drops down causing all deflectors to go to a default position.
It seems like you gonna have some tough time since the leak is not obvious. Pay attension to the line connections, on my w140 I had an end of a connector break causing my trunk soft close to operate kind of only for 50%.
From what I've read, one of main suspects when you have a leak is the manifold under the hood, there's a steel ball pressed in and the plastic manifold tends to develop a hairline crack.
Another question...do you hear your vacuum pump constantly cicling?
a few years I asked you for the back lights (R) diagram, well not lucky with that diagram, but today I have some issue and have the same problem with the Vacuum system, I have only air for the defrost vent, and can’t close the recycling air, today I’m gonna have some time to see the problem and maybe un assembly some plastic parts to find the problem, off course up pics and videos.
ps thks for all videos
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From: MELBOURNE VICTORIA AUSTRALIA
w2010 w204 c300 amg sports package
hi guys i have a w203 c200k and have the grey vacuum line loose , i can see where it comes from but i cant seem to find where it connects to
i am from Australia so its RHD and the vacuum line for RHD connects somewhere near the firewall on the right side of the car near the fuse box
can anyone help me
i am fairly new to this site and io did try a search for vacuum line w203 but only found thissite
i am from Australia so its RHD and the vacuum line for RHD connects somewhere near the firewall on the right side of the car near the fuse box
can anyone help me
i am fairly new to this site and io did try a search for vacuum line w203 but only found thissite
