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'96 C280 Engine Issues (idle,throttle,acceleration). Help!!

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Old 05-13-2008, 03:42 PM
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'96 C280 Engine Issues (idle,throttle,acceleration). Help!!

I own a '96 C280 with 120k miles and have recently been having a problem with the engine. Intermittently, the engine:

1) revs the RPM's while at a complete stop; or
2) cuts out during acceleration or at speed.

I've been searching the forum posts for the last several weeks and the general diagnosis for this type of problem is that it's the Engine Wiring Harness, Coil Packs, or MAF.

Since it appears to be the most common issue, I started with the Engine Wiring Harness. But, after checking the exposed sections of my harness it appears to be in pretty good shape (unlike the rotting/cracking pictures in other posts). I bought the car from a MB dealer in '98 with 30k miles on it, so the dealer may have already replaced the faulty harness.

Second, I replaced the spark plugs and cleaned the coils and MAF. Although this gave the car more pep, it doesn't appear to have cured the problem. Plus, I don't think it's a shorted coil pack since the car has a pretty smooth idle generally (other than problem #1).

I haven't been able to run a OBDII diagnostic test yet (not that those codes ever do me much good), but the only visually obvious engine issue is a leaky head gasket (leaking in the very front of the engine). Is it possible that the oil from the leaky head gasket is interfering with an electrical sensor (injectors or air)? Before changing the spark plugs I cleaned and degreased the engine so its pretty clean now but still has the same issues.

Please help. I'm fairly new to the DIY game, but can't fathom taking it to the dealer where they'll charge me more than the car is worth.

Thanks!!
Old 05-15-2008, 08:33 AM
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i have driven 2 c280's. a '96 and '97. im very familiar with the i-6 motors. both of mine ended up doing something similar to what you described. the car would drop power during hard acceleration and then it would run all rough until i cycled the ignition again. the cel would come on but the codes didnt point to the problem. 99% of the time these misfiring issues are caused by the ignition coils, i had to replace all 3 coils on both my c280's. my first one reached 180k miles and the second reached 150k miles before being decomissioned. both of them had this issue at around 120k. also both of them had the leaking headgasket, you should check on that too it likes to leak on the back side of the motor on the driver side i believe.
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I had a similar problem with mine........it was the accelerator actuator that was pressing a wire to touch one another...that would replicate in erratically information going to ECU, and the car wouldn't work right......

changed the L5 wire under the engine, this is part of the wiring harness problem........you can actually exam the whole thing, with no apparent problems, but the dysfunction is there..........
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RE: '96 C280 Engine Issues (idle,throttle,acceleration)

Update: Following some advice, I changed the fuel pump relay ($25 @ autohausaz.com). This appears to have solved my initial two problems mentioned above (i.e. revs the RPM's while at a complete stop; or cuts out during acceleration or at speed), but now the car is suffering from two new issues:

1) Immediately after starting car RPM's fluctuate up and down (is "hunting" the correct term?). No roughness to it, just constant fluctuation between 500 and 1,500 RPM. Upon shifting out of "Park" this goes away, but returns upon next ignition start.
2) Upon heavy acceleration (usually from a complete stop) the engine will hesitate (maybe rumble a little) then kick in. No hesitation at normal throttle while moving.

I researched these issues and thought it may be the Overload Protection Relay so I replaced it ($58 @ autohausaz), which doesn't appear to have helped. I finally pulled the codes which revealed P0301 (misfire cyl. 1) and P0101 (MAF discrepancy). I'm hesitant to include the codes on this posting because I don't know how old they may be and I'd prefer advice based primarily off of the symptoms rather than codes (FYI... per previous post I did clean the MAF, but only want to replace it as a last resort $$$).

Thanks again for your help! All of your advice is very much appreciated and I feel that I've already learned a ton from y'all about DYI car repair. Please let me know if you have any ideas on the new issues.

Thanks,
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RE: '96 C280 Engine Issues (idle,throttle,acceleration). Help!!

Remedy: After changing the fuel pump relay, overload protection relay, and fuel filter, to no avail, I finally got a new MAF. Replacing my MAF fixed the "hunting" idle and delayed acceleration issues. Work Time: 5 minutes; Cost: $184.37... Yippee!!

Special Thanks to all who contributed to help me diagnose the problem!
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Where did you buy the maf and was it new?

Originally Posted by sideshow76
Remedy: After changing the fuel pump relay, overload protection relay, and fuel filter, to no avail, I finally got a new MAF. Replacing my MAF fixed the "hunting" idle and delayed acceleration issues. Work Time: 5 minutes; Cost: $184.37... Yippee!!

Special Thanks to all who contributed to help me diagnose the problem!
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I believe it was new. looked new, works great.

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