Rincewind

anyone use these? are they good quality?
I only found a few places selling them and they were 25 bucks... expensive :/

http://www.bmw330ci.com/DIY_Silvervision.htm

AdamsC280

Nice. I like em. 25 bones for a pair?

Rincewind

yea 25 for a pair.

kinda expensive for just turn signal bulbs

I'll get em, but i'd like to know if anyone else has em. good quality? last long? any probs?

Rincewind

ooo... its expensive cause its not available in the US yet. only 2 or 3 places sell them to US from europe.

tpliquid

i think
www.autowerksexpress.com sells them

KurumaGOD

Looks good...but I like the PIAA ones better tho...except that they are illegal...

pluggers

Why not just go and buy some LED's instead,they last longer and aren't prone to burning out.You should find some at
http://www.formymercedes.com/mb_resu...lacement+Bulbs
You can get them for indicators and tail lights.

DougandhisC280

I just got on here to suggest that. Thanks, Pluggers

Rincewind

hmm.

the LEDS run on the same wire connected to the bulb holders of turn signals? I dont want to do anything more then unscrewing my old bulb and screwing on new one

also, since there is "amber" LED front turn signals. does that mean they look "amber" as well? I'm going for the clear look, but want it to blink amber, so I am legal on the road and stuff.

DougandhisC280

You use the same holder. All you add is one little wire that has a mini trasformer in it so your bulb failure light doesn't come on. They look clear when not on. It's much better than those silver painted bulbs.

Rincewind

I havent seen too many of these on the road. Are they the fast blinking ones? I like the normal blink speed. If I get these will I have a choice of the blink speed?

Also that minitransformer thing, is that a seperate item you purchase along with the LEDS? I'm looking at that right now and it says you have to splice some wires and stuff...

tpliquid

i do not recommend those LED lights. they are sucky. i used them on my car for abuot 30 seconds. they blinked super fast. dotn coem on when the parking lights came on. and u only see the LEDs u dont see the reflection. i mean the regular bulb uses the reflectors to make it brighter.

DougandhisC280

The wire that you splice in makes it blink normally. TP does have a point about the reflector though. It flashes straight forward instead of all around.

Rincewind

The osram and phillips silver vision bulbs are single filament.. what exactly does that mean? I read somewhere because of singlefilament turn signal bulbs, you lose the parking light feature. what the heck is that anyway? :P

DougandhisC280

You can't use it if it's single filament. The filament is the tiny metal spring inside the bulb that lights up. You have one filament for the blink feature and one that is steady for the parking light. Your headlights are the same way. (high beam/ low beam.)

scorchie

Yeah I put them in the taillights of various cars and instead of a fully lighted taillight, I got a little circle lighted up on the taillight lens.

All the ML owners on Benzworld seem to be really hip on them, so somehow I think that their requirements for their cars are a little different than everyone else's on MBworld and Benzworld. Hmm.

-s-

scorchie

The parking light feature is those lights in your corners that are always on when your headlight switch is at first or second click. They glow amber. Then when the turn signal is activated, it blinks brighter.

With the single filament bulbs, you have a couple problems.

1) the pins don't line up... or maybe they do, I forget. It depends on the car. Some Mercedes use PY21W for the indicators, others use 1157NA. I've even run into one (my G500) that uses an 1156NA for the indicator... weird. The difference between the P-series bulbs and the 115x series bulbs is the way the pins are aligned (not to mention an extra dollar a pair for the European style).

So how can one fix the pin issue? The correct way is to fit the correct sockets for the bulbs you want to use. On the M-class, this is simple, because the socket plugs into the harness and you just use the right socket. On the C-class, I forget how it works. The other way to fix it is to grind one of the offending pins off the light. Bad thing about this is you have to make sure you do the right pin or it might not fit in properly.

2) if you do use a single filament bulb, you lose your amber corners. This is because in Europe, most of the cars use a "city light". You can fit this city light into your headlight. This will only bring your car into partial compliance though with US DOT requirements. Your front amber side marker will still be missing. If you've switched to clear corners, you're already breaking the law by removing the front amber reflector, so you should have no qualms about going further. Just be aware that you may get a ticket, or if you have inspections in your state, you may not pass.

-s-