Comand Install Issues
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Comand Install Issues
Ok, just finished installing the 463 Comand in my 203, I did everything just as was written up on various posts.
Ran the Speed Wire from under fuse con. 24 pin 3 to C2 Pin 6
Changed the Gyro
A couple of issue that I have questions on, I disconnected the battery prior to doing the install (I have the sun roof open because of light). Did the install now after I put all the connections back and reconnected the battery the sunroof does not close. The black screen closes like it thinks that the sunroof is already closed.
Also the Audio on the HUD on the cluster does not show anything but --- and the tel show --- (Used to say No Tel).
Any ideas?
Ran the Speed Wire from under fuse con. 24 pin 3 to C2 Pin 6
Changed the Gyro
A couple of issue that I have questions on, I disconnected the battery prior to doing the install (I have the sun roof open because of light). Did the install now after I put all the connections back and reconnected the battery the sunroof does not close. The black screen closes like it thinks that the sunroof is already closed.
Also the Audio on the HUD on the cluster does not show anything but --- and the tel show --- (Used to say No Tel).
Any ideas?
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1) you should never disconnect the battery unless you have the equipment to reprogram the car. And even if you do have the equipment, you still shouldn't disconnect it unless you absolutely have to, because you will spend a lot of time fixing the programming
2) sounds like you have a CANBUS error. You probably hooked some wires up wrong (even if you did it exactly by the instructions... the instructions might be wrong). I know people who SWEAR up and down that they hooked it up correctly and it doesn't work... so we redo it and it works great
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2) sounds like you have a CANBUS error. You probably hooked some wires up wrong (even if you did it exactly by the instructions... the instructions might be wrong). I know people who SWEAR up and down that they hooked it up correctly and it doesn't work... so we redo it and it works great
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Originally Posted by TNStangman
So if my battery dies I have to reprogram the car when I replace it?
I will resolder the CAN Bus connections to see if that helps. Any ideas on the SunRoof.
I will resolder the CAN Bus connections to see if that helps. Any ideas on the SunRoof.
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Originally Posted by TNStangman
Ok, just finished installing the 463 Comand in my 203, I did everything just as was written up on various posts.
Ran the Speed Wire from under fuse con. 24 pin 3 to C2 Pin 6
Changed the Gyro
A couple of issue that I have questions on, I disconnected the battery prior to doing the install (I have the sun roof open because of light). Did the install now after I put all the connections back and reconnected the battery the sunroof does not close. The black screen closes like it thinks that the sunroof is already closed.
Also the Audio on the HUD on the cluster does not show anything but --- and the tel show --- (Used to say No Tel).
Any ideas?
Ran the Speed Wire from under fuse con. 24 pin 3 to C2 Pin 6
Changed the Gyro
A couple of issue that I have questions on, I disconnected the battery prior to doing the install (I have the sun roof open because of light). Did the install now after I put all the connections back and reconnected the battery the sunroof does not close. The black screen closes like it thinks that the sunroof is already closed.
Also the Audio on the HUD on the cluster does not show anything but --- and the tel show --- (Used to say No Tel).
Any ideas?
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Got it, I resoldered my canbus splice and then it worked. I SWEAR I am a good solderer 
. The sun roof amounted to reprogramming via this method.
(Because it was in an open state I closed it manually) then,
Close the shade fully. Then open the Shade. Then open the Sun Roof, it stops about every 6 inches on its way back until it hits the fully open pos. Once you have done this the computer knows where the half way point it and fully open. After that it works as it was supposed to.
. The sun roof amounted to reprogramming via this method.(Because it was in an open state I closed it manually) then,
Close the shade fully. Then open the Shade. Then open the Sun Roof, it stops about every 6 inches on its way back until it hits the fully open pos. Once you have done this the computer knows where the half way point it and fully open. After that it works as it was supposed to.
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In response it the Solder. I use crimped at the connector but because I bought a C1 C2 cable harness I spliced in the C cables into the C1 C2 harness, I solder the splice, heat shrink it, then electrical tape wrap it. I figured it will last a long time this way.
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Originally Posted by TNStangman
So if my battery dies I have to reprogram the car when I replace it?
I will resolder the CAN Bus connections to see if that helps. Any ideas on the SunRoof.
I will resolder the CAN Bus connections to see if that helps. Any ideas on the SunRoof.
Sunroof is something you apparently figured out by searching, because almost all answers are here if you look!
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Originally Posted by bryanm
You will find step-by-step instructions in your owners manual on how to reset everything after a battery disconnect. Items included: ESP, windows, sunroof, etc.
There are just good reasons not to power down unless it is warranted and can not be avoided.
The car has in its system sequential shutdown. This means that you will lose functions in stages. First the radio, then the air-con then motor start, last of all the drivers window will drop and then its nearly a dead battery.
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If your battery dies your car is too old and should be dispensed with immediately, a sign that only bad things will happen in the future. As for disconnecting the battery, nothing wrong with that. Just cycle the power windows and sunroof switch closed for a few seconds and turn the steering wheel lock to lock twice.
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
If your battery dies your car is too old and should be dispensed with immediately, a sign that only bad things will happen in the future. As for disconnecting the battery, nothing wrong with that. Just cycle the power windows and sunroof switch closed for a few seconds and turn the steering wheel lock to lock twice.
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So you can hook up the speed wire directly to a fuse without having to use a canbus adapter? Reason I asked was I have an aftermarket NAV and bought the canbus adapter from soundgate.com ($200), if there is no use of the adapter I would rather return it. Can someone please clarify it for me?
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Originally Posted by I KOMPRZ
So you can hook up the speed wire directly to a fuse without having to use a canbus adapter? Reason I asked was I have an aftermarket NAV and bought the canbus adapter from soundgate.com ($200), if there is no use of the adapter I would rather return it. Can someone please clarify it for me?
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ght=463+comand
I wouldnt tell you so if it wasnt true.
By the way .... its not a fuse. Its a location in the fuse box where data comes out (underside). Big difference.
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You know the funny thing is, every time I work on a car the write up always says disconnect the battery which I never do because its boilerplate and most of the time you aren't doing anything major to the electrical.
Even when I was following the WIS it said disconnect the battery (now I see why anyway they have the tools to reprogram) but when I was pulling the fuse box apart I thought to myself wow this is major electrical and I better disconnect the battery. Well you learn. So far the car is working fine after I figured out the sunroof part. I hope this thread serves to educate those in the future doing the comand mod not to follow the WIS instructions completly.
Thanks everyone
Even when I was following the WIS it said disconnect the battery (now I see why anyway they have the tools to reprogram) but when I was pulling the fuse box apart I thought to myself wow this is major electrical and I better disconnect the battery. Well you learn. So far the car is working fine after I figured out the sunroof part. I hope this thread serves to educate those in the future doing the comand mod not to follow the WIS instructions completly.
Thanks everyone
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Originally Posted by TNStangman
You know the funny thing is, every time I work on a car the write up always says disconnect the battery which I never do because its boilerplate and most of the time you aren't doing anything major to the electrical.
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I have disconnected my battery at least 20 times over the last 3 years with no problems. I even short the positive battery cable to ground to make sure the residual charge is bled off. Never had any issues other than having to cycle the sunroof through its travel and steering wheel lock to lock.
Can't see how disconnecting a battery is going to damage the W203.
Can't see how disconnecting a battery is going to damage the W203.
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Originally Posted by miroj
.. its like $3 and 1 hour (the first time).
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ght=463+comand
I wouldnt tell you so if it wasnt true.
By the way .... its not a fuse. Its a location in the fuse box where data comes out (underside). Big difference.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ght=463+comand
I wouldnt tell you so if it wasnt true.
By the way .... its not a fuse. Its a location in the fuse box where data comes out (underside). Big difference.
2). Also, my installer installed my Eclipse AVN2454, there are so many problems. First there are no backlights on the side panel buttons on the unit..at night I just cant see *****! Second, since there are no backlights, the auto dim on the screen doesnt work when headlight is turned on- so damn bright driving at night I had to manually adjust the brightness - thats lame. Third, the DVD has no video on screen, just audio. He grounded the wire that was supposed to hook up to the P-brake, I dont know if this unit actually needs a relay like some of the alpines. Forth, the NAV is not working (can not do a route) becoz the canbus adapter has not been put on (he doesnt know which wire goes to where, so he had to call his tech on Mon) - see if the speed wire can really hook up to the location metioned from the above posts...then that will solve this problem and save me $200 for the canbus adapter. Can somebody tell if all these sound like an installation problem (like he may have miswired some of the connections?) or would it be the head unit itself? I know he used a VW harness...I remember its VW01B - maybe some wires were hooked up wrong so theres no backlight and the dim wont work? PLEASE HELP! BTW, on the cluster, now on the AUDIO page displays "----" and on TEL "----" instead of "NO TEL".
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Originally Posted by I KOMPRZ
1). Ok so I read from the link, but is it true only for COMAND or any aftermarket unit's speed wire can hook up to the same location?
2). Also, my installer installed my Eclipse AVN2454, there are so many problems. First there are no backlights on the side panel buttons on the unit..at night I just cant see *****! Second, since there are no backlights, the auto dim on the screen doesnt work when headlight is turned on- so damn bright driving at night I had to manually adjust the brightness - thats lame. Third, the DVD has no video on screen, just audio. He grounded the wire that was supposed to hook up to the P-brake, I dont know if this unit actually needs a relay like some of the alpines. Forth, the NAV is not working (can not do a route) becoz the canbus adapter has not been put on (he doesnt know which wire goes to where, so he had to call his tech on Mon) - see if the speed wire can really hook up to the location metioned from the above posts...then that will solve this problem and save me $200 for the canbus adapter. Can somebody tell if all these sound like an installation problem (like he may have miswired some of the connections?) or would it be the head unit itself? I know he used a VW harness...I remember its VW01B - maybe some wires were hooked up wrong so theres no backlight and the dim wont work? PLEASE HELP! BTW, on the cluster, now on the AUDIO page displays "----" and on TEL "----" instead of "NO TEL".
2). Also, my installer installed my Eclipse AVN2454, there are so many problems. First there are no backlights on the side panel buttons on the unit..at night I just cant see *****! Second, since there are no backlights, the auto dim on the screen doesnt work when headlight is turned on- so damn bright driving at night I had to manually adjust the brightness - thats lame. Third, the DVD has no video on screen, just audio. He grounded the wire that was supposed to hook up to the P-brake, I dont know if this unit actually needs a relay like some of the alpines. Forth, the NAV is not working (can not do a route) becoz the canbus adapter has not been put on (he doesnt know which wire goes to where, so he had to call his tech on Mon) - see if the speed wire can really hook up to the location metioned from the above posts...then that will solve this problem and save me $200 for the canbus adapter. Can somebody tell if all these sound like an installation problem (like he may have miswired some of the connections?) or would it be the head unit itself? I know he used a VW harness...I remember its VW01B - maybe some wires were hooked up wrong so theres no backlight and the dim wont work? PLEASE HELP! BTW, on the cluster, now on the AUDIO page displays "----" and on TEL "----" instead of "NO TEL".
Are you sure this unit can be controlled from the steering wheel ?
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Originally Posted by TNStangman
You know the funny thing is, every time I work on a car the write up always says disconnect the battery which I never do because its boilerplate and most of the time you aren't doing anything major to the electrical.
Even when I was following the WIS it said disconnect the battery (now I see why anyway they have the tools to reprogram) but when I was pulling the fuse box apart I thought to myself wow this is major electrical and I better disconnect the battery. Well you learn. So far the car is working fine after I figured out the sunroof part. I hope this thread serves to educate those in the future doing the comand mod not to follow the WIS instructions completly.
Thanks everyone
Even when I was following the WIS it said disconnect the battery (now I see why anyway they have the tools to reprogram) but when I was pulling the fuse box apart I thought to myself wow this is major electrical and I better disconnect the battery. Well you learn. So far the car is working fine after I figured out the sunroof part. I hope this thread serves to educate those in the future doing the comand mod not to follow the WIS instructions completly.
Thanks everyone
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Originally Posted by miroj
Aftermarket stuff needs an adapter and wiring order is quite important. From the error I would say that you are dont have a CAN adapter.
Are you sure this unit can be controlled from the steering wheel ?
Are you sure this unit can be controlled from the steering wheel ?
No I am sure the unit wont be compatible with the steering control, just wanna know if its an installation problem I am having or a malfunction head unit I have.
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Originally Posted by I KOMPRZ
No I am sure the unit wont be compatible with the steering control, just wanna know if its an installation problem I am having or a malfunction head unit I have.
At this point it seems to me you dont have any adaptor for the head unit - usually it gives the following outputs to headunit.
- illumination
- speed pulse.
- reverse signal
If it has some additional capacity then it will help with the steering controls also. Usually that would be an adapter made FOR THE HEAD UNIT so it is matched.
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Thanks for the response.,..I guess my best bet is to take it back to the shop and have them re check everything thing they did.
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Ok I feel kina bad stealing someone's post...but I finally got things fixed. Turns out the installer misconnected some wires....now everything works fine except hes still trying to find out how to install my canbus adapter for the speed wire. Can anyone tell me which color wire is for high canbus and which one is low so I can tell my installer? Thanks
