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Old 03-10-2005, 01:08 AM
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auto windows/sunroof close when it rains?

my car has the rain sensing windshield wipers, is the car supposed to close the windows and sunroof when it detects rain? is this something the dealer has to program? my car is going in the shop saturday to have them disable the "no phone" message in the obc, i'm gonna see if they can get the windows to close when it rains too.

i know on most bmw's with rain sensing rearview mirror it closes them.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
my car has the rain sensing windshield wipers, is the car supposed to close the windows and sunroof when it detects rain? is this something the dealer has to program? my car is going in the shop saturday to have them disable the "no phone" message in the obc, i'm gonna see if they can get the windows to close when it rains too.

i know on most bmw's with rain sensing rearview mirror it closes them.
I use to wonder the same thing...it would not be a difficult feature to develop, may be in the future. But to answer your question - no, it does not close when rain hits the sensor.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
my car has the rain sensing windshield wipers, is the car supposed to close the windows and sunroof when it detects rain? is this something the dealer has to program? my car is going in the shop saturday to have them disable the "no phone" message in the obc, i'm gonna see if they can get the windows to close when it rains too.

i know on most bmw's with rain sensing rearview mirror it closes them.
that would be a cool feature. as for the "no phone" message, let us know how that goes, I didn't know that you could disable that. if it works out fine, I'll have them do that to mine as well. tell me more about what they do! thanks!
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
that would be a cool feature. as for the "no phone" message, let us know how that goes, I didn't know that you could disable that. if it works out fine, I'll have them do that to mine as well. tell me more about what they do! thanks!
yup i read it in someone else's post here, dealer said they just have to hook it up and change a setting, no charge.
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From an old post, the steps to go through in Star Diag are as follows:

Control Units -> Info. and comms. -> ICM -> Control Unit Adaptations -> Version Coding -> Optional Equipment

In the optional equipment menu you can set the following to present or not-present depending on what you have:

AUDIO, Tele-aid, Cellular Telephone, Trip Computer, Navigation

Best thing to do is print this out as the SAs often have to stuff around with the menus before they know what they are looking for.

Oh, and this is for the pre-2003/2004 models...it may be different for the 05s.
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one more ?
anyone know if the 05 c230 plays MP3s? like mp3 cds?
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one more ?
anyone know if the 05 c230 plays MP3s? like mp3 cds?
if you have command, I think it does. but otherwise, nope; I tried it and it doesn't work.
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yeah you can disable the no phone message. i had mine disabled when i picked up the car, and re-enabled when i had UHI installed.
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are you talking about disabling the me 'no phone' message when switching thought the MFD?

Also, when I took my car to the dealer last time I asked them to enable the NL chirping for the alarm, and was told that was "impossible" and didn't exist.
Does anyone know where I can find the tech instructions for setting the NL chirp alarm setting? I have been searching around without any luck.

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Originally Posted by Deutscher_Wagen
are you talking about disabling the me 'no phone' message when switching thought the MFD?
Yes. It's annoying to have extra crap to flip past when you're trying to get to the audio or miles screen.
Originally Posted by Deutscher_Wagen
Also, when I took my car to the dealer last time I asked them to enable the NL chirping for the alarm, and was told that was "impossible" and didn't exist.
Does anyone know where I can find the tech instructions for setting the NL chirp alarm setting? I have been searching around without any luck.
Thats a good idea, i'll add that to my list! having the alarm chirp when you lock the doors would be nice.
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Although the windows and sunroof won't close with the rain sensor (frankly, I wouldn't want them to), you can close all of them at once with a touch of the recirculation button.
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Originally Posted by Deutscher_Wagen
are you talking about disabling the me 'no phone' message when switching thought the MFD?

Also, when I took my car to the dealer last time I asked them to enable the NL chirping for the alarm, and was told that was "impossible" and didn't exist.
Does anyone know where I can find the tech instructions for setting the NL chirp alarm setting? I have been searching around without any luck.
I have an '02 and I have the chirp activated, so I know that it can be done. The '05's may be different, but someone with more knowledge will have to verify that.
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my 03 has NL setting activated. the dealer always says its impossible if they have no clue what your talking about.

the NO PHONE message had to be disabled using a star diag computer. the dealer disabled it, steve enabled it when he install UHI.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
the dealer always says its impossible if they have no clue what your talking about.
that is exactly the case.
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Originally Posted by revstriker
Although the windows and sunroof won't close with the rain sensor (frankly, I wouldn't want them to), you can close all of them at once with a touch of the recirculation button.
say you park your car on a sunny day with the sunroof wide open, an hour later it starts to rain. you wouldn't want the sunroof to close itself to save your interior from being trashed by water damage?
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
say you park your car on a sunny day with the sunroof wide open, an hour later it starts to rain. you wouldn't want the sunroof to close itself to save your interior from being trashed by water damage?
say you took your car to the car wash (the kind that goes thru the tunnel). the auto wipers turn on, get bent or damaged. who are you going to blame?

to add to that, where the hell does it rain within an hour of a sunny day?

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Originally Posted by ctC230K
say you park your car on a sunny day with the sunroof wide open, an hour later it starts to rain. you wouldn't want the sunroof to close itself to save your interior from being trashed by water damage?
Leaving your roof open is asking for trouble IMO (punks throwing **** in there). Mine is never open when I am not in the car.
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
say you took your car to the car wash (the kind that goes thru the tunnel). the auto wipers turn on, get bent or damaged. who are you going to blame?
auto wipers do not turn on unless wipers are in intermitent position.
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to add to that, where the hell does it rain within an hour of a sunny day?
ever been to Florida? lol
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
say you park your car on a sunny day with the sunroof wide open, an hour later it starts to rain. you wouldn't want the sunroof to close itself to save your interior from being trashed by water damage?
I'd never park my car with the sunroof open.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
say you park your car on a sunny day with the sunroof wide open, an hour later it starts to rain. you wouldn't want the sunroof to close itself to save your interior from being trashed by water damage?
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auto wipers do not turn on unless wipers are in intermitent position.
exactly, that being said:
your saying, on a sunny day you'll already have your wipers set to intermitent, with the roof open. then an hour later it will start raining and convienently you would like your roof and windows to close because your wipers were set to intermitent on a sunny day?

sounds like a little much to ask for.

then again, im not in Florida so.................

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Originally Posted by ctC230K
say you park your car on a sunny day with the sunroof wide open, an hour later it starts to rain. you wouldn't want the sunroof to close itself to save your interior from being trashed by water damage?
In the scenario you mention the windshield wipers won't automatically turn on, either.

Any feature that works automatically when you are not in the car would also work when you are driving it. So:

On a humid-rainy day, you might actually want control over your windows when it rains (the ability to crack the window yourself). With an autoclose feature, the flexibility to control window fogging without the A/C would be taken away. You crack the window only to have the sensor close it again.

Further, while no one can get hurt if your wipers sweep when it starts to rain, there is the potential of getting arms, hands or fingers trapped in an automatic window that closes on its own without warning. Yes, the anti-trap feature will activate. But MB wouldn't want the liability of such a feature. They secretly realize how stupid and sue-happy customers can be, especially American customers.

So, at the end of the day, it's far better to take responsibility for closing the sunroof yourself when you leave the car, rather than trust to the whims of weather, pidgeons that ate too many blueberries, or human cretons who hate upscale cars.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
ever been to Florida? lol
Yep. Live there. And I can confirm that in the summer the rain does come up quite suddenly. But I wouldn't leave the sunroof open anywhere but in my driveway. About 23 years ago I used to leave the top down on my convertible (and the interior got rained on a few times, but it was vinyl). Now, I wouldn't think of leaving the car opened and parked somewhere. Times have changed.

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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
to add to that, where the hell does it rain within an hour of a sunny day?
Melbourne.

Honestly, auto close sunroof using the rain sensor would be simply a novelty...I would never leave my sunroof open.

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