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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 02:47 PM
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Alignment Warranty - experiences needed

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I have a question regarding the alignment warranty. It's weird because my car is starting to pull right after 8.5k miles (2002 230K). I called the dealer to ask if this was under warranty, and he told me it is for 1 year and under 12k miles. But won't be under warranty if you hit a curb. So I told him I didn't hit a curb, but who the heck don't hit curbs after driving the car for 9 months.

2 questions.

1. Why is the alignment warranty much shorter than the original warranty 4 yrs 48k miles?

2. How can they correlate if the pulling is due to hitting a curb?

Any experiences or knowledge with Alignment Warranty appreciated!
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:44 PM
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I don't know of too many car manufacturers that warranty an alignment beyond your first 100 feet off the lot after delivery, let alone a full 12 months.

Unless it's obvious that you've hit a curb (body damage, bent rim, bent control arms, etc.), just tell them that you've been driving it normally, but that it pulls to the right. They diagnosed and fixed my misalignment without playing the "20 questions" game with me.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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I had that problem and I had to take the car in 4 times before it was fixed properly. Did theproblem just start happening.... They gave me crap at first because I had a chipped rim.. so what the first dealer did was just balance the tire... he also aligned it but didn't tell me. then the probelm was still tehre.. so I took it to another dealer and they aligned it again and tried to make me pay for it since MB only covers 1 alinment a year.

to make a long story short, i ended up writing to MB and their rep had to look at my car and have it fixed... now it's fine...

so take it in to the dealer.. if you don't have any visible chips or dents.. then they should say anythign.. i had the problem with my car from day 1 but it finally got fixed 8 months and 11.5K miles later....
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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Re: Alignment Warranty - experiences needed

Originally posted by leepolun
Hi,
I have a question regarding the alignment warranty. It's weird because my car is starting to pull right after 8.5k miles (2002 230K). I called the dealer to ask if this was under warranty, and he told me it is for 1 year and under 12k miles. But won't be under warranty if you hit a curb. So I told him I didn't hit a curb, but who the heck don't hit curbs after driving the car for 9 months.
A LOT of people NEVER hit a curb. I for one haven't hit a curb in years. If you ever decide to buy nice BIG rims, you'll learn to be a bit more careful.

The dealer was quite nice with my GF when she took her car in to get the alignment fixed. They acknowledged that the car was pulling to the right and adjusted the alignment.

On another note, they could NOT find out why the car would "stall" once in a while while MOVING. They replaced the fuel pump sensor to be safe, but the problem happens so infrequently, it's hard for them to get it to happen again.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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Thank you for your inputs.

Yes, I just noticed the problem after driving it from SF to LA and back. I will try my luck this Thurs. with the dealer. Hopefully I have it fixed. It's pretty little thing, but I just want to make sure.

By the way, do they charge you to fill the winshield fluid?
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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On my E55 I was able to get two free warranty alignments all within the first year. I didnt have 12k miles at the time of the second alignment. It basically boils down to how cool your service writer is IMO. I know mine personally so she just submits the warranty claim and MBZ pays it out. I still dont have 12k miles but have had the car for more than one year and will try to still get it aligned again under the warranty.
Oh by the way both alignments were done with 19 inch wheels and H&R springs and the Tech said nothing to the writer about the mods at all.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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i buy my tires at discount tire, and they offer free rotation and alignment for the life of the tires.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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i had the alignment done on my c230 2 times and both were covered under warranty, although the problem still hasn't been fixed. i'll take my car to another dealer, hopefully a better one, tomorrow and see if the warranty still covers it.
i think it should, because it is an inherent problem from day one.
so i think the one alignment per year thing only applies to one properly done alignment, not counting intermediate screw ups.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:33 AM
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Wow, sounds like a common problem to everyone. I keep my fingers crossed since I am not buddied up with the service rep. I know that really helps. My cousin is like buddies with everyone at her MB dealer, and she gets the best services...
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Do not delay. My car spent 9 days at 3 different shops, I had to drive over 700 miles back and forth, easily consumed 40 hours of my life. They spent many many hours on the rack, and in the end, I wrote a letter to MBUSA, threatening the lemon law, and the regional rep replaced all 4 tires, after suggesting only replacing 2, which I knew would be a problem on rotation.

The car (with c7 wheels) is still very suseptible to pulling whichever way the road pulls, and many hours were needed just to install the bolts and pieces that even ALLOW the techs to adjust the suspension.
If you had to pay the 4-8 hours it took just to install the mods to do the adjustments, well you do the math. Seems they left out most of the adjustments that more expensive models have as a cost saving measure.
But alls well that ends well. Thats the only problem so far with the car, but I'm pissed that the dealer sold me the car like that.
Mine also pulled to the right. Now it just pulls whichever way the road does!
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 07:57 AM
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Now it just pulls whichever way the road does!
I took delivery of my car in the winter and immediatly put 16" snow tires on. A few months later I put the C7 wheels back on and noticed a LOT of tramline(ing) as soon as I got on the road with the 17's. I figured it was just a characterisitic of wide, low profile tires. No?
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 08:25 AM
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Mine also pulled to the right. Now it just pulls whichever way the road does!
Mine has never pulled to the right, but has followed ruts in the road and pulled either direction, depending on conditions.
I brought it in and they claim it's all in spec. On nice roads it's no problem but I'm in Michigan, where most of the roads suck, so it can get to be a pain.

I guess that's my number one disappointment with the car; the way it drives with the C7 package. I don't remember the (non-C7) demo driving like that...
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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By the way, do they charge you to fill the winshield fluid?
You must be kidding right? Are you too cheap to spend the $1 for a whole jug of washer fluid? Or are you too lazy to pour the fluid into the washer fluid tank? (takes a whole 30 seconds).

Will you request that they fill up the gas tank for you as well?
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:39 AM
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For those people who are having the problem of the car pulling to the right and it's still not fixed.. write a letter to MB.. the address to write in is int he service manual under the lemon law section.. then they get off their *** and send the rep to fix the car.. that's what happened to me.. they finally got it right on the 4th try..
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by avlis


I took delivery of my car in the winter and immediatly put 16" snow tires on. A few months later I put the C7 wheels back on and noticed a LOT of tramline(ing) as soon as I got on the road with the 17's. I figured it was just a characterisitic of wide, low profile tires. No?
Based on what I was told by a tire dealer a number of years ago, when you change the tire/wheel/size such as a 17" setup to 16" (or vice versa) you should have an alignment performed as a matter of course. Naturally, they could have just been trying to make more money. If I am wrong about doing an alignment, no doubt, someone will provide a correction.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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do what Fuzzo says. Don't delay!
Mine pulled to the right very badly, and I think what happened was that I drove the car from San Diego to Santa Cruz with the alignment out.
That was 1000 miles of cruising, all entirely on Highway 1. So once I got home and made an appt. the first thing they did was rotate the tires, and send me back down the road. So now I wore the other 2 tires funny, and it was another couple thousand miles more before it got completely resolved, hence they had to buy me 4 tires. Or at least thats my theory, and no the 16" wheels don't pull at all, I found. And yes, the low prof wider wheel tire combo is supposedly to blame according to the rep. Also, I was quite pissed to find you can't even drive the car with the c7 in the snow, since chains are strictly prohibited. So much for buying a new car to take the snow; and so much for a car to take bicycles to go mountain biking...no rack available, except the one that goes on the roof, and frankly I aint
putting a bike on top of a glass roof. I wonder how much that would cost to replace? No no no!!
Still I love the car, and one can assume that more stuff will become available as time goes on.

What about a "steering stabilizer" ala like the ones in the JC Whitney catalogs, which are simply a hydralic cyliner that adds some to resistance to the steering system, and keeps the road crowns from affecting things at the steering wheel. Yeh I can hear you scoffing at JC Whitney, but I bet they have at least some useful stuff.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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What about a "steering stabilizer" ala like the ones in the JC Whitney catalogs, which are simply a hydralic cyliner that adds some to resistance to the steering system, and keeps the road crowns from affecting things at the steering wheel. Yeh I can hear you scoffing at JC Whitney, but I bet they have at least some useful stuff.
Steering dampers only work on rapid movements, they aren't going to have an effect on a steady pulling situation. My guess is they won't do much regarding the car following ruts as that's not all that sudden either.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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my car has 16" stock wheels and it still pulled to the right after 2 attempts at Smythe European in San Jose...
brought it to MB of San Francisco today and my car finally goes straight now (they don't provide free car wash though)!!

thanks SFC320 for the recommendation
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