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Originally Posted by WIldcat465
Not to get off topic, but the SL600 has no competition in it's price range in terms of power (about 500 hp for the 600), the retractable hard top (looks good up or down), technology, styling, prestige it can be driven everyday and make most cars eat dust. It's not the best or most reliable car in the world, just the best at what is does.
I don't want to get into a big argument here, but at the price you're at, it's got plenty of competition, and there are many other options that weigh less, have better communication with the driver, and offer a manny even. But then, the SL isn't really a full driver's car, which is fine, if that's what you're into. Just seems weird to me that you'd mention pricing on the c class when it's so much more blatantly obvious that your car's price is much more out of whack.
Jim - I agree with Outland - I see no reason to go CLK coupe (convertible makes more sense) over the ccoupe. At least you wouldn't have to tell people that you're driving the wife's car, as the CLK is much too feminine imho.
But then, Outland and I like driving manuals, so the CLK may be more in your league.
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Originally Posted by tommy
At least you wouldn't have to tell people that you're driving the wife's car, as the CLK is much too feminine imho.
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
Yes, you do save on the NEW taxes when you trade-in by only paying the tax on the difference. My point was that when I bought the car 2 months ago, I paid about $2K in taxes. Those taxes plus the $3K depreciation of the car add up to $5K. A good chunk of change.
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Originally Posted by mick1
this one is nice though. i believe it will go on sale in august.
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Originally Posted by mbny
how much is that gonna sell for? looks pretty sweet. sort of like a mclaren from the side. is that based off the elise?
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Originally Posted by tommy
Actually, at the last MB driving event, I liked the SLK much more, to tell you the truth.
I don't want to get into a big argument here, but at the price you're at, it's got plenty of competition, and there are many other options that weigh less, have better communication with the driver, and offer a manny even. But then, the SL isn't really a full driver's car, which is fine, if that's what you're into. Just seems weird to me that you'd mention pricing on the c class when it's so much more blatantly obvious that your car's price is much more out of whack.
Jim - I agree with Outland - I see no reason to go CLK coupe (convertible makes more sense) over the ccoupe. At least you wouldn't have to tell people that you're driving the wife's car, as the CLK is much too feminine imho.
But then, Outland and I like driving manuals, so the CLK may be more in your league.
I don't want to get into a big argument here, but at the price you're at, it's got plenty of competition, and there are many other options that weigh less, have better communication with the driver, and offer a manny even. But then, the SL isn't really a full driver's car, which is fine, if that's what you're into. Just seems weird to me that you'd mention pricing on the c class when it's so much more blatantly obvious that your car's price is much more out of whack.
Jim - I agree with Outland - I see no reason to go CLK coupe (convertible makes more sense) over the ccoupe. At least you wouldn't have to tell people that you're driving the wife's car, as the CLK is much too feminine imho.
But then, Outland and I like driving manuals, so the CLK may be more in your league.
I don't need to defend what I paid for my car, the joy it gives us makes it worth the price and I can afford it.
I understand why you liked the SLK, my wife and I went to the dealer to purchase one; however, my wife could not reach the pedals comfortable. It's no 600 (by a long shot), but it's a capable little brother. Have you ever driven the biturbo 12 cyl? I dont know what youmean about the SL being a full driver's car. I have no desire to be feel every bump in the road and don't need to plow up twisty roads as the expense of comfortable freeway cruising, but I sometime like to sneak up on Ferraris and Turbo Porches and show them my taillights.
By the way, I don't mind telling people that the SL600 is my wife's car. I actually prefer driving my CL.
Originally Posted by tommy
And for 130 large, I could get two - one to keep stock, and with the remainder, could mod the other to keep up with your SL.
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
No one here has mentioned buying an MB as an investment, have they? The "fact" is that overall, MB's have average trade-in values. The "fact" is that some MB models do hold their values better than average (according to Edmunds), such as the CLK and CL.
if you wanted to buy a reliable car with a high resale value, you should have bought a honda, toyota or lexus. people dont buy mercedes for the resale value, they buy it for the name.
** I own both the Mercedes c240 and Lexus rx330
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Originally Posted by WIldcat465
I don't need to defend what I paid for my car, the joy it gives us makes it worth the price and I can afford it.
I dont know what youmean about the SL being a full driver's car. I have no desire to be feel every bump in the road and don't need to plow up twisty roads as the expense of comfortable freeway cruising
Yeah...yeah and for 130 large I can get 5 Hondas and use the money I save to make mod one to keep up with my SL. Gimme a break, it not all about the speed, it about the total experience. A car like the SL changes the way you see the world and the way the world see you. (Isn't that a commercial? )
I dont know what youmean about the SL being a full driver's car. I have no desire to be feel every bump in the road and don't need to plow up twisty roads as the expense of comfortable freeway cruising
Yeah...yeah and for 130 large I can get 5 Hondas and use the money I save to make mod one to keep up with my SL. Gimme a break, it not all about the speed, it about the total experience. A car like the SL changes the way you see the world and the way the world see you. (Isn't that a commercial?
)I gave you an option - the slk does 0-60 in 5.3, your car 4.8. At 80k less, I'd say that it's a relative value, wouldn't you? In fact, Iliked driving it much more - the sl just felt too boaty to me, but then we obviously do not like the same types of cars.
I'm glad that you like your cars, they're just not my cup of tea, not that I could afford them anyway. There's a reason why I'm in a ccoupe!
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Originally Posted by shortbear
not true, mercedes has one of the worst resale values due to their lack of reliability. just look at the number of problems people have on the mercedes forums then go to the lexus forums.
if you wanted to buy a reliable car with a high resale value, you should have bought a honda, toyota or lexus. people dont buy mercedes for the resale value, they buy it for the name.
** I own both the Mercedes c240 and Lexus rx330
if you wanted to buy a reliable car with a high resale value, you should have bought a honda, toyota or lexus. people dont buy mercedes for the resale value, they buy it for the name.
** I own both the Mercedes c240 and Lexus rx330
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Originally Posted by shortbear
not true, mercedes has one of the worst resale values
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seriously, you cannot call edmund a reliable source. The only real trustworth source would be Consumer Reports. They buy cars straight out of lots and do no accept advertisements.
Other magazines such as Edmunds and JD Power do whatever their advertisers tell them to say. They get specially selected cars for free sent to them directly from the manufacturer rather than buying it off lot like the rest of us.
Other magazines such as Edmunds and JD Power do whatever their advertisers tell them to say. They get specially selected cars for free sent to them directly from the manufacturer rather than buying it off lot like the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by molarband
seriously, you cannot call edmund a reliable source. The only real trustworth source would be Consumer Reports. They buy cars straight out of lots and do no accept advertisements.
Other magazines such as Edmunds and JD Power do whatever their advertisers tell them to say. They get specially selected cars for free sent to them directly from the manufacturer rather than buying it off lot like the rest of us.
Other magazines such as Edmunds and JD Power do whatever their advertisers tell them to say. They get specially selected cars for free sent to them directly from the manufacturer rather than buying it off lot like the rest of us.
What does any of that have to do with ranking the car's with the best resale value? NOTHING! We aren't talking about reliability studies.
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Originally Posted by shortbear
not true, mercedes has one of the worst resale values due to their lack of reliability. just look at the number of problems people have on the mercedes forums then go to the lexus forums.
if you wanted to buy a reliable car with a high resale value, you should have bought a honda, toyota or lexus. people dont buy mercedes for the resale value, they buy it for the name.
** I own both the Mercedes c240 and Lexus rx330
if you wanted to buy a reliable car with a high resale value, you should have bought a honda, toyota or lexus. people dont buy mercedes for the resale value, they buy it for the name.
** I own both the Mercedes c240 and Lexus rx330
There are just too many cars out there to be financing a vehicle--- it's stupid even if you use the argument that it's like renting a vehicle well I don't know about you guys but unless you buy a new car cash right out the box.... you will never finish paying a car until it is at least 8-10 years old and by that time the car is probably going to have problems that will come out of your pocket since there is no more warranty--- it's just not worth it anymore to finance a new car.
The best two options out there these days are leasing or certified pre-owned. With the lease you get a brand new car at reasonable price monthly 3 years later get a new one and do it all over again styling every 3 years. PRe-owned you don't take that big hit that the people who financed the car did and you still get the same driving experience just mildly broken in.
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Originally Posted by caliboy
Uh thats why I lease 3 years get rid of it and get into a new one. I pay less money a month than financing and less down and I get a <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=new%20car" onmouseover="window.status='new car'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">new car</a> every three years until I get old and tired of driving around all these different cars---(never will happen by the way lol)---- and I get me a nice reliable Toyota 4 runner or something pay it in full and keep it till I RIP
There are just too many cars out there to be financing a vehicle--- it's stupid even if you use the argument that it's like renting a vehicle well I don't know about you guys but unless you buy a new car cash right out the box.... you will never finish paying a car until it is at least 8-10 years old and by that time the car is probably going to have problems that will come out of your pocket since there is no more warranty--- it's just not worth it anymore to finance a new car.
The best two options out there these days are leasing or certified pre-owned. With the lease you get a brand new car at reasonable price monthly 3 years later get a new one and do it all over again styling every 3 years. PRe-owned you don't take that big hit that the people who financed the car did and you still get the same driving experience just mildly broken in.
There are just too many cars out there to be financing a vehicle--- it's stupid even if you use the argument that it's like renting a vehicle well I don't know about you guys but unless you buy a new car cash right out the box.... you will never finish paying a car until it is at least 8-10 years old and by that time the car is probably going to have problems that will come out of your pocket since there is no more warranty--- it's just not worth it anymore to finance a new car.
The best two options out there these days are leasing or certified pre-owned. With the lease you get a brand new car at reasonable price monthly 3 years later get a new one and do it all over again styling every 3 years. PRe-owned you don't take that big hit that the people who financed the car did and you still get the same driving experience just mildly broken in.
when you break down the numbers, leasing for 3 years or buying and selling after 3 years, the numbers work out extremely similar. i prefer to pay the depreciation rather than pay more, sell the car and then take the hit on top of it.
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