Case against the 2006 C230 V6
04-25-2005, 04:47 PM
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'06 Lexus GS300 RWD, '07 Camry SE V6 auto, '91 190E 2.6 auto
Originally Posted by ctC230K
woah where did your thread and chart go? this is so confusing... 
04-25-2005, 04:59 PM
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2005 C230SS 6spd Blk/Blk, 2006 C350 SS 6spd Blk/Blk
Originally Posted by Young Doc
Couple days ago the dealer said price for the 2006 V6 C230 goes up and loses content - namely the AMG front end.
He could be right. I just noticed that on the German Website, the 06 Sport Sedan C350 loses its staggered wheel set also. All four are the same size!.
I really hope they dont change the look of the 06. I really want a C350 but i want it to be otherwise exactly the same as the 05. The Sport 05 look great.
BTW, i went down to my dealer today to try to order a 05 C320 SS. He said I couldn't because they no longer make them. When i asked about buying whatever he had in stock, he said he had never seen one over the last year and nothing came up in his database for the NY tri state area!! Not many people want them.
Really hope 06 doesn't change its looks.
04-25-2005, 05:10 PM
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'06 Lexus GS300 RWD, '07 Camry SE V6 auto, '91 190E 2.6 auto
Originally Posted by neilsam
BTW, i went down to my dealer today to try to order a 05 C320 SS. He said I couldn't because they no longer make them. When i asked about buying whatever he had in stock, he said he had never seen one over the last year and nothing came up in his database for the NY tri state area!! Not many people want them.
He was either confused or just stupid. He was speaking of the COUPE, not sedan.
04-25-2005, 10:02 PM
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2006 c230
So apparently price is going up. Anyone have any ideas by how much? I mean output only increases 15 HP. Also, what's the chance of the style changing, 2005 had some major cosmetic changes. How much can they change price for this entry MB?
04-25-2005, 10:16 PM
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Gentlemen, if you are interested in a 230 SS: get yourself an 05. Things do not auger well for the 2006.
Honestly I thought the 05 was an awesome deal. AMG looks, fine new interior and a price much lower than what the passerby would guess.
Honestly I thought the 05 was an awesome deal. AMG looks, fine new interior and a price much lower than what the passerby would guess.
04-25-2005, 11:32 PM
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by Jim Banville
Having owned a C240 and a C230, once the C240 gets moving, it has PLENTY of power for a car in its class.... just as much as my C230... if my memory serves me well.
Consider that you had an automatic last time. The C240 is a major dawg off the line, and pretty darn weezy on the highway. Anyway, when your driving around town, and you want to go faster, the auto just downshifts. Now, your brain has to process that, and make the shift to a lower gear. It takes a little longer than just pressing the right foot, but I'd wager the C230 is faster ANYWHERE than the C240. Automatics tend to feel quicker because of the instant down shifts.
I'm stuck in one right now. Trust me. Its sloooooowwwwwwww. My wife thinks her Pacifica would out run it.
04-26-2005, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Outland
Your memory is fading.
Consider that you had an automatic last time. The C240 is a major dawg off the line, and pretty darn weezy on the highway. Anyway, when your driving around town, and you want to go faster, the auto just downshifts. Now, your brain has to process that, and make the shift to a lower gear. It takes a little longer than just pressing the right foot, but I'd wager the C230 is faster ANYWHERE than the C240. Automatics tend to feel quicker because of the instant down shifts.
I'm stuck in one right now. Trust me. Its sloooooowwwwwwww. My wife thinks her Pacifica would out run it.
Consider that you had an automatic last time. The C240 is a major dawg off the line, and pretty darn weezy on the highway. Anyway, when your driving around town, and you want to go faster, the auto just downshifts. Now, your brain has to process that, and make the shift to a lower gear. It takes a little longer than just pressing the right foot, but I'd wager the C230 is faster ANYWHERE than the C240. Automatics tend to feel quicker because of the instant down shifts.
I'm stuck in one right now. Trust me. Its sloooooowwwwwwww. My wife thinks her Pacifica would out run it.
you couldn't have said it better! thats exactly what happened with my loaner c240, damn auto tranny! 
04-26-2005, 04:43 PM
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by Jim Banville
He was either confused or just stupid. He was speaking of the COUPE, not sedan.
You just can't get them in the snobby states of Amerika.
04-26-2005, 04:45 PM
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by ctC230K
you couldn't have said it better! thats exactly what happened with my loaner c240, damn auto tranny!
04-26-2005, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
werd
i was impressed by its engine size but that's about it. or atleast its "plastic cover"
size doesn't matter though haha
i was impressed by its engine size but that's about it. or atleast its "plastic cover"
size doesn't matter though haha
04-27-2005, 08:59 AM
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'06 Lexus GS300 RWD, '07 Camry SE V6 auto, '91 190E 2.6 auto
Originally Posted by Outland
Who is the confused or stupid one Jim? THEY STILL MAKE COUPES.
You just can't get them in the snobby states of Amerika.
You just can't get them in the snobby states of Amerika.
Hey, genius, as far as the US market is concerned (he went to a US dealer in NY, right?) coupes are HISTORY. Any other smarta$$ comments?
04-27-2005, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Outland
Your memory is fading.
The C240's problem has always been the awfully slow acceleration from a dead stop.
04-27-2005, 10:29 PM
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The C240 is indeed a dog away from the stoplights. But what moves you off the line? Torque does. The torque is down just as much as the HP is on the C240. Now, what keeps you accellerating? Hp, and its kinda hard to make up a 20+HP defecit, and against a lighter car.
Sorry Jimmy, I can't see any scenario where the weezer6 has an advantage. Its just the butt dyno getting fooled by the automatic. Press the gas, and voila, you bump down two gears , the engine winds up...it all seems rather fast unless another car is alongside you. I just finished a week in a C240, its slow everywhere. My car leaps from 60 to 120, the C240 struggles to reach 100 from highway speed.
Sorry Jimmy, I can't see any scenario where the weezer6 has an advantage. Its just the butt dyno getting fooled by the automatic. Press the gas, and voila, you bump down two gears , the engine winds up...it all seems rather fast unless another car is alongside you. I just finished a week in a C240, its slow everywhere. My car leaps from 60 to 120, the C240 struggles to reach 100 from highway speed.
04-27-2005, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
Hey, genius, as far as the US market is concerned (he went to a US dealer in NY, right?) coupes are HISTORY. Any other smarta$$ comments?
At some point, I'll feel the need. :p
04-28-2005, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Outland
The C240 is indeed a dog away from the stoplights. But what moves you off the line? Torque does. The torque is down just as much as the HP is on the C240. Now, what keeps you accellerating? Hp, and its kinda hard to make up a 20+HP defecit, and against a lighter car.
Sorry Jimmy, I can't see any scenario where the weezer6 has an advantage. Its just the butt dyno getting fooled by the automatic. Press the gas, and voila, you bump down two gears , the engine winds up...it all seems rather fast unless another car is alongside you. I just finished a week in a C240, its slow everywhere. My car leaps from 60 to 120, the C240 struggles to reach 100 from highway speed.
Sorry Jimmy, I can't see any scenario where the weezer6 has an advantage. Its just the butt dyno getting fooled by the automatic. Press the gas, and voila, you bump down two gears , the engine winds up...it all seems rather fast unless another car is alongside you. I just finished a week in a C240, its slow everywhere. My car leaps from 60 to 120, the C240 struggles to reach 100 from highway speed.
