2006 C class info
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2006 C class info
http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...ercedes/1.html
Most C class info is on page 6.
Most C class info is on page 6.
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Originally Posted by Jim Banville
http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...ercedes/1.html
Most C class info is on page 6.
Most C class info is on page 6.
Confirmed then. "The C 230 goes from zero to 100 km/h in just 8.4 seconds (saloon")....preceeded by "Mercedes-Benz is also offering the C 230 with a V6 engine for the same price as the previous four-cylinder C 230 KOMPRESSOR. Compared to that model, the C 230 delivers additional output of 9 kW/12 hp, something which drivers will notice through the vehicle’s greater agility and the enhanced driving pleasure it offers"
What are they smoking and where can I buy some? JUST 8.4 seconds? Something drivers will notice? Yeah, I think I'd notice getting passed by Mr. Softee, how about you? And with no mention of the 1/4 time, I can assume it's even more discouraging. 8.9 for the 7-G Tiptronic??? Gag...
A little skeptical about this statement: "The C 350, which is offered with either the ELEGANCE or AVANTGARDE equipment lines as standard, and is also equipped with 17-inch light alloy wheels, will be available for a lower price than the similarly equipped C 320 predecessor model."....Ok, so what standard options did they remove to make it cheaper?
Although if it is cheaper with the same standard options and same priced options, I'll be kicking myself for not waiting a few months.
Whew, all the uncertainty of scooping up an 05 is now allayed.
Thanks for the link!!
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Originally Posted by delbomber
Wow, great find. DOn't want to steal your thunder, but I have to comment.
Confirmed then. "The C 230 goes from zero to 100 km/h in just 8.4 seconds (saloon")....preceeded by "Mercedes-Benz is also offering the C 230 with a V6 engine for the same price as the previous four-cylinder C 230 KOMPRESSOR. Compared to that model, the C 230 delivers additional output of 9 kW/12 hp, something which drivers will notice through the vehicle’s greater agility and the enhanced driving pleasure it offers"
What are they smoking and where can I buy some? JUST 8.4 seconds? Something drivers will notice? Yeah, I think I'd notice getting passed by Mr. Softee, how about you? And with no mention of the 1/4 time, I can assume it's even more discouraging. 8.9 for the 7-G Tiptronic??? Gag...
A little skeptical about this statement: "The C 350, which is offered with either the ELEGANCE or AVANTGARDE equipment lines as standard, and is also equipped with 17-inch light alloy wheels, will be available for a lower price than the similarly equipped C 320 predecessor model."....Ok, so what standard options did they remove to make it cheaper?
Although if it is cheaper with the same standard options and same priced options, I'll be kicking myself for not waiting a few months.
Whew, all the uncertainty of scooping up an 05 is now allayed.
Thanks for the link!!
Confirmed then. "The C 230 goes from zero to 100 km/h in just 8.4 seconds (saloon")....preceeded by "Mercedes-Benz is also offering the C 230 with a V6 engine for the same price as the previous four-cylinder C 230 KOMPRESSOR. Compared to that model, the C 230 delivers additional output of 9 kW/12 hp, something which drivers will notice through the vehicle’s greater agility and the enhanced driving pleasure it offers"
What are they smoking and where can I buy some? JUST 8.4 seconds? Something drivers will notice? Yeah, I think I'd notice getting passed by Mr. Softee, how about you? And with no mention of the 1/4 time, I can assume it's even more discouraging. 8.9 for the 7-G Tiptronic??? Gag...
A little skeptical about this statement: "The C 350, which is offered with either the ELEGANCE or AVANTGARDE equipment lines as standard, and is also equipped with 17-inch light alloy wheels, will be available for a lower price than the similarly equipped C 320 predecessor model."....Ok, so what standard options did they remove to make it cheaper?
Although if it is cheaper with the same standard options and same priced options, I'll be kicking myself for not waiting a few months.
Whew, all the uncertainty of scooping up an 05 is now allayed.
Thanks for the link!!
what is our 0-60 in the o5's?
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Originally Posted by Kenzmbz
what is our 0-60 in the o5's?
Of course 0-100 km is 0-62 mph, so add an extra .1 or .2 seconds on there to get apples to apples.
No matter how you slice it though, the '06 is looking like a pig.
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Originally Posted by Battery!
Is the new C230 V6 actually slower? They also comment that it's more fuel efficient. I don't believe the numbers quoted.
I am at a complete loss as to why they would decrease accel. for the sake of pure power. It can't be just to claim a V6 in the car. Impressing someone with a V6 is soooo 1993.
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Originally Posted by delbomber
Other people on this board have posted quicker times,
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[QUOTE=delbomber]Saying the new V6 in the C230 is more efficient than the SC I4 would be blatant lying.[QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing because fuel efficiency is the point of the four banger in entry level cars. I can't understand this move.
I was thinking the same thing because fuel efficiency is the point of the four banger in entry level cars. I can't understand this move.
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Originally Posted by Battery
I was thinking the same thing because fuel efficiency is the point of the four banger in entry level cars. I can't understand this move.
In the prior years, they had messed up by making the C230k faster than the more expensive c240. They corrected this in C-class line of cars for the 2006 model year
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Originally Posted by mick1
I think their logic was the c350 should be fastest (6.4 secs) , and then comes the c280 (7.2 secs) , and the c230 (8.4 secs) should be the slowest.
In the prior years, they had messed up by making the C230k faster than the more expensive c240. They corrected this in C-class line of cars for the 2006 model year
In the prior years, they had messed up by making the C230k faster than the more expensive c240. They corrected this in C-class line of cars for the 2006 model year
Unless these are still just the Euro numbers and they wake up and do something, anything, before introducing in the US.
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Originally Posted by delbomber
Yeah, I can see that, but 8.4 is pretty damn slow...
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Originally Posted by mick1
Yep. and that's the result from a professional test driver. I imagine it would take a little bit longer for the average driver
But for MB's sake...mein Gott!!
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As my dealer said, there really is no point comparing ROW and Euro Models with the US. The US is a big market with its own models. I am sure the specs for power will be quite different.
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Originally Posted by neilsam
As my dealer said, there really is no point comparing ROW and Euro Models with the US. The US is a big market with its own models. I am sure the specs for power will be quite different.
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Originally Posted by delbomber
A dealer I spoke with while shopping for my car quoted the same specs for the US model. Can't see how it will be any quicker assuming he had current information.
btw, according to MB UK, it would take 7.7 secs for the C320 to reach 62.5 mph, so the C350 is much faster, 6.4 secs to reach the same speed according to mercedes.de
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Originally Posted by mick1
It turns out that 8.4 secs to reach 62.5 mph is not all that slow. Mercedes-Benz UK says it would take 8.1 secs for the C230 Kompressor to reach 62.5 mph (0.3 sec difference is nothing to get excited about, IMHO)
btw, according to MB UK, it would take 7.7 secs for the C320 to reach 62.5 mph, so the C350 is much faster, 6.4 secs according the mercedes.de
btw, according to MB UK, it would take 7.7 secs for the C320 to reach 62.5 mph, so the C350 is much faster, 6.4 secs according the mercedes.de
things of note: compression ratio posted here is 8.5:1...2005 C230 Kompressor in offical MBUSA brochure is 8.7:1. Rated at 189 HP officially by MBUSA, not 192 as listed here. I'm not confident the UK 0-62.5 time bears any relevance to the US time.
On the other hand, specs in the original article for the '06 C230 are the same as those quoted to me by the dealer who was going to build me one of the first ones. If we use the C55 as the decoder, perhaps we can get somewhere. C55 published as 4.9, 0-60 by MBUSA. 5.2 on the German site for 0-62. Establishing ~0.3 seconds as the difference for 0-60 and 0-62.5. The 8.4 quoted in the article for 0-62.5 becomes 8.1 for 0-60.... vs. 7.6 published 0-60 time for 2005 C230 Kompressor. That's a half-second. That's noticeable. And, yuck, 8+ is just an ugly number.
The '06 will have less torque, but over a broader range. Real drivers like high-end power, not just a jump off the line, and maybe that's where this new engine gains an edge, but 0-60 is the golden spec...and it's coming up brass for the '06.
Really though, who the hell knows???
It's looking quite ugly at the moment, but we'll find out soon enough.
Last edited by delbomber; May 21, 2005 at 03:02 AM.
