Not to beat a dead audio horse...but I actually LIKE the standard audio!
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Not to beat a dead audio horse...but I actually LIKE the standard audio!
Hey all, I know this has been out there about a million times, but was wondering why I don't mind the standard audio in the c230k when just about everyone here seems to hate it. It's not that I don't listen to bass heavy music because I definitely hear it in the genres I listen to. (Pop/Rock/R&B/Top 40/Alternative/ and yes, even some country) Anyway, I much prefer the audio in the MB than the 2000 Impala it replaces. I only have the bass turned up about half way and it still shakes the mirrors nicely. And yes, I do know what a nice system sounds like and the car doesn't hold a candle to the system in my living room, but I'm just trying to figure out what everyone's complaint is with the system and why mine doesn't seem to have the problem. It was built in 3/02 and I was wondering if maybe they changed something or if you guys just think I'm tone deaf?
Well, end of beating the dead audio horse I guess.
$0.02 from dave
Well, end of beating the dead audio horse I guess.
$0.02 from dave
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I like mine too!
Glad to hear someone else likes their MB sound system! I was almost embarrassed to admit how much I am ejoying the much disparaged Bose system amongst all these audio snobs 
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You guys don't think the sound is too bright? I mean, really high pitched... ear shattering. You almost can't listen to it loud. I don't know.. it really really irks me to listen to it.
My brother has a Cavalier, nothing special.. stock and it's way better. The wife just sold her old Accent (yes Hyundai) and it didn't sound this bad. I don't know, I hate it.
She isn't even in to stereo and she can't even stand it.. now that is saying somthing@!
I'm definelty going to replace it. I'll keep you guys posted. But like anyone will say, if you like it, keep it! THat just saves you alot of $$$$$
My brother has a Cavalier, nothing special.. stock and it's way better. The wife just sold her old Accent (yes Hyundai) and it didn't sound this bad. I don't know, I hate it.
She isn't even in to stereo and she can't even stand it.. now that is saying somthing@!
I'm definelty going to replace it. I'll keep you guys posted. But like anyone will say, if you like it, keep it! THat just saves you alot of $$$$$
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I really dont turn up my stereo very loud, Idid replace every thing, I listened to the Bose system before I ordered my car it sounds worse than the base system, like mud .
no highs no lows must be bose
no highs no lows must be bose
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Originally posted by schwarz c230
I really dont turn up my stereo very loud, Idid replace every thing, I listened to the Bose system before I ordered my car it sounds worse than the base system, like mud .
no highs no lows must be bose
I really dont turn up my stereo very loud, Idid replace every thing, I listened to the Bose system before I ordered my car it sounds worse than the base system, like mud .
no highs no lows must be bose
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I can see that at least one of you has a C320, you're in a different league than the C230. First you get Bose standard, second you have more and better speakers in better locations. Yes the C320 audio system sounds way better than the stock C230 and even way better than the Bose on the C230. Even the standard C240 sounds better than the C230. And some people don't like to hear every note played on a bass guitar, but I do. I can tell you that on a C230 the cassette radio bass set to 10 is like the audio 10 set to about 5 or 6. Also I like an in dash CD. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate the changer, that's why I have both. My wife drives my car, she can pop in her CD without messing with my changer.
If I had a C320 I would not have gotten the Audio 10, but I don't so I did.
If I had a C320 I would not have gotten the Audio 10, but I don't so I did.
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Originally posted by SilverCi
You guys don't think the sound is too bright? I mean, really high pitched... ear shattering. You almost can't listen to it loud. I don't know.. it really really irks me to listen to it.
My brother has a Cavalier, nothing special.. stock and it's way better. The wife just sold her old Accent (yes Hyundai) and it didn't sound this bad. I don't know, I hate it.
She isn't even in to stereo and she can't even stand it.. now that is saying somthing@!
I'm definelty going to replace it. I'll keep you guys posted. But like anyone will say, if you like it, keep it! THat just saves you alot of $$$$$
You guys don't think the sound is too bright? I mean, really high pitched... ear shattering. You almost can't listen to it loud. I don't know.. it really really irks me to listen to it.
My brother has a Cavalier, nothing special.. stock and it's way better. The wife just sold her old Accent (yes Hyundai) and it didn't sound this bad. I don't know, I hate it.
She isn't even in to stereo and she can't even stand it.. now that is saying somthing@!
I'm definelty going to replace it. I'll keep you guys posted. But like anyone will say, if you like it, keep it! THat just saves you alot of $$$$$
the easiest way to test the sound system is to get one of the cincinnati pops orchestra's CDs.
it is true that there is a difference between the C230 coupe and the C sedan because the coupe only has 7 speakers and the sedan has 10 when equipt with BOSE optional sound system.
BTW go to one of those BOSE stereo stores.
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Everything is relative
OK I haven't got into this discussion for a "one over you" kind of thing...(there is always going to be someone with a BIGGER,better and possibly more expensive toy)I have a Hi-Fi system in my front room that easily exceeds the cost of my Mercedes Benz ...by over twice as much !!!...my point is...that considerable improvements can be made to the stock MB audio system for relatively little financial outlay (whether or not you choose to...is a personal decision)...Just bare in mind the law of diminshing returns...i.e. a £200,000 system is not neccessarily going to be qualitatively speaking ten times as good as a £20,000 system...and yet a £2,000 system is likely to appear(sound)four times better than a £500 system
Please consider that my views do not include "pride of ownership" in the equation
Please consider that my views do not include "pride of ownership" in the equation
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i am a recording engineer for a living... i live in recording studios 24/7 and know all about different aspects of sound. i have the bose system in my c230 and personally i dont have any problem with the sound... it is very clean and flat. i think that maybe when some people turn it all the way up and expect to hear booming bass and screeching highs this is where the system falls short. it simply doesnt have the power to be played loud and maintain the same signal response..... anyway i am in the studio all day so i dont mind coming into my car and listening to a system that isnt turned all the way up- my ears get blasted all day! 
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I like to drive with my windows down and the sunroof open when I take the hiway to work, at 70 plus mph I could not even hear the stereo, I do not blast my stereo by the way, I hate when you pull up next to somone with there stereo cranked up to 11
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I still wonder if they changed the radios or something...I drive, uhm, for the sake of insurance, we'll say I drive the speed limit on I-75 (which would be 70...right) anyway, I've had everything open and could hear the radio just fine. Although I have noticed the CD changer sounds better than the radio at those speeds, but I'm guessing that's more of a signal quality thing since the changer is right next to the radio and not having to receive signals over an already over crowded spectrum...but I'm straying.
Anyway, I'm just curious to those who have the stock radio and don't like it, when was your car made? Possibly they heard your complaints and updated them? Either way, I'm glad I like mine...and even after hearing all these complaints I've gone out to the car several times and I still like it...which is strange because usually I'm all about joining the bandwagon.
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Anyway, I'm just curious to those who have the stock radio and don't like it, when was your car made? Possibly they heard your complaints and updated them? Either way, I'm glad I like mine...and even after hearing all these complaints I've gone out to the car several times and I still like it...which is strange because usually I'm all about joining the bandwagon.
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I have been pondering if the owners of the stock audio system in the Coupe are complaining about fidelity or loudness / dynamic range. IMHO (I'm also a Hi-Fi nut) the coupe sound is flat and very crisp.
So are you guys complaining about fidelity or loudness?
So are you guys complaining about fidelity or loudness?
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le848dave, don't second guess yourself based on what you hear on this forum. Go with your own instincts and likes or dislikes. I liked the standard sound system just fine when I was shopping for the car. Because I live in an area where there is no classical music station, I opted for the Bose system and cd changer. It sounds great. Several friends have stated their surprise at the quality of the sound coming from such a little car. I personally think that some of the folks who find the sound system inferior, have simply not taken the time to learn how to set the controls.
I dislike entering into these kinds of discussions in which some people call a system crap just because they don't like it or perhaps because they don't know how to set it up. Really it is largely a matter of opinion and preference. We all are entitled to an opinion. This ramble is mine.
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I dislike entering into these kinds of discussions in which some people call a system crap just because they don't like it or perhaps because they don't know how to set it up. Really it is largely a matter of opinion and preference. We all are entitled to an opinion. This ramble is mine.
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Thanks Deb...it was more of a curiosity thing for me...I just thought it was weird because I'm normally very picky about this kind of thing...I even listened to the radio again before signing the final paperwork because I came home and gleaned all the information off of this board so I knew what to try out before I signed the final dotted line.
One thing I am glad I did is that I decided NOT to get after reading this forum is the C7 package. It wouldn't have bothered me so much if it weren't for those stupid wheels...I know they are sportier and such, but I know a lot of people at work who have fancy rims/sport tires on their cars and it seems just about every one of them has problems or doesn't have them on except for a few months of the year. (I'm in MI and if it isn't snowing season it's pothole season...problem w/ those tires is they aren't tollerant as much to the car swallowing potholes up here.)
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One thing I am glad I did is that I decided NOT to get after reading this forum is the C7 package. It wouldn't have bothered me so much if it weren't for those stupid wheels...I know they are sportier and such, but I know a lot of people at work who have fancy rims/sport tires on their cars and it seems just about every one of them has problems or doesn't have them on except for a few months of the year. (I'm in MI and if it isn't snowing season it's pothole season...problem w/ those tires is they aren't tollerant as much to the car swallowing potholes up here.)
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Dave, If you're happy with the stock radio, then that is great because you don't have to spend any more money! But on the other hand, I have personal experience with the stock system and the new HU I replaced it with, and there is no comparison in terms of sound quality. Buellwinkle will tell you that there is a huge difference between the Audio 10 and the US system, and they are both technically "stock" Mercedes stereos. I don't know what you had before this car, but it may well have been worse so the stock radio sounds good to you. I initially compared mine to the radio in my Dakota, and came away very unhappy. It all depends on what you are comparing it to. Let me say that again- It all depends on what you are comparing it to!
And yes Deb, I was able to master the bass and treble controls on the stock HU even though they were terribly complex and required hours of studying the manual.
And yes Deb, I was able to master the bass and treble controls on the stock HU even though they were terribly complex and required hours of studying the manual.
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Re: Everything is relative
Originally posted by London AMG
OK I haven't got into this discussion for a "one over you" kind of thing...(there is always going to be someone with a BIGGER,better and possibly more expensive toy)I have a Hi-Fi system in my front room that easily exceeds the cost of my Mercedes Benz ...by over twice as much !!!...my point is...that considerable improvements can be made to the stock MB audio system for relatively little financial outlay (whether or not you choose to...is a personal decision)...Just bare in mind the law of diminshing returns...i.e. a £200,000 system is not neccessarily going to be qualitatively speaking ten times as good as a £20,000 system...and yet a £2,000 system is likely to appear(sound)four times better than a £500 system
Please consider that my views do not include "pride of ownership" in the equation
OK I haven't got into this discussion for a "one over you" kind of thing...(there is always going to be someone with a BIGGER,better and possibly more expensive toy)I have a Hi-Fi system in my front room that easily exceeds the cost of my Mercedes Benz ...by over twice as much !!!...my point is...that considerable improvements can be made to the stock MB audio system for relatively little financial outlay (whether or not you choose to...is a personal decision)...Just bare in mind the law of diminshing returns...i.e. a £200,000 system is not neccessarily going to be qualitatively speaking ten times as good as a £20,000 system...and yet a £2,000 system is likely to appear(sound)four times better than a £500 system
Please consider that my views do not include "pride of ownership" in the equation
London- I presume you have a Bang Olufsen audio system because of the amount you stated which is, by all means, better than any audio system in mb but will still not hold a candle to some of the newer costom installs with kickers and such... yes the system in the mb is pretty crappy when you put Dre or korn on but you have to think that mb is targeting the "business man" who listens more to jazz or softer music... where the mb system sounds Awesome. They really need to look at who is buying these cars now and how to target the consumer better... i'm 19 and love to listen to loud music like everyone else my age and don't like spending major bucks to upgrade because only "certain" places will install on my car Grrrrr also mb has finally dropped bose, so i hear, and signed with Bang Olufsen for 2006?? i think. But if you think it will be much better don't count on it... B&O really only excels on high range music like jazz and piano but doesn't do well on newer stuff... in my opinion (systems up and downstairs, looks good but would rather have something that sounded better)
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Originally posted by SilverCi
You guys don't think the sound is too bright? I mean, really high pitched... ear shattering. You almost can't listen to it loud. I don't know.. it really really irks me to listen to it.
My brother has a Cavalier, nothing special.. stock and it's way better. The wife just sold her old Accent (yes Hyundai) and it didn't sound this bad. I don't know, I hate it.
She isn't even in to stereo and she can't even stand it.. now that is saying somthing@!
I'm definelty going to replace it. I'll keep you guys posted. But like anyone will say, if you like it, keep it! THat just saves you alot of $$$$$
You guys don't think the sound is too bright? I mean, really high pitched... ear shattering. You almost can't listen to it loud. I don't know.. it really really irks me to listen to it.
My brother has a Cavalier, nothing special.. stock and it's way better. The wife just sold her old Accent (yes Hyundai) and it didn't sound this bad. I don't know, I hate it.
She isn't even in to stereo and she can't even stand it.. now that is saying somthing@!
I'm definelty going to replace it. I'll keep you guys posted. But like anyone will say, if you like it, keep it! THat just saves you alot of $$$$$
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Re: Re: Everything is relative
Originally posted by a1phanumrc
London- I presume you have a Bang Olufsen audio system because of the amount you stated which is, by all means, better than any audio system in mb but will still not hold a candle to some of the newer costom installs with kickers and such... yes the system in the mb is pretty crappy when you put Dre or korn on but you have to think that mb is targeting the "business man" who listens more to jazz or softer music... where the mb system sounds Awesome. They really need to look at who is buying these cars now and how to target the consumer better... i'm 19 and love to listen to loud music like everyone else my age and don't like spending major bucks to upgrade because only "certain" places will install on my car Grrrrr also mb has finally dropped bose, so i hear, and signed with Bang Olufsen for 2006?? i think. But if you think it will be much better don't count on it... B&O really only excels on high range music like jazz and piano but doesn't do well on newer stuff... in my opinion (systems up and downstairs, looks good but would rather have something that sounded better)
London- I presume you have a Bang Olufsen audio system because of the amount you stated which is, by all means, better than any audio system in mb but will still not hold a candle to some of the newer costom installs with kickers and such... yes the system in the mb is pretty crappy when you put Dre or korn on but you have to think that mb is targeting the "business man" who listens more to jazz or softer music... where the mb system sounds Awesome. They really need to look at who is buying these cars now and how to target the consumer better... i'm 19 and love to listen to loud music like everyone else my age and don't like spending major bucks to upgrade because only "certain" places will install on my car Grrrrr also mb has finally dropped bose, so i hear, and signed with Bang Olufsen for 2006?? i think. But if you think it will be much better don't count on it... B&O really only excels on high range music like jazz and piano but doesn't do well on newer stuff... in my opinion (systems up and downstairs, looks good but would rather have something that sounded better)
My remarks are ONLY my opinion...and definitely not meant to offend any B&O owners
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B&O should read BO(offensive body odor)! There excel indesigning the package and spend nothing on the actual quality of sound IMHO. They are manufactured by far eastern oems not european companies as it sounds. You've got to get out and here a nice Krell or Pass amp on some quality speakers with a good analog source.
Within the given situation, I find the stock system just fine. I don't need Who volume levels or hip-hop bass so it works for me. Remember, it is a stock system on a $25k car not a premium system on an S class.
Within the given situation, I find the stock system just fine. I don't need Who volume levels or hip-hop bass so it works for me. Remember, it is a stock system on a $25k car not a premium system on an S class.
