pulley shootout challenge
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pulley shootout challenge
I am proposing a pulley shoot out. lets get this all out in the open. a put up or shut up to answer all questions. lets see each manufacture submit a production pulley, to one location at one time on at least one car and see what happens. we could see the results of the software guys too. lets get together somewhere and have a friendly challenge. I would really like to see this. no more he said this and he said that. a complete dyno test, complete with a/f ratios. done at sealevel. i propose here in socal. anyone want to step up to the plate and show how good their product is? lets get a neutral dyno shop to conduct the test. it could be witnessed by any of us that would like to make the treck. i would think that if it was written up well, one of the tuner magazines would print it. i know that sportcompact magazine has their own dyno. maybe they would be up for it?
what do you all think?
what do you all think?
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Come on Clint, do you really think the tuners are going to risk their rep against a $350 pulley, no way, it's not in their best interests.
Face it, most tuners don't make their own products, they outsource to manufacturers for wheels, pulleys, brakes, and have it made, stamp their name on it and sell it. The only reason the ASP pulley is cheaper is because as a favor to all (except the tuners) I cut out the middle man, no distributor, no dealers just buy direct from the source. That' why you won't get the fancy box, badges and a belt, just power.
Face it, most tuners don't make their own products, they outsource to manufacturers for wheels, pulleys, brakes, and have it made, stamp their name on it and sell it. The only reason the ASP pulley is cheaper is because as a favor to all (except the tuners) I cut out the middle man, no distributor, no dealers just buy direct from the source. That' why you won't get the fancy box, badges and a belt, just power.
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Very true about some manufacturers just stamp their name on the products then sell it. I would love to see the shoot out but i would also like to see dyno showing A/F ratio because you can have a fast car but if your engine is running 14.7:1 (this is when the engine make the most power if it doesn't detonation), how long will the engine last. I would rather lose a little bit of power to run it at 12.5:1 A/f ratio.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
I cut out the middle man, no distributor, no dealers just buy direct from the source. That' why you won't get the fancy box, badges and a belt, just power.
I cut out the middle man, no distributor, no dealers just buy direct from the source. That' why you won't get the fancy box, badges and a belt, just power.
Your pulley may be just as good or better then these other guys, but renntech has a warranty, and thats worth more then a couple of bucks.
I bought a mercedes, not a kia, and i am not gonna go cheap now on tuning it, not even to prove some silly point on the evils of professional tuners, and there business model.
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Originally posted by greg230
yea, you also cut out the warranty on your engine kleeman and renntech offer, real product support, and solid R&D on more then 1 car.
yea, you also cut out the warranty on your engine kleeman and renntech offer, real product support, and solid R&D on more then 1 car.
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Originally posted by greg230
yea, you also cut out the warranty on your engine kleeman and renntech offer, real product support, and solid R&D on more then 1 car.
yea, you also cut out the warranty on your engine kleeman and renntech offer, real product support, and solid R&D on more then 1 car.
Besides, MB warranttees my engine for 4 years, ASP warranttees the pulley so what do I have to lose.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Besides, MB warranttees my engine for 4 years, ASP warranttees the pulley so what do I have to lose.
Besides, MB warranttees my engine for 4 years, ASP warranttees the pulley so what do I have to lose.
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From: Laguna Niguel, CA
Originally posted by AndrewK
I dont think MB is going to warrantee your engine as soon as they see that pulley.
I dont think MB is going to warrantee your engine as soon as they see that pulley.
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I dont see Buell's point about trapping you with one tuner. Isnt it common to pick one tuner and stick with them anyway rather than mix and match products that were not designed for each other?
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Originally posted by AndrewK
I dont see Buell's point about trapping you with one tuner. Isnt it common to pick one tuner and stick with them anyway rather than mix and match products that were not designed for each other?
I dont see Buell's point about trapping you with one tuner. Isnt it common to pick one tuner and stick with them anyway rather than mix and match products that were not designed for each other?
Of course everyone has different priorities and that's what's great, there are products to fill every niche.
