*bites tounge*

 

I guess the oil companies are not paying more for crude oil so they are just charging more for fun.

I dont understand how people think the oil companies are the ones at fault here. Its supply and demand. Supply was hit by some shortages and the price of crude went up to new highs. If crude is flirting with 70 bucks a barrel what do you expect the price of a gallon of gas to do?

I you want to express displeasure to someone go tell your local governmental official to lower taxes on fuel being that a large chunk of the price for 1 gallon of gas is tax revenue.

 

I doubt Toyota would ever sell a plug in. They spent millions to convince people that they could be green without the hassle. And the enlarged battery packs would likely cut too severely into already non existent profits on hybrids.

Yeah, the car did get less mileage the longer you drove it...but since MPG is about miles per GALLON, all that matters is how much gas you use. The same is true for normal hybrids.. The more you drive them, the worse the mileage. THe more you are on the batteries, the better the mileage...because you use the gas motor less. On the highway, where the batteries can never recharge or take over for the gas engine, they get worse mileage than like an Echo or golf due to the extra wieght of the battery pack and second drivetrain.

 

Crude hasn't gone up as the same rate it does at the pump...and even still, when the prices rise, the gas in those tanks didn't come from the more expensive crude, but rather from older, cheaper stock. And when they go up, its always a huge jump. When its goes down, its only a penny at a time.

Today, gas was 3.05 a gallon for premium....3fricken oh five. I'm glad I got my bike, and my little inline four C -Class.

 

That's bull****. Our way of life isn't nore was it at stake. Our gluttony maybe. Besides, buying oil is just funding the terrorists.


Jim, you do know we have our own oil, right? And there are other countries that sell the **** too. It wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't have Saddams oil. We will NEVER make it right in Iraq. For over a century, others have tried. It would be no different if America were invaded. Say, by Canada, to save us from the oppressive rule of George Bush. We'd be blowing up every thing to get them canucks to leave.

 

I agree. Were all idiots, for sure. I really can't say I feel sorry for the complainers, especially when they are commuting in an H2 or something just as stupid. I do feel rather bad for people who are in low income brackets, and need to put on some serious miles for work or family...the extra cost does dig in when you don't have much to begin with.

 

Well gas prices are still low when you look at europe. I still think americans are spoiled babies and need to wake up. Either drill for your own oil where you know it is just waiting for you or just pay what the going price is. People dont want to fight for oil, drill for oil or pay for oil but they all want to run around in hummers and Escalades because they feel big and tough. Oh well I really dont care what the babies say. When gas if 5 buck a liter like in Italy then we are dealing with the reality of the rest of the world. We have been lucky for so long that a little reality check never hurts.

It's very simple to see if gas producers are increasing their profits by increasing prices. Go read the their 10q's and see if profits have gone though the roof everytime prices go up at the pumps. Guess what... they dont.

Demand increases around the world each year so prices will increase each year unless we expand production. Since the US frowns on drilling that will likely never happen. So this increase in world wide demand when put with a supply shock that occured 1-3 months ago clearly will increase prices but I dont see this $3.10 being a new price level for fuel. An anual increase of $.10 is likely but not a spike of 2.25 to 3.00

 

Two local DJ's on a radio station here complain about the price of gas nearly every day. One drives a big SUV, the other a pickup. One is really conservative, and its kinda funny to hear him talk of the 'big oil' boys sticking it to us...then nearly in the same sentence he's complaining its the tax on the gas that's the problem. Its a good thing these guys are funny, because their opinions on gas prices and politics is sheer idiocy.

 

Hey Outland, It's nice to hear someone else point this out. I've been half wondering when the rest of the world is going to get together and decide to put the smack-down on us for getting a little to bold with our agenda. Oh, I'm sure that that our cool-headed new ambassador the UN-John Bolton- will smooth things over.

That said, does your 2006 Harley Davidson Road King Classic get better or worse mileage than your 230 Kompressor? I know the depreciation is probably better with the HD.

 

Sounds like you're one of those people that thinks we (the USA) brought 9/11 upon ourselves
After 9/11, those people wanted us to try and "understand" why those pigs murdered thousands of completely innocent civilians

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by

a. Superman

b. Jay Lenno

c. Harry Potter

d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40



2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by

a. Olga Corbett

b. Sitting Bull

c. Arnold Schwarzenegger

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:

a. Lost Norwegians

b. Elvis

c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

a. John Dillinger

b. The King of Sweden

c. The Boy Scouts

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

a. A pizza delivery boy

b. Pee Wee Herman

c. Geraldo Rivera

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:

a. The Smurfs

b. Davy Jones

c. The Little Mermaid

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:

a. Captain Kidd

b. Charles Lindberg

c. Mother Teresa

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

a. Scooby Doo

b. The Tooth Fairy

c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

a. Richard Simmons

b. Grandma Moses

c. Michael Jordan

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

a. Mr. Rogers

b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems

c. The World Wrestling Federation

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd

b. The Supreme Court of Florida

c. Mr. Bean

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:

a. Enron

b. The Lutheran Church

c. The NFL

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

a. Bonnie and Clyde

b. Captain Kangaroo

c. Billy Graham

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

I think I'm beginning to "understand" them

 

The people who control the oil are paying about the same for it today as they did in 1972. Oil is like sand at the beach, it came with the planet. If the people who controlled it in 1972 were happy with $ 1.72 a barrel, they should be thrilled to receive $ 65.00 a barrel. Instead they support people who attack us.

If governments in Afganistan or Central Africa could become stable, investors would lay pipe that would bring enough oil to market to render OPEC impotent to control production and prices.

We better hope that this comes true because the desire for addtional oil in China and India is ramping up sharply. If supply is not increased we will be paying $ 150.00 to fill our tanks.

MIT this week displayed the worlds largest number ever seen without using a computer. They parked an Escalade next to a gas pump.

 

Sounds like you think that there is only "American History" and no such thing as "World History". Whether we would like to believe it or not there are quite a few people on this planet who think we are not just good guys in the white hats. Turn off Fox "News" and check out NPR or the BBC and you will see that there is another point of view.

Don't forget almost all of the 9/11 highjackers were Saudi. You know, our good buddies (oh wait, I mean Bush's buddies.) But that is why we attacked Saudi Arabia right, because they support terrorists. Oh wait, we attacked Iraq???

Thanks for taking the time to provide the multiple choice test! With its "Fair and balanced" viewpoint it will probably be adopted as part of the twelfth grade history curriculum in the Kansas Public School System for Fall 2005.

Extremism is a dangerous thing whether it is Muslim, Christian, Political, or Ideological.

-So I can stay on topic, I am EXTREMELY happy with my Kompressor and according to my car I got 26.5 mpg yesterday despite my driving like a grandmother. Well, a grandmother on crystal meth.

 

So what does all this gotta do with "C230 Depreciation"??? LOL

 

Yea! Just about every thread gets off topic in this forum.

 

I find Jim Banville's multiple choice test to be in complete harmony and "balance" with your remarks.

 

Its rather depressing what the world thinks of us.

Well, the first tank on the new bike, with all of 195miles passed, was just about 40mpg. Not great, but its a tight new motor, and all city driving. My 2003 was able to do around 50 on the highway, and that was a 103Cu stroker. THere's little depreciation at all on the Harley. Its a better investment than any Benz short of the SLR. And I love it. The C230 is good on gas as cars go...my Jeep isn't though. 16-18mpg Oh well, better than my previous Cherokee.

 

Um, no, it didn't come with the planet. It was installed later, by one of the previous owners.

You can buy more plane tickets at 65 a barrel.

Since when did they have oil? Opium, yes. Terrorists, check. Religous fundamentalist crappola, oh yeah, got that. Oil...no. And you do know the government in Afganistan is our own little puppet regime, don't you?




I think that will be a good thing. And in China and India, it won't be any better. Perhaps this will slow the chinese economy down enough to let the rest of the world catch its breath. Second largest...to the trade defecit for all the gas and cars we import.