HID's Help
10-01-2005, 08:20 PM
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C320 Sports Coupe 2003
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I own a 2003 C320 sport coupe. Ive decided to finally fix it up a bit and have some fun with it. The first thing I want to do is install some blue HID's to my car. But I was reading some thread around here that I would need to bring my car back to the dealer and have them reset my computer in order for it to recoginze the new lights. It said it would turn on but turn off right after. Can someone please comfirm this to me and how I should approcah this. I plan to buy an HID kit and have someone one to install it for me thanks in adicve.
10-01-2005, 08:27 PM
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1) Welcome to the forum
2) Specify the kit you're going to buy because it'll make a difference:
since you mentioned kit and not OEM
3) STFF some more because confirmation and approach have been discussed numerous times
2) Specify the kit you're going to buy because it'll make a difference:
since you mentioned kit and not OEM3) STFF some more because confirmation and approach have been discussed numerous times
10-01-2005, 09:22 PM
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Thank for the welcome and well these are the HId kit i plan to buy http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
Dont know if its recommanded but is there any way of having HID's without the hassle of restarting your computer at the dealer thanks.
Dont know if its recommanded but is there any way of having HID's without the hassle of restarting your computer at the dealer thanks.
10-02-2005, 12:06 AM
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Any bulb boasting of ºK over 4300 as brighter is blowing up your skirt. If
you fall for this, you're just swallowing this surgar pill line of advertising in
blind fashion. When you begin to go beyond 5000º the emitted light will
become tiring on your eyes with time. There is also added glare to where
it become not only annoying, but potentially dangerous to other drivers.
The "blue looks cool" factor may be neat at first, like blue eye shadow,
but at a certain point, you're just fooling yourself....and screwing others
on the road in the process.
you fall for this, you're just swallowing this surgar pill line of advertising in
blind fashion. When you begin to go beyond 5000º the emitted light will
become tiring on your eyes with time. There is also added glare to where
it become not only annoying, but potentially dangerous to other drivers.
The "blue looks cool" factor may be neat at first, like blue eye shadow,
but at a certain point, you're just fooling yourself....and screwing others
on the road in the process.
10-02-2005, 12:15 AM
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Couldn't agree more, i was in my cousin car a while ago and he had 8000k xenon, i'm the passenger and my eyes become really tired after a while, get the proper BIX.
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10-02-2005, 12:22 AM
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In addition, the graphic in the Ebay ad showing temperature is patently
flawed and misleading. DOT halogens prob peak at 3800º and is yellowish
white and should be labeled as such in the first ºK picture. The second
ºK picture (labeled 6kº) is more appropriate for HID 4300º. To say that
6000º is legal in all 50 states (USA) is outright untrue and is guaranteed
to generate a moving violation and fine for some folks.
found this photo in my notes on lighting. cant remember the source
flawed and misleading. DOT halogens prob peak at 3800º and is yellowish
white and should be labeled as such in the first ºK picture. The second
ºK picture (labeled 6kº) is more appropriate for HID 4300º. To say that
6000º is legal in all 50 states (USA) is outright untrue and is guaranteed
to generate a moving violation and fine for some folks.
found this photo in my notes on lighting. cant remember the source
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10-02-2005, 06:30 AM
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Not only that, but replacing stock halogens with this kit in the headlights of the MY03 is not only but also 
The effects of doing that on those has been discussed numerous times; effects on other drivers, etc.
but also The effects of doing that on those has been discussed numerous times; effects on other drivers, etc.
10-04-2005, 12:31 AM
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I disagree, the crew I hang with all have 8k, whether there behind me or beaming at me, its not that bad... unless you have really sensitive eyes, or your lights are beamed to high, or you've had someone 8k aimed to high..
10-04-2005, 03:10 AM
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There are some questions you need to ask any one that sells kits to convert to HID lamps:
Is the conversion beam pattern correct?
How is the conversion made to be beam pattern correct?
How is the conversion tested to ensure beam pattern correctness?
If it is not beam pattern correct, can they tell you how to fix it?
Do they know what a correct beam pattern looks like?
Are they aware that non-beam pattern correct conversions have serious disadvantages? A person could get hurt!
I can't see how a bulb designed for a projector housing can be installed in a reflector housing and get a proper beam. Since the lamps must have their base changed, it might be possible. Mid 90's Mercedes actually had such a lamp, but it has fallen from favor. One big problem with putting a HID lamp in a reflector is the insulation of the return wire. Most reflectors are metalized, and will arc to the return wire.
As explained by Raymond G above the color temperature of the lamp is either 4300K or 6000K. Only 4300K is used in OEM headlights. How would you measure it? Knowing that most people can't, sellers lie. The way they make it blue is to put a filter on the external glass. This raises the color temperatue, but decreases the light output significantly.
My experience is that Osram (Sylvania) or Philips HID bulbs get more blue as they age, and they last about 2,000 hours. Asian lamps (unknown manufacturer) seem to remain rather constant in color, but expire at about 600 hours.
Conversion to Bi-Xenon is possible, but you must change the housings. MbenzNL.com has more infomation on factory parts.
Is the conversion beam pattern correct?
How is the conversion made to be beam pattern correct?
How is the conversion tested to ensure beam pattern correctness?
If it is not beam pattern correct, can they tell you how to fix it?
Do they know what a correct beam pattern looks like?
Are they aware that non-beam pattern correct conversions have serious disadvantages? A person could get hurt!
I can't see how a bulb designed for a projector housing can be installed in a reflector housing and get a proper beam. Since the lamps must have their base changed, it might be possible. Mid 90's Mercedes actually had such a lamp, but it has fallen from favor. One big problem with putting a HID lamp in a reflector is the insulation of the return wire. Most reflectors are metalized, and will arc to the return wire.
As explained by Raymond G above the color temperature of the lamp is either 4300K or 6000K. Only 4300K is used in OEM headlights. How would you measure it? Knowing that most people can't, sellers lie. The way they make it blue is to put a filter on the external glass. This raises the color temperatue, but decreases the light output significantly.
My experience is that Osram (Sylvania) or Philips HID bulbs get more blue as they age, and they last about 2,000 hours. Asian lamps (unknown manufacturer) seem to remain rather constant in color, but expire at about 600 hours.
Conversion to Bi-Xenon is possible, but you must change the housings. MbenzNL.com has more infomation on factory parts.
Last edited by Moviela; 10-04-2005 at 03:12 AM.
