Superior Handling for CL203
07-15-2002, 10:59 PM
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Superior Handling for CL203
If you havent explored sway bars in addition to springs and shocks.....
The stock sway bars on the CL203 are a joke-
Adding a set of sway bars makes the CL203 razor sharp. Very crisp turn in- totally flat body stance. Highly recomended.
The stock sway bars on the CL203 are a joke-
Adding a set of sway bars makes the CL203 razor sharp. Very crisp turn in- totally flat body stance. Highly recomended.
07-15-2002, 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by tommy
How thick are they? Prices? Availability for ccoupe? Thanks!
How thick are they? Prices? Availability for ccoupe? Thanks!
22mm rear
The bars shown are Coupe bars-
In stock- $450 for the set.
VERY simple to install- no more than an hour if you have only a floor jack.
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07-15-2002, 11:19 PM
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Are they lighter than the Renntech bars? 
Actually, I think the Renntechs are something like $960 or so (no published thickness). Eibachs are $375 or so, and 24/22 mm.
Will have to give it some serious thought. Thanks for the info!
Actually, I think the Renntechs are something like $960 or so (no published thickness). Eibachs are $375 or so, and 24/22 mm.
Will have to give it some serious thought. Thanks for the info!
07-15-2002, 11:35 PM
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tommy, let me know if you get those! looks very sweet. i think the coupe handles pretty well right now, but i am curious about the sway bars.
i thought kleemann moved away from the pink though...
i thought kleemann moved away from the pink though...
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07-16-2002, 12:06 AM
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What about the mounting points - on the bimmer there were issues with aftermarket sways ripping apart the mount points. The additional stress that was more or less spread through the 'weaker' bars didn't transmit to the unibody/frame members... but attaching a stiff bar with no flex clearly moved the point of weakness.
If memory serves, the UUC Motorwerks bars had available some stiffeners for the mount points, wheras the eibachs didn't.
Kleeman: any comments on this? I'd hate to pop some on and find they rip off at the mounting!
TIA
If memory serves, the UUC Motorwerks bars had available some stiffeners for the mount points, wheras the eibachs didn't.
Kleeman: any comments on this? I'd hate to pop some on and find they rip off at the mounting!
TIA
07-16-2002, 12:24 AM
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Good point-
The front sway bar mount is direct to the subframe- no "hanging" apendages. Bushing "clamshell" is pressure cast alloy- I dont see a problem here.
The rear is direct to the subframe as well- however the bushing "clamshell" and subframe are steel- still no issues.
The rear is direct to the subframe as well- however the bushing "clamshell" and subframe are steel- still no issues.
07-16-2002, 12:55 AM
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Ride quality?
Brandon, I have a non C7 coupe and I really like the ride quality. But, I really want it to corner flatter. Will just the sway bars accomplish what i want-ie, flatter cornering with minimal impact on ride quality?
07-16-2002, 01:05 AM
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Adding sway bars will have little effect on the ride quality.
That said- sway bars connect one suspension arm to the arm on the opposite side. As you turn the bar tries to twist (torsion)- the stiffer (thicker) the bar the less twist (and less body roll). HOWEVER- a one wheel bump will effect the opposite wheel- slightly.
That said- sway bars connect one suspension arm to the arm on the opposite side. As you turn the bar tries to twist (torsion)- the stiffer (thicker) the bar the less twist (and less body roll). HOWEVER- a one wheel bump will effect the opposite wheel- slightly.
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I have the non C7 package. Will adding the sway bars make much difference to my ride? And I don't plan on upgrading the suspensions either?
Actually, I don't know much about sway bars. What do they do?
Actually, I don't know much about sway bars. What do they do?
07-16-2002, 09:00 AM
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kleemann, so for better handling would you go with a set of your springs or the Sway bars.
07-16-2002, 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
kleemann, so for better handling would you go with a set of your springs or the Sway bars.
kleemann, so for better handling would you go with a set of your springs or the Sway bars.
They focus on different aspects of handling. New springs will work best if you get new shocks at the same time, and a drop will affect your ride negatively, but look better.
The sways won't alter the appearance of your car (read: no obvious warranty issues), but will help keep the car stable in the twisties.
My only remaining concern would be clearance of the bars in regard to aftermarket exhausts.
07-16-2002, 01:43 PM
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I have the non C7 package. Will adding the sway bars make much difference to my ride? And I don't plan on upgrading the suspensions either?
Actually, I don't know much about sway bars. What do they do?
I have the non C7 package. Will adding the sway bars make much difference to my ride? And I don't plan on upgrading the suspensions either?
Actually, I don't know much about sway bars. What do they do?
07-16-2002, 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by r_1_c32
Any plan for kleemann to produce thicker sway bars for C32? Thx
Any plan for kleemann to produce thicker sway bars for C32? Thx
07-16-2002, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Lynn
The length and thickness of the bar determines its stiffness.
The length and thickness of the bar determines its stiffness.
Very good explanation. I'd give it 4 1/2 salesmonkeys out of 5.
07-16-2002, 02:09 PM
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Lynn, please try to keep it clean!
Very good explanation. I'd give it 4 1/2 salesmonkeys out of 5.
Lynn, please try to keep it clean!
Very good explanation. I'd give it 4 1/2 salesmonkeys out of 5.
Maybe I can trade the salemonkeys for the receptionist at my stealer.
07-17-2002, 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by r_1_c32
Any plan for kleemann to produce thicker sway bars for C32? Thx
Any plan for kleemann to produce thicker sway bars for C32? Thx
