Its Done- Home Depot Customized Intake for M271
01-06-2006, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by razorfish228
Take the PVC pipe and make a "Spud Launcher". I've seen these kids make them using the PVC pipe and than shooting potatoes out of them. 
(Save the second image spudgun as "spudgun.swf" its a flash animation I made quickly back in the day!)
As far as the fan goes, it wont work. The engine draws too much air for that to keep up and it will just add to restriction.
-edit- animation wont work... PM me if you want to see the how my design worked...
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01-06-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by johnp
I'd try a speed shop or check out Summit's catalog.I'd also paint the pipe black. Maybe wrinkle paint Nice job
01-06-2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dalazernet
Wait.... you guys don't have both intakes connected with hoses? I guess this is something new they did on the 06 engines....
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01-06-2006, 11:13 PM
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally Posted by DACHIGGA
On the V6s they have 2 intakes conected.
Something new? I get a laugh out of this...why would both intake ports be there in the first place?
01-06-2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Outland
Its always been that way.
Something new? I get a laugh out of this...why would both intake ports be there in the first place?
Something new? I get a laugh out of this...why would both intake ports be there in the first place?
01-07-2006, 12:23 AM
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great idea on that pvc, although probably not show quality. i would find a stainless pipe for original ricers and cut those up, heck there's even carbon fiber pipes you can get, anyone?
01-07-2006, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RedW203
great idea on that pvc, although probably not show quality. i would find a stainless pipe for original ricers and cut those up, heck there's even carbon fiber pipes you can get, anyone?
with blanket and then find a carbon fiber sheet and wrap for looks.
01-07-2006, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
So after the huge Intake thread and many debates I finally replaced the stock cloth hose with a PVC pipe, took out the baffles in the airbox and put in the K&N Filter. The Results? Minimal, which was sort of expected. There is a sound difference a sort of whoosh and more noticable SC whine, the engine sounds a little raspier. The difference is more noticable past 40 MPH and best at about 60, my guess is proving that the PVC pipe has a sort of short ram effect. Im still brainstorming on how to efficiently connect that second intake scoop, or just rob that big *** scoop from my friends Subaru STI, that would be cool too, I was thinking maybe connecting the box directly to the scoop thats closer but that would take a little more cutting. The project was very simple and didnt take too long. I have ALOT of left over PVC pipe if anybody in the NYC area wants, Home Depot made me buy the whole damn 10 foot pipe just to get a small piece. So far Ive put about 35 miles on the car with this new set up. I really dont know how much of the changes are just in my head, but it seems like a harmless thing, and it doesnt look AS ghetto as I thought. Im going to get some real nice looking clamps made for those ricers soon as i man up to spend 50 bucks on just those, and any idea where i can get couplers made for a car and not drainage?
Leave that other air intake alone. The distance, slope and diameter are aimed at keeping large puddles out of the engine. Unless you think its cool to rebuild your engine out of your own pocket.
01-07-2006, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
I have ALOT of left over PVC pipe if anybody in the NYC area wants, Home Depot made me buy the whole damn 10 foot pipe just to get a small piece. and any idea where i can get couplers made for a car and not drainage?
i'm at the other side of the river
we are short 5-7 feet of pvc pipes
let's meet
01-07-2006, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt Nemo o2
Hmm... Look at the pic below! That was my Senior year physics project in HS. Had a lawyer predialed when I went to school with it as this was December of 2001, and at that time here in NY, security was a little hightened!!! Used compressed air up to 125 PSI (safety set to pop at 125, if I had strong enough material I could go up to 3500 PSI). At 90 PSI I shot a spud over 600 feet with a 30 degree launch angle WITH accuracy!
(Save the second image spudgun as "spudgun.swf" its a flash animation I made quickly back in the day!)
As far as the fan goes, it wont work. The engine draws too much air for that to keep up and it will just add to restriction.
-edit- animation wont work... PM me if you want to see the how my design worked...
(Save the second image spudgun as "spudgun.swf" its a flash animation I made quickly back in the day!)
As far as the fan goes, it wont work. The engine draws too much air for that to keep up and it will just add to restriction.
-edit- animation wont work... PM me if you want to see the how my design worked...
01-07-2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by benzmodz
Leave that other air intake alone. The distance, slope and diameter are aimed at keeping large puddles out of the engine. Unless you think its cool to rebuild your engine out of your own pocket.
01-07-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
But the V6 uses both of them...is it more high risk than the I4?
lets meet up i need a peice of that pvc im from new york wonder how its oging to sound with my eisnamann racing exuahst and my k&n airfilter im puting on next week
01-07-2006, 12:48 PM
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Has anyone come up with numbers supporting this supposed improvement? I'm not trying to sound like a pessimist, however a lot of thought went into the stock configuration, and replacing it with something from the hardware store just makes me wonder.
Are there any hard numbers as to what the intake temp was before and after the mod? From my own side, I've wondered about the intake tubes on the 112 engine in my C, but how long is the air in the tube as it's passing through and can heat soak really occur?
I'm not trying to be negative, it's just that in my own case I really try to avoid the "placebo" effect of "hey, I spent X number of dollars on a mod and now my car feels faster!"
Are there any hard numbers as to what the intake temp was before and after the mod? From my own side, I've wondered about the intake tubes on the 112 engine in my C, but how long is the air in the tube as it's passing through and can heat soak really occur?
I'm not trying to be negative, it's just that in my own case I really try to avoid the "placebo" effect of "hey, I spent X number of dollars on a mod and now my car feels faster!"
01-07-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mbbodytech
Has anyone come up with numbers supporting this supposed improvement? I'm not trying to sound like a pessimist, however a lot of thought went into the stock configuration, and replacing it with something from the hardware store just makes me wonder.
Are there any hard numbers as to what the intake temp was before and after the mod? From my own side, I've wondered about the intake tubes on the 112 engine in my C, but how long is the air in the tube as it's passing through and can heat soak really occur?
I'm not trying to be negative, it's just that in my own case I really try to avoid the "placebo" effect of "hey, I spent X number of dollars on a mod and now my car feels faster!"
Are there any hard numbers as to what the intake temp was before and after the mod? From my own side, I've wondered about the intake tubes on the 112 engine in my C, but how long is the air in the tube as it's passing through and can heat soak really occur?
I'm not trying to be negative, it's just that in my own case I really try to avoid the "placebo" effect of "hey, I spent X number of dollars on a mod and now my car feels faster!"
UPDATE- Im taking out the PVC, I bought a piece of exhaust pipe and some heat-wrap I think Im going to go with changing out the PVC with the metal pipe and heat wrap. I doubt theres going to be a difference but once again Im just experimenting.
01-07-2006, 01:30 PM
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[QUOTE=mbbodytech]Has anyone come up with numbers supporting this supposed improvement? I'm not trying to sound like a pessimist, however a lot of thought went into the stock configuration, and replacing it with something from the hardware store just makes me wonder.
Are there any hard numbers as to what the intake temp was before and after the mod? From my own side, I've wondered about the intake tubes on the 112 engine in my C, but how long is the air in the tube as it's passing through and can heat soak really occur?QUOTE]
No one ever has numbers. I think it's more a personal feeling of accomplishment removing something stock and replacing it with something of equal or lesser efficiency that you've made yourself
Some also believe it adds to the esthetic look and sound of the engine. Modding is art....right? And yes, the ambient air temperature to your 112 engine is increased before it reaches it's destination but how much is another question. I doubt enough to make a measurable difference. The only way to reduce it would be to chill the incoming air or reroute it through holes in your hood directly on top of the filters.
Are there any hard numbers as to what the intake temp was before and after the mod? From my own side, I've wondered about the intake tubes on the 112 engine in my C, but how long is the air in the tube as it's passing through and can heat soak really occur?QUOTE]
No one ever has numbers. I think it's more a personal feeling of accomplishment removing something stock and replacing it with something of equal or lesser efficiency that you've made yourself
Some also believe it adds to the esthetic look and sound of the engine. Modding is art....right? And yes, the ambient air temperature to your 112 engine is increased before it reaches it's destination but how much is another question. I doubt enough to make a measurable difference. The only way to reduce it would be to chill the incoming air or reroute it through holes in your hood directly on top of the filters.
01-07-2006, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by c230 o5
lets meet up i need a peice of that pvc im from new york wonder how its oging to sound with my eisnamann racing exuahst and my k&n airfilter im puting on next week
01-07-2006, 02:50 PM
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You MUST bring that device to the Northeast AMGFest this summer!
01-07-2006, 05:48 PM
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So I switched the PVC with a piece of 3" exhaust pipe and heat wrapped it. Im having a lil difficulty with the plastic piece at the airbox because of the limited flexibilty of the metal pipe. Sound and performance no difference.
01-08-2006, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
So I switched the PVC with a piece of 3" exhaust pipe and heat wrapped it. Im having a lil difficulty with the plastic piece at the airbox because of the limited flexibilty of the metal pipe. Sound and performance no difference.
01-08-2006, 03:42 AM
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Pics coming tommorow. And after tonites little drive on the FDR and BQE Im almost positive the top end is getting more power, pulls alot harder past 65-70, took it to 100 and it kept pulling, Ill have to get on I-80 to do the 120+ test. I really do wish someone would tell me a place that would let me do a friendly dyno.
01-08-2006, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by StillKickin
Pics coming tommorow. And after tonites little drive on the FDR and BQE Im almost positive the top end is getting more power, pulls alot harder past 65-70, took it to 100 and it kept pulling, Ill have to get on I-80 to do the 120+ test. I really do wish someone would tell me a place that would let me do a friendly dyno.
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Originally Posted by mig888
I was thinking to maybe adapt a section of the stock intake cloth underneath the exhaust pipe just to make sure rain goes somewhere other than your intake, unless your completely confident the K&N can do that for you..?
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a word of caution
I just wanted to interject with a word of advice on the replacement pipes being shown here. The primary reason for the cloth hose is to have a flexible coupling between the fixed component, ie the scoop mounted on the cross-member behind the grill, and the airbox which experiences considerable small amplitude motion. The airbox is mounted to the engine, and, therefore, shifts rotationally as the engine is revved and experiences vibrational motion along all three axes at idle rpm. Having a rigid PVC or aluminium coupling can result in damage to the airbox/filter housing. The cloth is a better design than than the accordian style rubber or plastic hoses other manufacturers use, but it is imperative to have a flexible attachment between the two components.
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