crazy engine setup
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crazy engine setup
how about a brabus 3.0L engine litre capacity increase for the C240
AND THEN. a supercharger
car would drink gas but it would also dust c32
does anybody know how much the brabus 3.0L would cost....parts wont be that expensive i think...but LOTS of labour...
AND THEN. a supercharger
car would drink gas but it would also dust c32 does anybody know how much the brabus 3.0L would cost....parts wont be that expensive i think...but LOTS of labour...
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did you just say "brabus" and "won't be that expensive" in the same sentence? increasing your displacement to 3.0L probably wouldn't even make you faster than a C320 (3.2L). brabus makes a 3.8L kit that makes 300hp... still not faster than a c32... probably cheaper to just sell your car and buy a c32
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I had a C240 once, and I also considered dumping some serious money into trying to make it go faster. One of the most effective ways to really improve the acceleration of the C240 is to supercharge it. Brabus did offer an increased displacement conversion to 3.8L, but it was REALLY expensive and the numbers weren't that great. Kleeman supercharging gave the largest power gains per dollar, so I took a serious look at what Kleeman offerred. In the end, I felt it just wasn't worth it, because the end result is still not that impressive.
The problem with the C240's 2.6L V6 is that the baseline power numbers are so low in this current climate of rapidly growing HP in cars. With only 168 HP and 177 lb-ft torque, it is really underpowered and the acceleration times really reflect that (around 9 seconds for the sprint to 60mph).
With the Kleeman supercharger and ECU upgrade, the C240's numbers improve to 280 HP and 260 lb-ft torque. The price for the parts alone is $11500 USD. Doing this in Canada would have costed close to $20000 Cdn dollars when you convert to Cdn dollars, and add shipping/labour costs/taxes.
And the end result is a car which can perform slightly better than the current C350. It's not even close to a stock C32 or C55.
If you're really interested in more power, trade the C240 in and spend the money you would have used to supercharge to upgrade to a 2nd hand C32 AMG. That is a much smarter move, IMO.
In the end, I just traded my C240 in and got a C55......I've never been happier from a car point of view than I am now.
The problem with the C240's 2.6L V6 is that the baseline power numbers are so low in this current climate of rapidly growing HP in cars. With only 168 HP and 177 lb-ft torque, it is really underpowered and the acceleration times really reflect that (around 9 seconds for the sprint to 60mph).
With the Kleeman supercharger and ECU upgrade, the C240's numbers improve to 280 HP and 260 lb-ft torque. The price for the parts alone is $11500 USD. Doing this in Canada would have costed close to $20000 Cdn dollars when you convert to Cdn dollars, and add shipping/labour costs/taxes.
And the end result is a car which can perform slightly better than the current C350. It's not even close to a stock C32 or C55.If you're really interested in more power, trade the C240 in and spend the money you would have used to supercharge to upgrade to a 2nd hand C32 AMG. That is a much smarter move, IMO.
In the end, I just traded my C240 in and got a C55......I've never been happier from a car point of view than I am now.
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Originally Posted by Wide w203
brabus wont touch it in the first place, they make you start from a 320 engine. its a swap and start from a 320 or nothing.
second of all a displacement will be 20k+
third you cannot s/c it, it will blow
second of all a displacement will be 20k+
third you cannot s/c it, it will blow
because it's a swap it's easier for them to take the 320 engine and make another 3.8L engine instead of taking the 240 engine that need a lot more work.
You could do what Dave did which is dropping a 4.3 V8 or a 5.5 V8 from one of those totalled AMGs. It'll be far more efficient.
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Originally Posted by advans
if u get a 350 and somehow supercharge that and get everything done, u might get a chance...well theres this other option that u wanna beat a c32
get a c55 motor
get a c55 motor
The engine swap would be an even bigger nightmare - doesn't the 55 use a CLK front end to allow the V8 to fit?
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Originally Posted by Wide w203
brabus wont touch it in the first place, they make you start from a 320 engine. its a swap and start from a 320 or nothing.
second of all a displacement will be 20k+
third you cannot s/c it, it will blow
second of all a displacement will be 20k+
third you cannot s/c it, it will blow
On Brabus' website, it lists the following:
For C 240
BRABUS 3.8 V6 capacity increase, 272 hp / 200 kW, 381 Nm, 255 km/h
BRABUS 3.8 S V6 capacity increase, 300 hp / 220 kW, 395 Nm, 262 km/h
I agree that the price for such a conversion is insanely expensive at > $20000 USD, not including labour.
I think we all agree with the bottom line: it isn't worth the money to try to seriously upgrade the power of the C240.
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i thought in addition to an engine swap, some transmission modification must be made to take in the additional power increase.
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Originally Posted by PC Valkyrie
hmmm....when I was exploring the possibilities with my old C240, I thought there was a Brabus increased displacement option for the C240 to 3.8L. The C320 and C240 basically have the same engine, but the bore and stroke were increased in the 3.2L V6....isn't that right?
On Brabus' website, it lists the following:
For C 240
BRABUS 3.8 V6 capacity increase, 272 hp / 200 kW, 381 Nm, 255 km/h
BRABUS 3.8 S V6 capacity increase, 300 hp / 220 kW, 395 Nm, 262 km/h
I agree that the price for such a conversion is insanely expensive at > $20000 USD, not including labour.
I think we all agree with the bottom line: it isn't worth the money to try to seriously upgrade the power of the C240.
On Brabus' website, it lists the following:
For C 240
BRABUS 3.8 V6 capacity increase, 272 hp / 200 kW, 381 Nm, 255 km/h
BRABUS 3.8 S V6 capacity increase, 300 hp / 220 kW, 395 Nm, 262 km/h
I agree that the price for such a conversion is insanely expensive at > $20000 USD, not including labour.
I think we all agree with the bottom line: it isn't worth the money to try to seriously upgrade the power of the C240.
you can refer them as conversion, but in reality what Brabus does is they remove your 240/320 engine and then put a 3.8 or 3.8 S that's already built from another engine into your car. When I talk to them regarding another customer's car they say they much rather take the 320 than a 240 engine.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
PC,
you can refer them as conversion, but in reality what Brabus does is they remove your 240/320 engine and then put a 3.8 or 3.8 S that's already built from another engine into your car. When I talk to them regarding another customer's car they say they much rather take the 320 than a 240 engine.
you can refer them as conversion, but in reality what Brabus does is they remove your 240/320 engine and then put a 3.8 or 3.8 S that's already built from another engine into your car. When I talk to them regarding another customer's car they say they much rather take the 320 than a 240 engine.
well realistically, in the US no one has ever done this and probably never will. i dont believe they have a 3.8 engine in stock in the first place and if they dont they will have to bore a 320. 240 and 320 engines are NOT the same. basically what im getting at is this would be a bad idea
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Originally Posted by Wide w203
well realistically, in the US no one has ever done this and probably never will. i dont believe they have a 3.8 engine in stock in the first place and if they dont they will have to bore a 320. 240 and 320 engines are NOT the same. basically what im getting at is this would be a bad idea
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Originally Posted by Wide w203
are you sure its real ? ive talked to them before and they said they never did it. but either way **** it this is pointless talking about it
http://www.benzworld.org/gallery/sho...e=3.8%20BRABUS
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Originally Posted by SEXSPHERE
I think he just changed his engine cover into brabus custom made engine cover 
Last edited by FrankW; Mar 15, 2006 at 11:07 PM.
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