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04-28-2006, 05:04 PM
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I live in NY and I see just as many C Class competitors on the streets including:
BMW 3 series
Audi A4
Lexus IS
Acura TL
etc..
You're crazy if you think there are more C Classes than any of these cars on the streets. There might be more C classes than other Benz's but those other Brand cars are just as popular.
As for as the non-luxury models like Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Mazda 3, etc.. These types of cars are even more common.
Maybe you were only paying attention to the C classes instead of counting all the cars.
If you want to do an unscientific search of what cars are popular in certain areas just go to autotrader and search in specific zip codes and see how many are for sale for each car model.
BMW 3 series
Audi A4
Lexus IS
Acura TL
etc..
You're crazy if you think there are more C Classes than any of these cars on the streets. There might be more C classes than other Benz's but those other Brand cars are just as popular.
As for as the non-luxury models like Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Mazda 3, etc.. These types of cars are even more common.
Maybe you were only paying attention to the C classes instead of counting all the cars.
If you want to do an unscientific search of what cars are popular in certain areas just go to autotrader and search in specific zip codes and see how many are for sale for each car model.
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04-29-2006, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fasteddie
Barely go offroad?????
Who won Paris-Dakar stock class SUV about 5 or 6 years in a row???? Not Toyota, or Jeep!!!!!
ML Actually does not to badly for off road....just turn off the ESP first!!!! The old ML has a short wheel base, tight turning radius, narrow track - good qualities for off road. (Which also contribute to truck like ride) Unfortunately, it doesn't have locking Diffs.....but then again it is a drive and forget, so the wife can use it too!!!!
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Who won Paris-Dakar stock class SUV about 5 or 6 years in a row???? Not Toyota, or Jeep!!!!!
ML Actually does not to badly for off road....just turn off the ESP first!!!! The old ML has a short wheel base, tight turning radius, narrow track - good qualities for off road. (Which also contribute to truck like ride) Unfortunately, it doesn't have locking Diffs.....but then again it is a drive and forget, so the wife can use it too!!!!
Ed.
04-29-2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Outland
Jeep used to roll out a video at press events of a second Gen Jeep Grand Cherokee hammering it thru some deep mud....while pulling an ML. They dumped that in a hurry after the, um, uh, "merger of equals".
I will agree....no substitute for locking diffs. And in deep mud...once the disks get wet & muddy, ML is not the best vehicle. Get a G-Wagon!!!!
However, I like mine...fantastic on snow/ice, especially with ESP. My bosses Grand Cherokee has to turn on the 4WD, and once he does, for some reason it won't turn off. Other than that, and the fact that his 4 year old Jeep is a piece of sh*T that is falling apart......If my Boss had a choice again, he would pick the ML!!!!
Yea, Jeep is tha way to go!!!
04-30-2006, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fasteddie
I will agree....no substitute for locking diffs. And in deep mud...once the disks get wet & muddy, ML is not the best vehicle. Get a G-Wagon!!!!
However, I like mine...fantastic on snow/ice, especially with ESP. My bosses Grand Cherokee has to turn on the 4WD, and once he does, for some reason it won't turn off. Other than that, and the fact that his 4 year old Jeep is a piece of sh*T that is falling apart......If my Boss had a choice again, he would pick the ML!!!!
Yea, Jeep is tha way to go!!!
However, I like mine...fantastic on snow/ice, especially with ESP. My bosses Grand Cherokee has to turn on the 4WD, and once he does, for some reason it won't turn off. Other than that, and the fact that his 4 year old Jeep is a piece of sh*T that is falling apart......If my Boss had a choice again, he would pick the ML!!!!
Yea, Jeep is tha way to go!!!
04-30-2006, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by b3d_sage
Mine handles wonderfully for a small sedan
for just one or two people, the interior is just fine. I'm ~6ft and have plenty of space. Also, I love having a small car that I can fit in anywhere.
even a base 230k isn't even at all comparable to any Honda. Honda's are just made cheaply and, while a C230k isn't exactly a nice Benz, a Honda cannot come near the quality of a C-class.
for just one or two people, the interior is just fine. I'm ~6ft and have plenty of space. Also, I love having a small car that I can fit in anywhere.
even a base 230k isn't even at all comparable to any Honda. Honda's are just made cheaply and, while a C230k isn't exactly a nice Benz, a Honda cannot come near the quality of a C-class.
youre right. the honda wont be in the shop nearly as much as the c class.
04-30-2006, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tifosiv122
Let's see the choices for the entry luxury catagory:
MB C-Class
BMW 3 Series
Audi A4
Jaguar X-Type
Lexus ES
Skipping over the first two, the Audi is essentially a VW with a different badge. Yeah, way to waste money. The Lexus is essentially a Toyota Camry, another waste of money. By waste of money, I sugguest buying the lesser named counterpart. Now, the Jag is a Ford Mondeo, but since you can't get one in the States, I guess it's a bit better. It is also AWD.
Leaving two choices, the MB and the BMW.
Or, I guess we could be the ultimate poser and drive an ML like yourself. Explain to me why you bought an ML. By far the worst MB ever created. First, it's made in the USA, second it has the worst service record of any Mercedes ever produced. Third, it can barely go off-road. Why didn't you just buy a Jeep for half the price?
Erik
MB C-Class
BMW 3 Series
Audi A4
Jaguar X-Type
Lexus ES
Skipping over the first two, the Audi is essentially a VW with a different badge. Yeah, way to waste money. The Lexus is essentially a Toyota Camry, another waste of money. By waste of money, I sugguest buying the lesser named counterpart. Now, the Jag is a Ford Mondeo, but since you can't get one in the States, I guess it's a bit better. It is also AWD.
Leaving two choices, the MB and the BMW.
Or, I guess we could be the ultimate poser and drive an ML like yourself. Explain to me why you bought an ML. By far the worst MB ever created. First, it's made in the USA, second it has the worst service record of any Mercedes ever produced. Third, it can barely go off-road. Why didn't you just buy a Jeep for half the price?
Erik
ever heard of the IS 350? didnt think so. but you will hear it when it blows your cars doors off passing you. but you probably still wont see it. I love mine.
04-30-2006, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by digital_b
ever heard of the IS 350? didnt think so. but you will hear it when it blows your cars doors off passing you. but you probably still wont see it. I love mine.
04-30-2006, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
speed isn't everything because your IS 350 isn't the fastest car on the road for that price. The Subaru WRX STI and Mitsubishi Evo IX are much faster cars and they cost thousands less.
I didnt say it is. but its much faster than yours. provable anyday. and its better built and better looking. I used to own a benz but now I realize that they are overrated. hard to accept but its true.
04-30-2006, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by digital_b
I didnt say it is. but its much faster than yours. provable anyday. and its better built and better looking. I used to own a benz but now I realize that they are overrated. hard to accept but its true.
04-30-2006, 09:23 AM
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I just test drove the IS 350 RWD, that just blew me away. It's going to be an addition to the C 230. for the same price i'm getting much more then the C 230. for the same price i'm getting a 306 Hp engine with 277 ft lbs of tourque, keyless entry, 14 speakers, navi, heated ventilated seats, power seats, sun roof, auto swipers all for 39 thousand, get me a new benz with the same stuff for the same price, I'll be all over it. For now i'm getting a new lexus, needless to say the benz is still a wicked car, but mercedes will need to amp it up to keep up with other manufacturers.....my opinion....
04-30-2006, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by digital_b
I didnt say it is. but its much faster than yours. provable anyday. and its better built and better looking. I used to own a benz but now I realize that they are overrated. hard to accept but its true.
Nice Car...don't get rear-ended by and M or a AMG or something like that.
04-30-2006, 02:57 PM
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One with 4 wheels
Originally Posted by fasteddie
Nice Car...don't get rear-ended by and M or a AMG or something like that.
If you don't have anything constructive to say other than "My car is better than yours" kindly leave and go schmuck around in the Toyota, I mean, Lexus forums.
04-30-2006, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by harpz
I just test drove the IS 350 RWD, that just blew me away. It's going to be an addition to the C 230. for the same price i'm getting much more then the C 230. for the same price i'm getting a 306 Hp engine with 277 ft lbs of tourque, keyless entry, 14 speakers, navi, heated ventilated seats, power seats, sun roof, auto swipers all for 39 thousand, get me a new benz with the same stuff for the same price, I'll be all over it. For now i'm getting a new lexus, needless to say the benz is still a wicked car, but mercedes will need to amp it up to keep up with other manufacturers.....my opinion....
good luck with that one
04-30-2006, 04:04 PM
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I didn't mean basic with no options, i have a price quote for a C230 at 38,000 and I"m comparing it to the IS 350 at around the same price
C230K Options:
Black leather
Power Dr Seat and Sterring colum
Split rear folding seats
320 entertainment package
324 Sunroof Package
7 Speed autp
Command and Heated front seats
C230K Options:
Black leather
Power Dr Seat and Sterring colum
Split rear folding seats
320 entertainment package
324 Sunroof Package
7 Speed autp
Command and Heated front seats
04-30-2006, 05:03 PM
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As of May 15th: 2006 C230 Black on Black
I love the Lexus. When I was buying a new car I drove the Lexus IS250 (since its closer to my price range), the new 3 series and the C230. The BMW and Lexus probably had the edge on speed and sporty, however my main concern is comfort (being 28 and having a down right shotty lower back calls for such concerns). The Benz was the most comfortable while still being sporty.
Everyone has different factors. Mine lead to a Benz...that thing is also one good looking ride.
Everyone has different factors. Mine lead to a Benz...that thing is also one good looking ride.
04-30-2006, 05:05 PM
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if you are going to consider the IS 350, you might as well consider the Infiniti G35 and bmw 330i too. They are all within the same price range and have similar performance.
04-30-2006, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by digital_b
ever heard of the IS 350? didnt think so. but you will hear it when it blows your cars doors off passing you. but you probably still wont see it. I love mine.
Sports inspiring my a$$, they don't even off the larger engine in stick. Blah.
Erik
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04-30-2006, 06:07 PM
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a quarter mile at a time
Originally Posted by harpz
I didn't mean basic with no options, i have a price quote for a C230 at 38,000 and I"m comparing it to the IS 350 at around the same price
C230K Options:
Black leather
Power Dr Seat and Sterring colum
Split rear folding seats
320 entertainment package
324 Sunroof Package
7 Speed autp
Command and Heated front seats
C230K Options:
Black leather
Power Dr Seat and Sterring colum
Split rear folding seats
320 entertainment package
324 Sunroof Package
7 Speed autp
Command and Heated front seats
04-30-2006, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by r3v1ls
When was the last time someone got complemented for driving a Honda?
Not around here, not While I live and breath!!!
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04-30-2006, 09:08 PM
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I didn't check the MSRP, jst the sticker price and promised i'd get a good deal so i guess i am, i concede...lol...
The guy said he'd give me the lex for 38,475
as for the original question the benz's are fun to drive and u can go pretty fast in them and not to mention the little 3 pointed star on the hood, or it's made in germany.....
btw the standard equipment offered by the company is much more then the benz, such as keyless go i don't have the entire list but was impressed by the car, im going to check out the C 350, any complaints on that car?
The guy said he'd give me the lex for 38,475
as for the original question the benz's are fun to drive and u can go pretty fast in them and not to mention the little 3 pointed star on the hood, or it's made in germany.....
btw the standard equipment offered by the company is much more then the benz, such as keyless go i don't have the entire list but was impressed by the car, im going to check out the C 350, any complaints on that car?
