MB C230 or Lexus IS250 (now I'm not so sure)
05-02-2006, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
lol Ling, tell me you're not gonna trade your C55 for an IS350....
05-02-2006, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TA-9FF
lol Ling, tell me you're not gonna trade your C55 for an IS350....
05-02-2006, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by diamondblak05
Typical answer you'll find here at mbworld. Most of the people here are highly ingrained that an MB is a superior car to any Japanese car...perhaps true in performance and status but not in terms of other things like reliability, depreciation, maintenance, dealer service...so if you're looking for some honest answers or opinions, you probably won't find it. I simply bought mine based on pure looks and status. Other than that, I know that down the road (after warranty expires), it'll probably cost me an arm and a leg to keep it running properly. If you plan to keep it for awhile, buy the Lexus. If you're planning on leasing it or keeping it for only a few years, buy the MB. But in the end, it's all about personal perferences and money. It's your call.
Japanese are just as unreliable as any other car.
05-02-2006, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
Yes, I agree, the Benz navigation isn't that great. The Lexus navigation is one of the best. The best navigation is the Acura one.
The Jaguar cars use the same supplier for navigations as Lexus, although theirs seems much more difficult to use.
Lexus, you should seriously consider the navigation. Mercedes, you can go either way. Notice the stitching on sdsilverm3's seats, white stitching, a perfect contrast. And the wood trim around the radio, the chrome strips. Beautiful. Makes a detail oriented person like me quite proud.
Sigh... I really need to get a Rolls Royce.
The Jaguar cars use the same supplier for navigations as Lexus, although theirs seems much more difficult to use.
Lexus, you should seriously consider the navigation. Mercedes, you can go either way. Notice the stitching on sdsilverm3's seats, white stitching, a perfect contrast. And the wood trim around the radio, the chrome strips. Beautiful. Makes a detail oriented person like me quite proud.
Sigh... I really need to get a Rolls Royce.
05-02-2006, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
I liked the IS's steering wheel. The Steering wheel was of decent thickness and diameter. Now that you mention that though. I do remember one thing about that steering wheel.
I wear driving gloves, just to let you know, and I noticed that the IS's steering wheel had very sharp edges and it's more TRIANGULAR SHAPED. You can't really tell in the picture, but once you hold onto it, it's a bit weird. If you hold onto it at the thicker areas, it's a bit more natural feeling but still very triangular. The Mercedes steering wheels are almost perfectly round.
I'm not saying the steering wheel is in the shape of a triangle, I'm saying the grip itself is triangular. Hope I'm not confusing anybody.
I wear driving gloves, just to let you know, and I noticed that the IS's steering wheel had very sharp edges and it's more TRIANGULAR SHAPED. You can't really tell in the picture, but once you hold onto it, it's a bit weird. If you hold onto it at the thicker areas, it's a bit more natural feeling but still very triangular. The Mercedes steering wheels are almost perfectly round.
I'm not saying the steering wheel is in the shape of a triangle, I'm saying the grip itself is triangular. Hope I'm not confusing anybody.
05-02-2006, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
I really like where Ferrari put the Navigation system: right on the instrument panel. I wish other car companies would do the same.
That's just a TFT display. The 612 has that as well. I have access to the Ferrari Owner's website and thus am able to obtain all Ferrari model owner's manuals and that's how I stay informed.
I like the Ferrari's interior, notice the stitched leather everywhere.
05-02-2006, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
Ill take the Ferrari though...
The C-class comand only displays very basic information on the instrument panel like this:
05-02-2006, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by e1000
the middle part of it looks like it's from an old car. Sorry guys, it's one of the FIRST things I look at in a car is if I like the steering wheel at first sight. Why? It's because more than anything, it's what I'll spend a lot of my time staring at. That and the instrument cluster. Just HATE the steering wheel on the IS250/IS350. Another one I hate is the G35/FX35. I know it sounds odd but it's a big thing for me.
Going back to the Infiniti steering wheel, the switches and buttons on the steering wheel weren't backlit in the 2004 model! They corrected that for the 2005 update.
I wouldn't say that I hate those steering wheels, but they're definitely not what I consider "great" steering wheels. The Mercedes steering wheel is sublime.
05-02-2006, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
haha. me too.
The C-class comand only displays very basic information on the instrument panel like this:
The C-class comand only displays very basic information on the instrument panel like this:
05-02-2006, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
Ill take the Ferrari though...
Best cars for the money however are probably Mercedes and BMW, and as we can see, the Lexus is also very good for the money. I really wouldn't go for anything less than that.
05-02-2006, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
I dont think my C CLass controls on the wheel are backlit...
05-02-2006, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MHPHOCKEY
I could never drive that Phantom...To "in your face" for my taste.
Yes, it is somewhat showy. But still, car-wise, it is phenomenal. You've got the performance, the handling, the luxury. I never considered any Mercedes car to be luxurious. Even the S600 to me was bare bones. But the Phantom, that's fairly luxurious. Mercedes is very functional. The Phantom... well, it's everything. And for that kind of money (it's about triple an S600) it better be 3 times as good.
05-02-2006, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
Lol, that picture in the navigation screen depicts an area that I'm in all the time. Are you in the Silicon Valley area?
05-02-2006, 02:05 AM
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All of the above is true, but it comes down to personal preference. If (When) I have an absurd amount of money Im going to have the Ferrari, Continental GT, and such, but not the Phantom. I've been in one, they are amazing, still VERY showy.
05-02-2006, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by patrick_y
The new Ferrari 599 actually doesn't have a navigation system.
That's just a TFT display. The 612 has that as well. I have access to the Ferrari Owner's website and thus am able to obtain all Ferrari model owner's manuals and that's how I stay informed.
I like the Ferrari's interior, notice the stitched leather everywhere.
That's just a TFT display. The 612 has that as well. I have access to the Ferrari Owner's website and thus am able to obtain all Ferrari model owner's manuals and that's how I stay informed.
I like the Ferrari's interior, notice the stitched leather everywhere.
05-02-2006, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
Yep. that's where I am
Otherwise, apart from the fact that I have the 200 series, our car are spec'd rather similarily. We both have the lighting, sunroof, and entertainment package. I really wanted the fold down rear seat but they didn't have one in stock and I didn't really order my car with that.
05-02-2006, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
Maybe you are right. But if you google "599 GTB navigation system" you'll see a whole bunch of websites suggesting that the 599 GTB has a GPS navigation system.
I'm quite certain that the 599 doesn't, but it is possible that in the European countries it might have one. 612 might have one as well. But I'm relatively certain that the US 612 version doesn't have the navigation system.
Besides, look at the car closely, and you'll see that it'd be very difficult to enter in navigation details and directions and addresses into the car. There's no keypad.
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05-02-2006, 02:13 AM
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LOL, I agree, it is a terribly fast car. I would be one of the few people stupid enough to buy a 612 Scaglietti. Most people stay away from 4 seater Ferraris since they depreciate so quickly. But that car is just so practical.
Ferraris are arguably more practical than Porsche 911s because they actually have a larger front trunk. The 12 cylinder Ferraris can all carry a set of golf clubs.
Ferraris are arguably more practical than Porsche 911s because they actually have a larger front trunk. The 12 cylinder Ferraris can all carry a set of golf clubs.
05-02-2006, 02:16 AM
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More practical minus the fact you can buy 2 Turbos (or more) for the price of a 612. But yeah they are amazing. My best friend's dad owns a Ferrari/Porsche/Maserati/Audi dealer...
