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Old 12-01-2006, 10:28 PM
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i cant make up my mind..definitely going for a 330ci, but should i get an 01 model to have more mod money, or get one with ZHP?
i dont think i will need the ZHP package since i am planning on doing FI.

also found this crazy s/c for it, running at 14.5 psi it gives you 475hp
too bad it costs $18K
http://www.technikpower.com/site/pro...3D%26filter%3D
14.5 on high compression motor like the BMWs are dangerous and probably unreliable.

I've only seen few cars no e46 including the M3 runs that high of the boost. they'll have to lower their compression ratio to around 1:9 tho. LOTS of work..lol

car wise if you are looking to switch over I would go for the ZHP. if new the E90 328i will be a great buy.
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14.5 on high compression motor like the BMWs are dangerous and probably unreliable.
Agreed. I don't think you want to exceed 9 if that. Of course you're going to have some people brag about running 10+ psi but the question always is: How long before it grenades?
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I agree with you nlpamg, I like Benz's interiors better than BMW's (for the C-Class vs. 3-Series). But when I say that, I mean like a 2007 C230/C350 with Navigation and black trim, not any/all. At the moment my C320 doesn't have NAV, and plus it's the 'older style' interior so I like my BMW's better. But the 2007 C350 I think is hands down better than the E46 & E90's interior.






In terms of sound system - unlike you nlpamg I have the BOSE System for my W203, and the H/K for the BMW and for me the H/K obviously wins. I love pushing that button for extra loudness!

As for your race with the C32, just make sure it's a very windy road. Unless he's done a lot of steering/handling mods, BMW's are naturally better. However, 400HP JEEEEEEEZ, after the corner RUNNNN!!!!

nlpamg - wanna switch cars?


Tee_Tz.
ZHP has carbon fiber interior trim, so it's gonna be much nicer than W203 c class
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ZHP has carbon fiber interior trim, so it's gonna be much nicer than W203 c class
its actually just black-anodized interior aluminum trim
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Agreed. I don't think you want to exceed 9 if that. Of course you're going to have some people brag about running 10+ psi but the question always is: How long before it grenades?
lol, i hate the term grenade
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I love this board, where else can I get info on my new M3 without being called a n00b and to STFF!

Thanks Ling! yeah, I think I will just get the filters...

As for the steering wheel, I like the alcantara, but I also like the blue and red stitching that matches the ///M as well.

I had "carbon fiber" or "CF look" from the factory on my w202, and I have to say that wouldn't want to go back to that and would have Al or wood any day.

I realized a few other things that I have on the e46 that I don't have on the w203 that I kinda like. The pneumatic lumbar support on the M3 is awesome! the thigh support is worthless... however, I think that in terms of overall comfort though, both cars are pretty equal.

I got a new "mod"... a USC antenna ball! I'll be swapping out the antenna on tuesday anyway when the new one arrives.

here's a pic taken today, the car has gotten pretty dirty and will get washed tomorrow (I can't wait for the painted reflectors and silver bulbs!):
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interior !!!

every model comparison BMW has worst interior than MB.

for W203 ;

mine facelifted 05 has great interior design .
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every model comparison BMW has worst interior than MB.

for W203 ;

mine facelifted 05 has great interior design .
that's your personal opinion loh
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CSLs on a w203

edit: ohh i get it now...its a photochop
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Originally Posted by Bing
i removed my M Cross Spoke lightweight alloy wheels 245/35/19's and 275/30/19's summer tires and detailed it for storage and installed stock wheels with all season tires



WTF?? ohhhhh a photoshop... whew ok i was about to say!
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WTF?? ohhhhh a photoshop... whew ok i was about to say!
I was about to say "I'll buy them from you!"
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
I love this board, where else can I get info on my new M3 without being called a n00b and to STFF!

Thanks Ling! yeah, I think I will just get the filters...

As for the steering wheel, I like the alcantara, but I also like the blue and red stitching that matches the ///M as well.

I had "carbon fiber" or "CF look" from the factory on my w202, and I have to say that wouldn't want to go back to that and would have Al or wood any day.

I realized a few other things that I have on the e46 that I don't have on the w203 that I kinda like. The pneumatic lumbar support on the M3 is awesome! the thigh support is worthless... however, I think that in terms of overall comfort though, both cars are pretty equal.

I got a new "mod"... a USC antenna ball! I'll be swapping out the antenna on tuesday anyway when the new one arrives.

here's a pic taken today, the car has gotten pretty dirty and will get washed tomorrow (I can't wait for the painted reflectors and silver bulbs!):
nice! you should look into getting the hardtop, my friend has it and the car looks great with it!
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congrats on the M3 phil.

i dunno about the USC ball mod though....
go UCLA!
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Originally Posted by ctC230K

WTF?? ohhhhh a photoshop... whew ok i was about to say!
what photoshop?

he just put the rims he cleaned next to the car.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
what photoshop?

he just put the rims he cleaned next to the car.
first i thought he mounted bmw wheels on his mercedes but that is impossible since the bolt patterns are not the same but now it looks like a photoshop to me
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Usc.... :x
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Originally Posted by FrankW
what photoshop?

he just put the rims he cleaned next to the car.
lol every1 thinking photoshop
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damn Bing, I didn't know you had an M3 too! I knew about the Cayanne S and C320, but not the M3! Nice! =) I want a Cayanne S too and the CSL wheels!

yeah, terrible f-in loss, played like crap... I took the damn ball off. I still have a USC Alumni plate on the w203 though...

as for the hardtop, I like it, but it's too much $$$. besides, I live in SoCal where it's almost always sunny and I almost always drive with the top down (even when it's cold ).

I got to drive an e90 325i yesterday (I was having the M3 programmed and I'll probably be able to drive another 325i on Monday when they re-detail the M3... ). I'll sum up the review of the 325i like this, I'd rather have my 2005 C230K over the 325i. The 325i's engine although it's supposed to be more powerful than the i4, seemed pretty weak and very low in torque to me. The styling was EH, including the interior. The sound system was pretty good for one without H/K, I'd take the stock sound system of the e90 over the stock sound system of a w203 without H/K or Bose. I have to say though, is that the Steptronic transmission is better than the 5-speed I have and leaps and bounds better than the 7G-tronic. I must say though, the car was smooth, stable, and quiet. It's not bad for a cruiser, but not too much fun to drive.
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Originally Posted by nlpamg
damn Bing, I didn't know you had an M3 too! I knew about the Cayanne S and C320, but not the M3! Nice! =) I want a Cayanne S too and the CSL wheels!

yeah, terrible f-in loss, played like crap... I took the damn ball off. I still have a USC Alumni plate on the w203 though...

as for the hardtop, I like it, but it's too much $$$. besides, I live in SoCal where it's almost always sunny and I almost always drive with the top down (even when it's cold ).

I got to drive an e90 325i yesterday (I was having the M3 programmed and I'll probably be able to drive another 325i on Monday when they re-detail the M3... ). I'll sum up the review of the 325i like this, I'd rather have my 2005 C230K over the 325i. The 325i's engine although it's supposed to be more powerful than the i4, seemed pretty weak and very low in torque to me. The styling was EH, including the interior. The sound system was pretty good for one without H/K, I'd take the stock sound system of the e90 over the stock sound system of a w203 without H/K or Bose. I have to say though, is that the Steptronic transmission is better than the 5-speed I have and leaps and bounds better than the 7G-tronic. I must say though, the car was smooth, stable, and quiet. It's not bad for a cruiser, but not too much fun to drive.
so now that u got the m3 can i have the wheels off your c230?

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