Final verdict on springs? Eibach? H&R? Kleeman? Confusion reigns!
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From: Miami, Florida
2001 C240
I am extremely happy with my H&R Cup Kit... it isn't too low for me at all, i don't scrape anywhere, and i like the look and the ride. The only downside is that the back cambers significantly, so you will waste the rear tires quicker... you just have to rotate them often... unless your wheels are staggered... then, i'd say you'd buy tires twice as often as riding stock. but the key is to rotate often, and always keep them well balanced.
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C230 Sport Coup + 2006 W164 ML350 + 99 Ford Escort RIP
>>... it isn't too low for me at all, i don't scrape anywhere<<
Hmmm....
sounds dicey.....er ricey....er.......uh....never mind ;-)
Hmmm....
sounds dicey.....er ricey....er.......uh....never mind ;-)
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From: Vancouver, WA
2001 C240 / 6-speed
As far as I can tell, the Eibach's are progressive rate springs (i.e., they are softer in the first part of their travel, and progressively get stiffer the more they are compressed).
I don't know about the H&R's. Don't want them, did not research them beyond the amount of spring rate change from stock (too much for what I want).
I don't know about the H&R's. Don't want them, did not research them beyond the amount of spring rate change from stock (too much for what I want).
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Hey xc240x
You got a picture of that beast?
Carbon fiber hood?
Oh and I tried to shove it, but the coils got stuck!
Geez, don't be so touchy!
I think the H&R issue is likely a little different for the sedan vs the coupe.
You got a picture of that beast?
Carbon fiber hood?
Oh and I tried to shove it, but the coils got stuck!
Geez, don't be so touchy!
I think the H&R issue is likely a little different for the sedan vs the coupe.
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From: From Oxnard; living in Ocean View Hills, San Diego, CA
'01 C320 SS
Originally posted by Buellwinkle
We know it's not Eibach or H&R because they don't make progressive springs. Here's some possibilities.
Sprint Springs - http://www.sprintspring.com/
Progress Springs - http://www.progressauto.com/
Suspension Techniques - http://www.belltechcorp.com/
Most likely candidates that already make progressive rate springs for the W203 -
Intrax - http://www.intraxsuspension.com/
Ultimate Springs - http://www.ultimate-suspension.com
We know it's not Eibach or H&R because they don't make progressive springs. Here's some possibilities.
Sprint Springs - http://www.sprintspring.com/
Progress Springs - http://www.progressauto.com/
Suspension Techniques - http://www.belltechcorp.com/
Most likely candidates that already make progressive rate springs for the W203 -
Intrax - http://www.intraxsuspension.com/
Ultimate Springs - http://www.ultimate-suspension.com
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
C230 Coupe
I dont know about the rest of you but Im more confused then ever. Im guessing to get the Eibach because from what Im hearing they do less damage to the shocks. The only thing Im worried about is 1.18" drop even noticeable
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Yeh, the Eibachs do sound like the way to go...
the website say the Pro kit for the couppe isn't yet available.
If I go to the trouble of replacing the springs, I'd think you'd want to put Bilstiens or Koni's in there....aren't they available?
Then again you could save enough money using stock shocks to buy a Pulley
the website say the Pro kit for the couppe isn't yet available.
If I go to the trouble of replacing the springs, I'd think you'd want to put Bilstiens or Koni's in there....aren't they available?
Then again you could save enough money using stock shocks to buy a Pulley
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From: Brisbane, Australia
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carlsson has a coilover setup, my friend in overseas use them in c240, he can adjust the ride height between 30mm t0 80mm, the damper is also adjustable, the price in AUS$ is $3000, well at least that's the price my friend is selling.
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From: Vancouver, WA
2001 C240 / 6-speed
I agree that Eibach is the way to go. The difference in drop between 1.3 and 1.6" is virtually undetectable.
As far as the rake is concerned, you can always adjust the rear drop with the 4 different spring pads (from 8mm to 23mm thick). You have a pair on your car right now, just look under them and count the dots. One dot is thin, 4 is thick. Put in different ones while replacing the springs.
As far as the rake is concerned, you can always adjust the rear drop with the 4 different spring pads (from 8mm to 23mm thick). You have a pair on your car right now, just look under them and count the dots. One dot is thin, 4 is thick. Put in different ones while replacing the springs.
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From: Arizona
C230 K Coupe
So the question is, why do JeffC230's Eibach'ed back tires look lower than Black230Coupe's H&R's?
These are on the last 2 pages of the Picture thread (p22&23)
(I just brought up this post to move the discussion out of that thread)
These are on the last 2 pages of the Picture thread (p22&23)
(I just brought up this post to move the discussion out of that thread)
Last edited by who_dog; Sep 27, 2002 at 01:13 AM.
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From: So. Oregon Coast
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OK Buelly...
I'm ithcin....dyin even....must have.....pulley....and suspension upgrades....
I'm coming down to LA for the AES show in Oct. IN the Benz....stock....wannna leave with it....NOT stock....
I'd like to see yer 'bad low ride'....talk with the Laguna Nigel benz folks, in a place where people would actually know wtf I'm taking about....
send me an email please.......
I'm ithcin....dyin even....must have.....pulley....and suspension upgrades....
I'm coming down to LA for the AES show in Oct. IN the Benz....stock....wannna leave with it....NOT stock....
I'd like to see yer 'bad low ride'....talk with the Laguna Nigel benz folks, in a place where people would actually know wtf I'm taking about....
send me an email please.......
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From: Woodinville, WA
C320 Sport
Just an FYI for those of you who may be undecided about upgrading your suspension...
Yesterday I installed an H&R cup kit on my C320 and what a difference it makes! My car had the "Sport" suspension before the upgrade and it doesn't even compare to the H&R cup kit. This was probably the best investment I have made to date. The ride quality is a little bit stiffer, but in a great way. You can feel the road surface better but it isn't harsh. Cornering and slalom are drastically improved as well as, nose dive under braking reduced. Anyway, I wanted to offer a quick reply concerning my purchase and let others know about my experience. Next purchases Wheels & tires and anti-roll bars...
Yesterday I installed an H&R cup kit on my C320 and what a difference it makes! My car had the "Sport" suspension before the upgrade and it doesn't even compare to the H&R cup kit. This was probably the best investment I have made to date. The ride quality is a little bit stiffer, but in a great way. You can feel the road surface better but it isn't harsh. Cornering and slalom are drastically improved as well as, nose dive under braking reduced. Anyway, I wanted to offer a quick reply concerning my purchase and let others know about my experience. Next purchases Wheels & tires and anti-roll bars...
