w203 Headlights Ebay Warning!!!!
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w203 Headlights Ebay Warning!!!!
Ok so some sellers sell broken ones, and some sell working ones. Look at these clips taken from the listed dealers invovled on ebay; this may have been posted before but i couldn't find anything on it...
LINK TO BROKEN HEADLIGHT LISTING:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-05...72167861QQrdZ1
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It's funny I ordered from the zomkspeed but got the broken one after fedex trashed it
LINK TO BROKEN HEADLIGHT LISTING:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-05...72167861QQrdZ1
![](http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2580/wowqc1.jpg)
It's funny I ordered from the zomkspeed but got the broken one after fedex trashed it
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once again....
don't buy headlights for your Benz on eBay...
it's only been said on this forum about 10,000 times !!!
don't buy headlights for your Benz on eBay...
it's only been said on this forum about 10,000 times !!!
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see i dint read before i ordered mine..i made the mistake of buying projector lights from ebay and im regretting it so badly..spent 425 in total...i got 10000k purple hids put in behind them...the light from the projector goes everywhere but the road....there is no direction of the light...its just everywhere..so i can barely see anything on the road even thought i got bright hids..any suggestions on what i do now..
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see i dint read before i ordered mine..i made the mistake of buying projector lights from ebay and im regretting it so badly..spent 425 in total...i got 10000k purple hids put in behind them...the light from the projector goes everywhere but the road....there is no direction of the light...its just everywhere..so i can barely see anything on the road even thought i got bright hids..any suggestions on what i do now..
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bi-xenons are like 1400 a piece man...or something like that...i already spent about 800 to get the depos working...anything i can do to make the ones i have to work better?
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Mbenznl ??? Not $1400.00 a piece, oh and they work! I'm dealing with an ebay issue on my Suburban, I'm loosing faith in purchasing anything from ebay anymore. Poor quality parts and scammers.
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Is anyone using regular halogen with the projector? Thats what it specifies and maybe thats why you get the light scattered effect with the hid's. HID is light from the whole bulb unit I believe (someone clear this up if you have knowledge), where the halogen is from one point inside the bulb. The projector in science is designed for halogen bulbs with all light from one point ( the filament)
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Is anyone using regular halogen with the projector? Thats what it specifies and maybe thats why you get the light scattered effect with the hid's. HID is light from the whole bulb unit I believe (someone clear this up if you have knowledge), where the halogen is from one point inside the bulb. The projector in science is designed for halogen bulbs with all light from one point ( the filament)
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Okay, so if the projector is designed for a halogen bulb, how do all OEM projectors work with HID (i.e. BI-X or regular Xenon projectors)?
All the projector should do (regardless of what type of bulb you are using - halogen or xenon) is demark a cut-off where light is projected/focused into a concentrated area. That's why, with any projector light (benz or any other manufacturer), you'll notice that the headlights have a distinctive line where the light will not blind oncoming traffic.
If you have a HID kit (xenon light) in a regular headlight assembly (non-projector), there is no distinctive "cut-off" for the light to be focused into one area. That's why a lot of people who get HID kits and put them into their non-projector headlamps have to aim the headlight beam down (so that they won't blind oncoming traffic).
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I bought what were supposed to be the DEPO projectors that look like bix, but ended up getting the other style, the ones that look like the w211 type lights. The Ebay seller is refusing to cooperate so i'm currently working with the CC company. Hopefully everything goes well, if not i'll just have to end up selling the lights.
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if you are getting projectors on ebay make sure it's the one made by DEPO that looks 99% like the real Bi-xenon housing. Not those that looks like the picture you posted up which has that horizontal line.
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"DEPO Performance lamps are designed to enhance the look without compromising its safety and functions. Brightness, reflectivity, visibility are the major safety elements required by law in automotive lighting product engineering. All DEPO performance lights sold in the U.S. and Canada comply with the applicable safety and function requirements of U.S. Department of Transportation's Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108 (FMVSS) and SAE. The era of safe and quality aftermarket automotive lighting has suddenly taken a turn. DEPO has really put FUN back into functionality."
I haven't used these yet, but they do have good propaganda. I've searched further and found on benzworld and other car types people do complain about the focus, because they are engineered in asia, they have crappy engineers and don't focus it right. Maybe so, I don't know. I would say mercedes is better just because mercedes products are better thats why they are more expensive. However, I don't want to drop 1500 on headlights that will get busted out by a rock or a tool at 80 mph on the expessway. 400 for depos can be replaced easily, Its worth a shot. But if i can't see im going to send them back.
"DEPO Performance lamps are designed to enhance the look without compromising its safety and functions. Brightness, reflectivity, visibility are the major safety elements required by law in automotive lighting product engineering. All DEPO performance lights sold in the U.S. and Canada comply with the applicable safety and function requirements of U.S. Department of Transportation's Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108 (FMVSS) and SAE. The era of safe and quality aftermarket automotive lighting has suddenly taken a turn. DEPO has really put FUN back into functionality."
I haven't used these yet, but they do have good propaganda. I've searched further and found on benzworld and other car types people do complain about the focus, because they are engineered in asia, they have crappy engineers and don't focus it right. Maybe so, I don't know. I would say mercedes is better just because mercedes products are better thats why they are more expensive. However, I don't want to drop 1500 on headlights that will get busted out by a rock or a tool at 80 mph on the expessway. 400 for depos can be replaced easily, Its worth a shot. But if i can't see im going to send them back.
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I'm assuming Top is non-projector, bottom is projector?
Either way, in what way does that relate to the type of bulb (i.e. xenon vs. halogen)?
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That's the strangest thing I've ever heard a person be scared of. If a rock were to jump up and crack your headlights, I'd be scared that it would mess up more (i.e. paint, bumper, grille, etc...).
Plus, unless you have liability only insurance (which is a scary thought for a benz owner), at most you'll pay a $1,000 deductable to get a headlight fixed for something like that. And, if depending on your insurance, the mony can potentially be reimbursed.
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1) buy aftermarket HID plug and play kit to put in stock headlamp assembly
or
2) buy OEM bi-x after you've saved up the money to get them
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Stop wasting money on all of the knock-off junk and save for real lights. How much are you out now? You are ready to drop more $$$ on Depo lights??
Patience grasshopper, you really need to save and get OEM.
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Okay, so if the projector is designed for a halogen bulb, how do all OEM projectors work with HID (i.e. BI-X or regular Xenon projectors)?
All the projector should do (regardless of what type of bulb you are using - halogen or xenon) is demark a cut-off where light is projected/focused into a concentrated area. That's why, with any projector light (benz or any other manufacturer), you'll notice that the headlights have a distinctive line where the light will not blind oncoming traffic.
If you have a HID kit (xenon light) in a regular headlight assembly (non-projector), there is no distinctive "cut-off" for the light to be focused into one area. That's why a lot of people who get HID kits and put them into their non-projector headlamps have to aim the headlight beam down (so that they won't blind oncoming traffic).
Okay, so if the projector is designed for a halogen bulb, how do all OEM projectors work with HID (i.e. BI-X or regular Xenon projectors)?
All the projector should do (regardless of what type of bulb you are using - halogen or xenon) is demark a cut-off where light is projected/focused into a concentrated area. That's why, with any projector light (benz or any other manufacturer), you'll notice that the headlights have a distinctive line where the light will not blind oncoming traffic.
If you have a HID kit (xenon light) in a regular headlight assembly (non-projector), there is no distinctive "cut-off" for the light to be focused into one area. That's why a lot of people who get HID kits and put them into their non-projector headlamps have to aim the headlight beam down (so that they won't blind oncoming traffic).
I'm not sure how you've derived your conclusions regarding HID vs halogen
but they're not in line with the science and physics of lighting design.
There are projectors designed and calibrated for halogen bulb focal point,
and another for HID bulb focal point. The projector bowl, in combination with
the projector lens, aids in determining how well the beam is displayed. So no,
a proj based headlight is not designed to fit both halogen and HID bulb. In
addition, there are different types of HID bulbs, each to be used within the
projector or reflective structure for which they're designed. If the lens and
bowl is not optimized for the bulb, then glare results.
One should never place the ubiquitous HID kit (usually a rebased D2S bulb)
into a reflector designed for halogen bulb, nor should the same be done into
a projector designed for halogen. There are HID/Xenon based lights designed
for use in both reflector as well as projector systems.
I'd suggest boning up on one of the many HID FAQ sites eg
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/
http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html
http://www.hidplanet.com
Ebay lights are painted with broad brush in this thread. Quality lights can
be found on Ebay though selecting and identifying them does require insight
and knowledge. I do concede that the majority of the HID lighting on Ebay
preys on the vast majority of buyers who have little experience with HID
lighting and who simply want the HID label associated with the product on
their vehicle...or for want of 'cool blue look' they'll go with an affordable price.
For the most part, the entry into quality HID (meaning, sharp focus, no glare,
proper cutoff) seems to start out at $700-ish. Generally speaking, anything
in the $200-500 range is almost always trash.
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