if so, then all i need is bulbs... if not then what would be a good HID conversion kit?? thanks

 

no, they are the stock OEM halogen housings for the newer W203 sedan

 

thanks very much!!!

kno of any good HID kits? i found this one but not sure if there any good

http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...PROD&ProdID=14

 

talk to derwin at carlabs:

http://www.carlabms.com/contact.html

i have a set from them and it works great... there are a good number of other members on this forum who've gotten hid's from them and are happy as well. i think its much less than the link you posted as well.

 

+10 and is spelled Darwin

 

wrong. the picture is of a halogen reflector headlight. the worst thing you can
do is to install an HID kit designed [sic] for a projector based headlight. even
so, they HID kits are practically never calibrated for the projector.

 

most of these kits use re-based D2R bulbs, which are designed for reflective housings. Although a HID conversions aren't perfect, some turn out ok without too many hot spots.

 

okay, will defer to your experience. most of what I've seen are D2Ses. just
be careful when purchasing and ask lots of questions

 

whats the difference from D2S/D2R? it says i would need the H7 bulbs. sorry for the stupid questions, im really a noob at this...

would this mod void warranty?? should i check with the dealer if they would change the xenon setting?

thanks midnight kompre for the link, ill msg or call him monday

 

i talked to my dealer once about modding my car during the warranty period, she said that is ok to modd and your warranty will void base on what you modded, like if i change my deck CD player to some aftermarket one, then my CD Deck warranty will be void.

but this time you just getting HID is simple as changing a light bulb i don't think it would do anything to your warranty.

this link goes to my complete project done by Darwin
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=176767

https://mbworld.org/forums/classifieds/175451-carlab-motorsports-v3-hid-system.html

here is the complete kit

 

DAMN!!! $280 for HID plus you don't have to change it to xenon present!!! thats a hook-up and a half haha, hope he ship to Canada...

those are crazy nice lights brabus, thanks alot for all the help bro

 

280bux worth everything, if u live next to his garage he can install for u for free too, and yes he ship things everywhere....

my friend recently installed HID on his 99' HOnda Accord, bright as hell

 

yeah np! and i miss-spelled his name, *Darwin*

 

D2S bulbs are for projector based housings. D2R bulbs are for reflector type lenses. D2R bulbs have parts of the bulb covered in a black coating.

raymond g - I don't know about all the kits out there but the one kit i've seen was a re-based D2R bulb like it should be for refective housings.

 

thank you!!! learn something new everyday

 

Folks, Raymond is right.

There are many kits, none of them have even come close to meeting the specifications of FMVSS 108. The reflector in Halogen housings is not correct for HID. Even with new bases on the lamps, the light source is not in the right position.

Save your coin to get the proper housings and lamps. MBenzNL.com is a trusted source for the Bi-Xenon lamps for a ton less than the dealer.

The kits that replace the halogen lamps are like putting lipstick on a pig. It does not look good, and the pig doesn't like it.

There are some questions you need to ask any one that sells kits to convert to HID lamps:

Is the conversion beam pattern correct?
How is the conversion made to be beam pattern correct?
How is the conversion tested to ensure beam pattern correctness?
If it is not beam pattern correct, can they tell you how to fix it?
Do they know what a correct beam pattern looks like?
Are they aware that non-beam pattern correct conversions have serious disadvantages? A person could get hurt!

I can't see how a bulb designed for a projector housing can be installed in a reflector housing and get a proper beam. Since the lamps must have their base changed, it might be possible. Mid 90's Mercedes actually had such a lamp, but it has fallen from favor. One big problem with putting a HID lamp in a reflector is the insulation of the return wire. Most reflectors are metalized, and will arc to the return wire.

The color temperature of the lamp is either 4300K or 6000K. Only 4300K is used in OEM headlights. How would you measure it? Knowing that most people can't, sellers lie. The way they make it blue is to put a filter on the external glass. This raises the color temperatue, but decreases the light output significantly.

My experience is that Osram (Sylvania) or Philips HID bulbs get more blue as they age, and they last about 2,000 hours. Asian lamps (unknown manufacturer) seem to remain rather constant in color, but expire at about 600 hours.

Conversion to Bi-Xenon is possible, but you must change the housings. MbenzNL.com has more infomation on factory parts. These lamps will probably not be available much longer because of the production of the new C class body style (W204), so you should move quickly if you really want them.

Changing the housings is not the full job. You do need the computer to be version coded for xenon lamps. This is because halogen lamps draw 55W and most HID lamps draw 35W. The car can tell the difference.

In most aftermarket installations you don't get the automatic leveling sensors and sensor wiring harness, nor the heated headlamp washers. Both of these require a lot of very expensive additional parts. Many folks don't think these items are really necessary, but be aware that Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108 requires the leveler and washer. It is your choice.

 

i thought about the bi-xenon for awhile but the more and more i look at it, the more it looks like a Hyundai Sonata hahaha,, i don't think the projector style looks that good on the c-class. this car is a lease so i don't plan on ne mod thats too much, my dealer probably wants 1500 each light, thats retarded!!!