hi guys... i need some help here.... i just got pulled over by cop today...

i live in california.. my car is c230 and i put eisenmann race as my exhaust... and the cop stop me and gimme a notice to change back to stock...

it says:
violation code: 27151 cvc
violation description: modified exhaust

does eisenmann not a legal exhaust??

 

eisenmann is not a street legal exhaust...
just throw the stock one back on and switch the eisenmann back when you get it inspected
you have it clamped on there, right?

 

wow
that sucks
wonder which exhaust are street legal

 

Fight it!

27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system so modified.

(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

27150.(a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all
times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and
properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no
muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or
similar device.
(b) Except as provided in Division 16.5 (commencing with Section
38000) with respect to off-highway motor vehicles subject to
identification, every passenger vehicle operated off the highways shall
at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation
and properly maintained so as to meet the requirements of Article 2.5
(commencing with Section 27200), and no muffler or exhaust system shall
be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.
(c) The provisions of subdivision (b) shall not be applicable to
passenger vehicles being operated off the highways in an organized
racing or competitive event conducted under the auspices of a
recognized sanctioning body or by permit issued by the local
governmental authority having jurisdiction.
(Amended by Stats. 1977, Ch. 558.)

 

 

This is why I don't do the exhaust modification anymore. I got tired of geting pulled. I got pulled over a lot when I had my japanese cars. Cops don't even care when I told them that I have Greedy exhaust and it's street legal.

 

this is really annoying. the eisenmann is not street legal, almost nothing in CA is...

don't cops have anything better to do?

I hate the fact that those big *** Harley's are waaaaaaay louder than any exhaust you can get for a Ferrari, but they're legal just b/c it's a bike. No tickets, but a lot of "excessive and unusual" noise... stupid standard if you ask me.

the eisenmann is loud, but I'd get it checked to see if it's over 95db. if it's not, then I'd fight the *******.

makes you rethink having a non-stock exhaust now... oh well, I'm already in that direction on the M AND I'm getting a bypass valve (sort of) as well (when it's released in April).

 

ahh ***** i guess i will stick with remus now...

 

agreed!!! if you look on eisenmann's website, they show the series [sport or race] and show what the db level is. I believe race is 83-87db. so you fit in. here is an exert from their site...


Performance Level Average %HP Gain Average Flow Restriction
(Stock: 43%) Average Sound Level
(Scale: 10 = loudest, stock average = 2) Average Weight Reduction %

Sport 4.1 - 4.7 % 26.1 - 28.8 % 3.3 - 4.7 28 - 37%
Racing 6.1 - 6.4 % 20.2 - 25.5 % 5.1 - 8.9 35 - 70%





Performance Level 30-40 MPH 40-50 MPH 50-60 MPH 60-70 MPH 70-100 MPH

Stock 73 71 77 75 78
Sport 79 76 82 80 81
Racing 85 81 88 84 86





for more/same info:
http://www.eisenhaus.com/perfdetails.html
http://www.eisenhaus.com/sounddetails.html

 

Surprisingly enough, a lot of cops don't know the actual regulations. If it passes smog and the decibals are lower than the maximum, you should be able to fight it.

I got out of a ticket a few years back. My cousin took it in and rev'd the exhaust for the CHP officer and they didn't feel that my exhaust even warranted a ticket because it wasn't that loud.

That's why I'm happy with my Kleemann as it is. It's not excrutiatingly loud. It growls at acceleration, but no more than any other G35 / 350 Z w/ stock exhaust (and it's deeper sounding than those exhausts).

 

A lot of judges aren't familiar with the actual regulations and simply don't care either. You can try fighting it, but you won't win just because you're right.

 

I agree with you. Also ford mustang with loud straight pipe will less likely to get ticket than japanese car with Apexi exhaust.

 

I love how my hard earned tax dollars are going to keeping the streets safe from aggressive exhaust notes. Its really a gateway to worse offenses like modified ground clearance,missing front plate, and tinted front windows.

 

why don't the cop help E kill his neighbor for being too loud??

 

Written law doesn't make a difference anymore?

 

hahaha I agree with that.

Hey E, (since we are on the subject) I just had a brilliant idea...
How about we do a little meet over by your place...and what you will have set up are a bunch of tubes running into his windows or something of the sort...when we get to your place...you attach some of the tubes to are exhaust...and we all just revv...say about 20 cars hooked up to 20 tubes running into the guy's house haha...i was bored in class and i tend to daydream alot...thought about this after i read your neighbor posting.

 

Harleys with loud exhausts are just as illegal as any other vehicle.

 

no they're not:

(emphasis added.)

 

Ok, so emphasize the part that pertains to motorcycles.
Besides, there are general noise laws also.

 

perhaps, but I highly doubt that those laws are being enforced on them, not even equally to cars, but at all.

 

Agreed!

 

I'm not in CA, but I agree, if you can somehow test the sound and make sure...cuz if it is not over 95db then you have a legitimate stand...and no matter what the judge will allow it. Although I don't know what this kind of exhaust sounds like, wish I did, but I'm just stating the facts....

 

No, it doesn't, until you reach the appellant level.

If you did not need to build a foundation for appeal, you could skip the Superior Court altogether. There is little regard for Constitution or Statue there.

 

there's little regard for the Constitution and statutes with CHP officers. I love how uneducated power-tripping pencil-pushers with little understanding of the law are given the most amount of discretion in our system. (yeah, I really hold them in high regard b/c they're so damn brave.)

as for going to up through appeals, I wouldn't mind taking an unjustly and unlawfully given traffic infraction all the way up to the Supreme Court. we have a justice system, why not use it to the full extent possible? I'm not advocating civil disobedience, but when you can effectively go pro hac vice for a good amount of time, why not fight?

 

so, kleemann and remus are street legal in CA??