j_belll

no lol. trust me, i never see any! there's only a couple i see like more than once but nothing new.

Outland

Supercharged engines have a LOT of torque down low, more than your inline six in the BMW. All forced induction motors behave this way. Ironically, the real behavior of the kompressor motors is exactly the opposite of what you wrote. They pull strong out of the hole. Winding them high isn't rewarding because the din of the engine starts to compete with the turbine whine of the supercharger- and the power falls off really quick past 6200RPM.

A stock C230 would run better than 7.1(MT-COTY) to sixty if 1)the car wasn't so damn heavy(3310LBS), and MB had picked the gear ratios better. You run strong up to 53mph, and then you have to shift into third. 2 gears to 60 would knock another half second off that time or more. The gearing in the C230 is a hand me down from the C240, which needs the lower gearing just to gets its fat lazy *** off the line. And I'm not being mean saying this, but the only car Ive ever driven that's more lackluster off the line was a Chevette. The V6 versions of the C230 with an auto are just as dismal off the line- but that engine does make some decent power up top.

BTW, I've never seen a review of the 323 that had it running faster than 7.3 to sixty, so I'd say a stock C230 and your 323 are pretty evenly matched. Your down a few ponies, but a helluva lot lighter.

drexappeal

Wow, I think you've gotta look into the forums a little more?

Search for the following usernames:
All these users are in Los Angeles/Orange County. I'm in Hollywood 5 days a week and West LA or the San Fernando Valley on the weekends. We've had several photoshoots across all of L.A. (Pasadena, Santa Monica, Orange County, Rosmead, etc, etc, etc...).

Believe me, there are A LOT! If you search all of those names alone, you'll find a bunch of threads/pics.

j_belll

yea i know all of them are in our area. i just don't see them or anyone else not on the forum and by naming a few usernames doesn't mean theres a lot of modded C's in the L.A. area lol. i just dont think there is, i see more modded CLS' and S550s in the LA area.

nlpamg

wtf has happened to this thread? I'm gone two days and it's still going on...

so LStard rear ended an M5 huh?

I'd disagree with a C240 keeping up with an A4 2.0, no way in hell. the C240 is down what in that matchup, 50 hp?

and I see modded everything in damn LA! I also see tons of modded C-Classes that aren't even on mbworld!

j_belll

yea i see modded everything in LA as well. but who cares now, who cares who sees more modded C classes lol.

gokcer

MotorWeek got 6.5 secs to 60. Assuming the clutch is in good shape it could be done. I can do 7.0 secs consistantly all day long. When I really push the car, I have done 6.9 with my tired out clutch which slips with anything above 2500rpm. That is one reason I replaced 3 rubber flexdiscs so far. Those things dont last once you start running autox events and doing hard launches.

here is the article
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1907a.shtml

tee_tz

The only BMW that a C240 can be is the 318. Look, the C240 is a good looking car, very luxurious with all the personal touches that Mercedes-Benz is known for, but it's not a sport car. The sport car is the C230; and even the C230 itself are not faster than the BMW counterparts (325/328).

I've said this time and time again. The difference between Mercedes-Benz and BMW is that, BMW build the car thinking performance and then factors in luxury; Mercedes builds luxury with performance.

Now - remember - AMG is a different story, as is M is a different story. But generally, this is the philosophy between the 2 brands.

Enjoy your C240, but if you want a FAST car go buy an EVO/WRX, those achieve 0-60MPH faster than C55's and M3's. Your C240 cannot beat the new Nissan Altima; but it's a better car.


Tee_Tz.

drexappeal

I beg to differ. Mine is.

PC Valkyrie

Oh man, this reminds me of the past when the C240 gets ridiculed by almost everyone else on the C-class forum, including many C230K owners.

Those of you around in 2005 may remember this thread where there was a video showing a stock C240 with 5 speed auto pulling away multiple times from a stock C230K (with the 1.8L supercharged I4) with 5 speed auto when doing highway runs up to 110-130mph.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/109077-c240-vs-c230k-video-released.html

Unfortunately, the video is not available anymore, but reading through that thread gives you an idea what happened. I laugh when C230 owners think they have a "sports car" when a C240 could outrun a C230 sedan on highway runs. Sure, many cars can smoke a C240 from a standstill, but the C240 can definitely hold its own against some cars at highway speeds when the motor is spinning in its sweet spot (above 4000rpm).

And yes, I'm an ex-C240 owner.

anonymouse

Classic maximas. I had a gold 1995 model, 3 pedals of course. I loved that car. My boy still has his 96 max (5 speed) and he gets me everytime. Once we hit 2nd gear he is gone. We won't even talk about the 2007 max.

outaurleague

Lsrevhard

Wow wish i could still see that video

Im not saying it true or not i just wanted to here peoples personal experince...

tee_tz

Sorry, I meant stock versus stock.... Yours is NOT stock!

I'd put you on 330 levels...


Tee_Tz.

drexappeal

Hahaha...I know, bro. I was just messin'. Wow, 330 levels, well...come to think of it a 330 tried to run me before my car started acting up. Let's just say, I wonder if the driver enjoyed the rear view of my car.

sim_benz

+1

Unpopular

stock 323 running 6.9s?? I really dont think so.. my charged e36 325(175kw at the wheels) averages 6.5s! even before charging it was way faster than a friends 323sedan.
wrt to a kompressor/supercharger.. its the opposite of a turbo. you dont have to keep the revs high, power starts from low down.

same friends 323 and my C240 are both rated at 125kw but the MB is too heavy and the gearing is too long. its no contest. I cannot race anything with my C240 from a standing start. period.. well maybe entry level 1300 or 1400cc hatches.

gaiex

Someone has proposed me a race, guess who!?

Maybe the first over seas MBWorld race and meeting

Ohhh and a first CDI vs US C240 duel

Lsrevhard

haha yup im from there and am planing on taking it there this summer to open it up on the higways

tee_tz

Planning on taking it to Portugal for summer?


Tee_Tz.

Lsrevhard

ya shipping it from baltimore wouldnt be the first time that were im from

gaiex

Highways in Portugal are not like in US ones, too much trafic and only two lanes and many turns... and its ilegal passing trough the rigth don't forget that

Many speed operations beeing done by the cops, hidden radars mounted by the road, and a huge police force to cut off the highway to put an hand on speeders!!! or some prodrive equiped subarus (+350Hp), BMW 330D (yes a diesel one with +-250Hp, stock 204hp), audi A4 1.8T (+240Hp) and now some new skodas octavias RS diesel and petrol (+-200hp and 240Hp) not to talk about the old 1.6L nissans with 180Hp all disguised as civilian cars and watching us... try to race to this ones

I have a friend that was caugth by a radar last year with a CL220CDI at 212km/h by a mentioned audi A4 above, this year with his BMW 335D coupe was caugth again at 212km/h and he swears that he was doing 260km/h and talking on hands free phone, thats why he didn't saw the radar imediate fine of 500€
Now we know that mobile radars here only can see us till 212km/h

Ohhh well, I have mines too, now I'm driving like an old man, a fast one

gaiex

Ohhhhh, you are going to be owned by many small cars, and many of them diesel, like the Seats, Vw and Audi TDIs, 1.9TDI with 130Hp and 170Hp, no weigth and a loooooottt of torque and not to speak on the BMW 320D / 120D with 163Hp, no petrol cars here, only super sports ones like porsches, ferraris, etc... you will see a lot of BMW 530D/ 535D and MB E and C270CDI/E320CDI/CLS320CDI principally on the Highways...

Diesels, because petrol here costs +-4,5€ each US gallon (1,2€/L)

Vasir

I raced an old lady in a walker with my s320 and won. so if my boat can do that im sure a c240 would be okay..then again i dont think she was really racing me, so it kinda makes me sad.

anonymouse

Puff puff give...puff puff give...you're f%%king up the rotation. Puff puff give!!!!

A 240 isn't smoking anything at any speed! 230s (well at the the v6 models) kinda bog in 2nd gear no matter what you do but anything over about 45 it does quite nicely. And when you are over 70 it pretty much hauls ***. Well at least the 6 speed m/t models do.