C Class now = Chrysler!!
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Actually that radio and a/c controls are from the SLK and not the c-class. The SLK, a car in it's last year of production in the current body style. They are getting the old stuff and the new SLK will get all new stuff, fair trade from my perspective.
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You're obviously not keeping up with the class. The Crossfire is mostly Mercedes mechanical. The drive line and most electrical. It is much more than a head unit. This is the first joint venture between Mercedes and Chrysler.
You're obviously not keeping up with the class. The Crossfire is mostly Mercedes mechanical. The drive line and most electrical. It is much more than a head unit. This is the first joint venture between Mercedes and Chrysler.
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Originally posted by grn300m
C230Ken
You're obviously not keeping up with the class. The Crossfire is mostly Mercedes mechanical. The drive line and most electrical. It is much more than a head unit. This is the first joint venture between Mercedes and Chrysler.
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You're obviously not keeping up with the class. The Crossfire is mostly Mercedes mechanical. The drive line and most electrical. It is much more than a head unit. This is the first joint venture between Mercedes and Chrysler.
Unlike Jaguar, which is putting ford parts inside it, the crossfire has mercedes parts in it.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Actually that radio and a/c controls are from the SLK and not the c-class. The SLK, a car in it's last year of production in the current body style. They are getting the old stuff and the new SLK will get all new stuff, fair trade from my perspective.
Actually that radio and a/c controls are from the SLK and not the c-class. The SLK, a car in it's last year of production in the current body style. They are getting the old stuff and the new SLK will get all new stuff, fair trade from my perspective.
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But for many, now it will become an issue about getting a "Mercedes" without paying the price. Despite the name, like you said it is mostly Mercedes. Besides, where is the brand loyalty? For me thats exactly why I didn't even bother looking at Jaguar or Lexus. It seemed that BMW and Mercedes were the only car manufacturers (luxury, yet in my price range, even at the low end) that had loyalty to their name; but, with this, Mercedes has just lost that. And, the Mini does not count, I doubt there is a single part on the Mini belonging originally to a BMW. Wow, I never thought I'd say anything good about BMW, but there it is.
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Re: C Class now = Chrysler!!
Originally posted by C230Ken
Guess we can't laugh at Jaguar using Ford parts in their new cars. Check out the dash and especially the radio in the new Chrysler Crossfire.
Guess we can't laugh at Jaguar using Ford parts in their new cars. Check out the dash and especially the radio in the new Chrysler Crossfire.
The Chrysler(another bread and butter brand) is using MB bits, and MB is a premuim brand(if not THE premium brand), so using the MB bits in the chrysler does nothing to dilute the MB brand, while at the same time it elevates the status of the Chrysler.
BTW, that's not the same H/U from the c230.
I doubt there is a single part on the Mini belonging originally to a BMW. Wow, I never thought I'd say anything good about BMW, but there it is.
I think you guys are looking at this the wrong way...if Chrysler bits and bobules begin showing on a MB, then its time to worry.
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Re: Re: C Class now = Chrysler!!
Originally posted by Outland
BTW, that's not the same H/U from the c230.
BTW, that's not the same H/U from the c230.
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I think you can safely say that MB is still staying pure to its roots. Jaguar X-type is actually a European model Ford Mondeo - add all wheel drive and some jaguar parts and you get a Jaguar...but in my opinion it is still a Ford vehicle. The Crossfire may use MB parts, but it is still a Chrysler...they are not trying to disguise it as a MB vehicle. You can find BMW parts in other brands also...I think they are using BMW parts in the new Range Rover. So, it is becoming a more global market...good or bad....economics play a bigger role than being pure to the brand.
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Re: Re: Re: C Class now = Chrysler!!
Originally posted by Mercedes
Yes it is. You should go and take a look at youre car. The only thing thats diffrent about the one in the picture, is that its painted aluminum
Yes it is. You should go and take a look at youre car. The only thing thats diffrent about the one in the picture, is that its painted aluminum
This pic is from SESSION's wonderfully illustrated Audio 10 install...my head unit is identical.
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You should check your own car, first. I looked, its not the same unit...similar, but not the same unit painted aluminum as you claim.
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It's not the same radio, it's the one from the SLK. It shares many components with the SLK. When you combine two negatives like poor reliabilty of Mercedes with poor build quality of Chrysler do you add the two negatives or is the poor reliability squared? This is not the first time that Chrysler would have failed by making a car off shore with snazzy nameplate and shared components, remember the Chrysler TC by Maserati? People go into a Chrysler/Plymouth dealers for minivans and economy cars, not for exotics unless they are built in such small numbers like the Prowler that they aren't really for sale at the dealers.
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Originally posted by RJamesC240
But for many, now it will become an issue about getting a "Mercedes" without paying the price.
But for many, now it will become an issue about getting a "Mercedes" without paying the price.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
It's not the same radio, it's the one from the SLK. It shares many components with the SLK. When you combine two negatives like poor reliabilty of Mercedes with poor build quality of Chrysler do you add the two negatives or is the poor reliability squared? This is not the first time that Chrysler would have failed by making a car off shore with snazzy nameplate and shared components, remember the Chrysler TC by Maserati? People go into a Chrysler/Plymouth dealers for minivans and economy cars, not for exotics unless they are built in such small numbers like the Prowler that they aren't really for sale at the dealers.
It's not the same radio, it's the one from the SLK. It shares many components with the SLK. When you combine two negatives like poor reliabilty of Mercedes with poor build quality of Chrysler do you add the two negatives or is the poor reliability squared? This is not the first time that Chrysler would have failed by making a car off shore with snazzy nameplate and shared components, remember the Chrysler TC by Maserati? People go into a Chrysler/Plymouth dealers for minivans and economy cars, not for exotics unless they are built in such small numbers like the Prowler that they aren't really for sale at the dealers.
MB's are not unreliable cars...just because they don't score #1 on the JD power surveys, doesn't mean they are unreliable. Sure, youve had some problems...but youre one guy. Most unreliable car Ive ever owned? Honda Accord...it had problems that make yours look like petty complaints. Every car company has problems.
Maserati, snazzy nameplate? Exotic, but hardly a name I'd associate with quality and reliability. The Crossfire is pretty damn cool looking, Chrysler has got a winner there. The German engineering isn't doing them no harm, either. Chrysler has some neat stuff coming out. New Viper, Crossfire, and the cheap but fast SRT4...cheap, but one fast machine.
And as far as Jags go, they ARE not very reliable cars...my neighbor's kid works at the local jag dealer, nearly every vehicle they sell comes back several times according to him.
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Originally posted by Outland
Ahhh...good 'ol Buellwinkle optimism.
And as far as Jags go, they ARE not very reliable cars...my neighbor's kid works at the local jag dealer, nearly every vehicle they sell comes back several times according to him.
Ahhh...good 'ol Buellwinkle optimism.
And as far as Jags go, they ARE not very reliable cars...my neighbor's kid works at the local jag dealer, nearly every vehicle they sell comes back several times according to him.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
It's not the same radio, it's the one from the SLK. It shares many components with the SLK. When you combine two negatives like poor reliabilty of Mercedes with poor build quality of Chrysler do you add the two negatives or is the poor reliability squared? This is not the first time that Chrysler would have failed by making a car off shore with snazzy nameplate and shared components, remember the Chrysler TC by Maserati? People go into a Chrysler/Plymouth dealers for minivans and economy cars, not for exotics unless they are built in such small numbers like the Prowler that they aren't really for sale at the dealers.
It's not the same radio, it's the one from the SLK. It shares many components with the SLK. When you combine two negatives like poor reliabilty of Mercedes with poor build quality of Chrysler do you add the two negatives or is the poor reliability squared? This is not the first time that Chrysler would have failed by making a car off shore with snazzy nameplate and shared components, remember the Chrysler TC by Maserati? People go into a Chrysler/Plymouth dealers for minivans and economy cars, not for exotics unless they are built in such small numbers like the Prowler that they aren't really for sale at the dealers.
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Originally posted by viper
Nearly every Jag comes back several times eh ? I guess that dealership can't fix anything right the first time.
Nearly every Jag comes back several times eh ? I guess that dealership can't fix anything right the first time.
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On an interesting side note, I wonder what is going to happen when these cars need service? I mean, from the sound of it this car will have an all fiber-optic system just like the MB SLK, why would they modify their radio/HVAC/electrical system instead of just inserting the standard MB one. Also, if most of the mechanicals are from MB, who is going to service this thing? I mean, there are only what, 300 MB dealers in the US? There is going to be some significant investment into every Chrysler dealer to get the equipment to be able to service these things are handle MB diagnostics...that's quite a bit to ask of every dealer. To me that would point to the fact that this is just the first of many Chrysler vehicles to become MBified...I mean, otherwise all the dealers would scream at all the training of personnel to handle this car and the cost of dealership upgrades to service them.
All in all I think it's a good thing...it will ultimately drive down the cost of parts for MB...I mean, economies of scale and all. Who knows, maybe we will get some of the lower MB cars that aren't sold in the US, just have them rebadged as Chrysler. Oh well...just $0.02 from me.
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All in all I think it's a good thing...it will ultimately drive down the cost of parts for MB...I mean, economies of scale and all. Who knows, maybe we will get some of the lower MB cars that aren't sold in the US, just have them rebadged as Chrysler. Oh well...just $0.02 from me.
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all the dealers would scream at all the training of personnel to handle this car
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Re: Re: Re: C Class now = Chrysler!!
Originally posted by Mercedes
Yes it is. You should go and take a look at youre car. The only thing thats diffrent about the one in the picture, is that its painted aluminum
Yes it is. You should go and take a look at youre car. The only thing thats diffrent about the one in the picture, is that its painted aluminum
They are also using the same Flasher button as the MB's.
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All in all I think it's a good thing...it will ultimately drive down the cost of parts for MB...I mean, economies of scale and all
