Tires wearing on outside after alignment?
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Thank you so much for looking into this XenonBenz. 
You are the man. 
I was just about to call another dealer and ask them about this just to see what they would say.
I guess I'll just have the bushings replaced under warranty and hope they align it correctly.
At least I know that I don't have to buy those bolts every time. But it still burns me that they charged me $120 for them when you state that they are only $25 each.
Wait a minute, how many of them are there anyway?
You are the man. I was just about to call another dealer and ask them about this just to see what they would say.
I guess I'll just have the bushings replaced under warranty and hope they align it correctly.
At least I know that I don't have to buy those bolts every time. But it still burns me that they charged me $120 for them when you state that they are only $25 each.
Wait a minute, how many of them are there anyway?
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Thank you so much for looking into this XenonBenz. You are the man.
I was just about to call another dealer and ask them about this just to see what they would say.
I guess I'll just have the bushings replaced under warranty and hope they align it correctly.
At least I know that I don't have to buy those bolts every time. But it still burns me that they charged me $120 for them when you state that they are only $25 each.
Wait a minute, how many of them are there anyway?
You are the man. I was just about to call another dealer and ask them about this just to see what they would say.
I guess I'll just have the bushings replaced under warranty and hope they align it correctly.
At least I know that I don't have to buy those bolts every time. But it still burns me that they charged me $120 for them when you state that they are only $25 each.
Wait a minute, how many of them are there anyway?
But, what serves that you are getting wear on the inside and outside of the tire edges. At least that is how I read your posts. What I didn't know, was that as I read your post, you have the same tires that now have approx 23k miles on them. I'd be really pleased with that kind of mileage.
Castor, I'm a bit dubtious of this, as you would see a different kind of wear pattern. You are saying the wear is to the outside edges. There is no odd wearing like cupping, or feathering in the tire?
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There are only two of the bolts. Putting the washer in on the strut is what puts in the negative camber. So, to some degree, we are both right.
But, what serves that you are getting wear on the inside and outside of the tire edges. At least that is how I read your posts. What I didn't know, was that as I read your post, you have the same tires that now have approx 23k miles on them. I'd be really pleased with that kind of mileage.
Castor, I'm a bit dubtious of this, as you would see a different kind of wear pattern. You are saying the wear is to the outside edges. There is no odd wearing like cupping, or feathering in the tire?
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But, what serves that you are getting wear on the inside and outside of the tire edges. At least that is how I read your posts. What I didn't know, was that as I read your post, you have the same tires that now have approx 23k miles on them. I'd be really pleased with that kind of mileage.
Castor, I'm a bit dubtious of this, as you would see a different kind of wear pattern. You are saying the wear is to the outside edges. There is no odd wearing like cupping, or feathering in the tire?
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They only seem to be wearing more on the outside edge. No other problems, cupping....feathering... nothing.
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Well I got the car back from the dealer. Didn't get a chance to talk to the service manager so I will call on the 5th. They replaced the sway bar bushings and checked the alignment again.
Here's a couple of pictures of what I am talking about.
What do you think?
Here's a couple of pictures of what I am talking about.
What do you think?
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Well I got the car back from the dealer. Didn't get a chance to talk to the service manager so I will call on the 5th. They replaced the sway bar bushings and checked the alignment again.
Here's a couple of pictures of what I am talking about.
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What do you think?
Here's a couple of pictures of what I am talking about.
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What do you think?
Last edited by johnand; Jul 4, 2007 at 11:00 AM.
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Is the wear linear from the outside to the inside? Meaning the whole tire is worn in an angle from the outside to in, or is it strickly just the very outside tread blocks, then the rest of the tire is evenly worn? But, that appears from the pics as wear from having too much positive camber.
I wish I had some good before pictures before I had it aligned. The outside of the tire looked the same as the inside, normal for the mileage.
The alignment had to be off when they first did it. Thats the only thing I can think of.
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That has nothing to do with alignment. The camber bolts are underneath attached to one of the arms. Flip has experience replacing them and has even posted pictures before (I think ), so hopefully he can chime in.
EDIT: Found the thread. Hope this helps. https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...t=camber+bolts
), so hopefully he can chime in.EDIT: Found the thread. Hope this helps. https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...t=camber+bolts
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Originally Posted by Blake P
Haha...damn, I didn't even notice that. Alignment problems my foot!
I've checked them once a month since I bought it so it's not from that.
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I have a c230k which has staggered wheels/tires. The first set OEM michelin pilot was gone at around 20k miles with wores wear in the front than that in the rear. Now, with 37k miles on the car, my yoko es100 has the same problem. The left front one wears to wear mark while all others are good. I had the alignment done like almost 15k miles ago, but at that time, it only shows the right rear wheel is off spec.
Now, I need new tires..but do I need another alignment?
Now, I need new tires..but do I need another alignment?
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I have a c230k which has staggered wheels/tires. The first set OEM michelin pilot was gone at around 20k miles with wores wear in the front than that in the rear. Now, with 37k miles on the car, my yoko es100 has the same problem. The left front one wears to wear mark while all others are good. I had the alignment done like almost 15k miles ago, but at that time, it only shows the right rear wheel is off spec.
Now, I need new tires..but do I need another alignment?
Now, I need new tires..but do I need another alignment?
for searchingsecond, your tire life seems pretty normal for those tires. I've had both of them.
for our car because of the caster angle if you are thinking that you want 0 camber for the front so that the tire wear will be even...DON'T mig888 can tell you that since he's running zero camber on the front yet still have wear problem on the outside. In reality the solution for tire wear on the outside shoulder is having negative camber on the fronts.
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Thanks for the reply..
Frank, actaully we were talking about tires a while back when I need new tires. time flies...:P
The only thing I don't understand is that why it's only the driver's side front tire has the problem, excess wears on outside, while the passenger side one is ok? Does that mean the cambers on the two front tires are different?
I should be able to find out the printouts from last alignment later..
guess I should have bought the tire warranties when I get the car....now, with another set of new tires, there goes the federal refund money..
Jason
Frank, actaully we were talking about tires a while back when I need new tires. time flies...:P
The only thing I don't understand is that why it's only the driver's side front tire has the problem, excess wears on outside, while the passenger side one is ok? Does that mean the cambers on the two front tires are different?
I should be able to find out the printouts from last alignment later..
guess I should have bought the tire warranties when I get the car....now, with another set of new tires, there goes the federal refund money..
Jason
