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Old 10-16-2002, 01:07 PM
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had a run in with a matrix this morning

it was the XRS model. I beat it. I think they have around the same hp as we do but no torque at all. Just thought I would share.
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dont compare coupe with a matrix...i drove one a few months back...it sucks....
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Re: had a run in with a matrix this morning

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had a run in with a matrix this morning
Did you take the red pill?



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lol, the martix was red though.
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for half the price of the C230, its not supposed to beat it, look better than it or compete in anyway with it.

personally I think they look pretty cool...as long as it has the manual tranny
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for half the price of the C230, its not supposed to beat it, look better than it or compete in anyway with it.
You said it, thanks!

Personally, I don't like the mini-minivan look of the Matrix, Civic SI, et al. On the other hand, I like the look of the VW GTI better than my C230K. I can't explain that....
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I will agree with you bagwell, it is a nice looking car. I wonder how long before a turbo is offered in it. Turbo + AWD = fun
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On the other hand, I like the look of the VW GTI better than my C230K. I can't explain that....
now you're just talking cuckoo... that's crazy talk, man!

i liked the matrix when it first came out. now, i'm not so hot on it. i'm on the honda element phase. (the mini is still on the list also).
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of course! if i got smoked by a matrix then im gonna be ditching my car!
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the honda element looks like a toy car. the name is WAY too funny.
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rear is ugly tho.

i think they should have put the rear from the Pontiac Vibe (same car)on the Matrix. looks better.
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when i first saw the matrix, i thought it looked pretty cool and new age. its not a bad car for the price. i hear its supposed to be the "sporty" corolla. but of course..id take my c230 over it anyday
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when i first saw the matrix, i thought it looked pretty cool and new age. its not a bad car for the price. i hear its supposed to be the "sporty" corolla. but of course..id take my c230 over it anyday
I thought it was just basically a Corolla S with a wagon body... I'm almost sure they have the same performance numbers...
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I thought it was just basically a Corolla S with a wagon body... I'm almost sure they have the same performance numbers...
yep basically the same
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the sportier version of the matrix (dont know which one it is) uses the celica engine though.
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Re: had a run in with a matrix this morning

Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
it was the XRS model. I beat it. I think they have around the same hp as we do but no torque at all. Just thought I would share.
Tim
Sorry to disappoint but a Matrix XRS has 180hp and 130ft/lb of torque and FWD. The AWD version has even less hp and torque. a Celica GT-S (same hp but better tranny, susp, weight, etc) would be more of a competition.
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what do you mean sorry to disapoint. I knew I would beat it. Now if you could get the 180hp engine with a 5 speed and AWD that might be fun.
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Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
what do you mean sorry to disapoint. I knew I would beat it. Now if you could get the 180hp engine with a 5 speed and AWD that might be fun.
They need to turbo the matrix just like all its competitors. Whats up with Toyota and NON TURBOS these days!?!?
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the key to getting the 180 HP from the Matrix is you have to rev the crap out of it....like 7500 RPM is where the 180 HP is - if you're not willing to rev it...you'll never see the 180 HP
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Jorel: I know this sounds crazy but if Toyota would have had a turbo AND AWD in the Celica, I might have gotten that car. It looks good, but I'm not a FWD fan.

Bagwell: yeah who ever it was they didnt rev it at the light. They did rev while racing but they didnt drop the clutch on the luanch.
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Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
Jorel: I know this sounds crazy but if Toyota would have had a turbo AND AWD in the Celica, I might have gotten that car. It looks good, but I'm not a FWD fan.
That doesnt sound too crazy timmy...remember, toyota did have a AWD S/C version....I believe it was called the "all track"
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in the current version of the celica?
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Originally posted by TimmyC230boy
in the current version of the celica?
Oh no...the last generation ones...
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the celica gt-four had AWD.


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