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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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humm... Just because the mounting looks terrible, and it makes you think I am a ricer. So you must be one of the ricers as well, since you have tinted windows and clear side markers.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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The installation is very easy, took me about 30 min for the whole setup. I will try some gauge pods for other cars next week, hope I can find one can fit the C230k without much modify.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Blitz Dual Turbo Timer


* Compact size and easy to use.

* Display set timer

* LCD display for easy to see in day and night

* Full Auto Timer that automatically calculates minimum required time for idle and counts down automatically when ignition is off

* Manual Timer to set your desired timer setting

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* Digital Boost Meter that displays the actual boost pressure

* Peak Hold of boost pressure can be checked



14289 Dual Turbo Timer (Free Shipping to anywhere with purchace of a TT harness) *harness are listed above* $135.00
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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maybe a setup like this this in a SLK32 can work?

Link!
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
maybe a setup like this this in a SLK32 can work?

Link!
Nice link! Very informative.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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Nice link! Very informative.
Thanks!

BrabusCClass i did not think u were still alive :p :p i have not seen u on MBWorld in a while. I see you got a carbon fiber hood, how do u like it? u got any pics?
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:12 PM
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Good job eason, I like your gauge very much
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
I don't think the VDO guage is bad. They make one just like this but 0-15 PSI and it's only about $25. Still have to find a nice mount for it.
I like this gauge. It is classic German styling. I may have to get one if I get that neat little item Kleemann is working on.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Lynn
I like this gauge. It is classic German styling. I may have to get one if I get that neat little item Kleemann is working on.
what item?
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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i had an eclipse and the boost gauge was stock and built in the instrument cluster. my vw now i have a boost gauge and i like it.
Turbocharged cars generally come with boost gauges because the amount of boost changes depending on certain factors (engine speed, exhaust flow characteristics, etc). To avoid turbo lag there are things that can be done to maintain boost (such as rapidly blipping the throttle in a corner to keep the boost up - Aryton Senna used to be a master of this); having a boost gauge allows the driver to closely monitor the boost the turbo is producing. The boost in a supercharged motor however is primarily dependent on engine speed (since the rotors are turned by the crank - instead of turbines placed in the exhaust flow), this is a linear relationship and the car should always be making essentially the same boost for a particular engine speed - which is why most supercharged motors don't come with a boost gauge.

They're still cool however.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
what item?
How about an item which results in 299 hp? Works on either engine, but not as much hp with the 1.8.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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sounds good. how much?

Originally posted by Lynn
How about an item which results in 299 hp? Works on either engine, but not as much hp with the 1.8.
what are we talking about $$$ wise? less than 1K? 1-2K? more?

just a ball park $. is this something kleeman might be selling or is this just a one off?
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:56 PM
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Kleemann says the target price is under $3000. They are replacing the Eaton M45 with a Lysholm screw type supercharger with much higher boost.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by trench
The boost in a supercharged motor however is primarily dependent on engine speed (since the rotors are turned by the crank - instead of turbines placed in the exhaust flow), this is a linear relationship and the car should always be making essentially the same boost for a particular engine speed - which is why most supercharged motors don't come with a boost gauge.
Not necessarily so, yes the amount of boost the S/C puts out is relational to how fast it spins BUT, the amount of boost the engine uses is dependent on lots of variables. It lets off a lot of boost through the bypass valve in day to day driving. What I want to see is boost that the engine is getting, not what the S/C is putting out.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by trench
Turbocharged cars generally come with boost gauges because the amount of boost changes depending on certain factors (engine speed, exhaust flow characteristics, etc). To avoid turbo lag there are things that can be done to maintain boost (such as rapidly blipping the throttle in a corner to keep the boost up - Aryton Senna used to be a master of this); having a boost gauge allows the driver to closely monitor the boost the turbo is producing. The boost in a supercharged motor however is primarily dependent on engine speed (since the rotors are turned by the crank - instead of turbines placed in the exhaust flow), this is a linear relationship and the car should always be making essentially the same boost for a particular engine speed - which is why most supercharged motors don't come with a boost gauge.

They're still cool however.

- BT
i know you said they generally do, and thats why i was a little pissed when my VW didnt come with one. so i had one put in. sometimes you cant understand the meaning behind why auto makers do what they do (cassette as standard equipment)!!! and since S/C motors dont need them and im kinda passed that phase i dont think ill putting one in my coupe.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Lynn
Kleemann says the target price is under $3000. They are replacing the Eaton M45 with a Lysholm screw type supercharger with much higher boost.
when are they scheduled to realese this? and are u having it done? will anyother engine modification be needed?
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Nice gauge. Im gonna put mine on the A piller but have it integrated so it looks stock.
You are aware of the fact that your engine is normally aspirated (= no boost to measure as it doesn't exist), right?
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by vadim
You are aware of the fact that your engine is normally aspirated (= no boost to measure as it doesn't exist), right?
i thought i remember him once saying he may get a Kleemann Kompressor, if so then it will work just fine.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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i thought i remember him once saying he may get a Kleemann Kompressor, if so then it will work just fine.
Thousand apologies, then
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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Thousand apologies, then
i thought thats what he once said, i may be wrong though.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
when are they scheduled to realese this? and are u having it done? will anyother engine modification be needed?
Brandon is working on this now. He hopes to have it done in 3 weeks. He will be posting pics at kineda's forum. That is where I got the info. I won't be having it done soon. I just bought the Renntech intercooler and will be ordering Eibach sway bars tomorrow. I am also thinking of getting XM, and also about updating my home entertainment system. The audio part is 17 or 18 years old. I don't have the money to do everything.
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Brandon is working on this now. He hopes to have it done in 3 weeks. He will be posting pics at kineda's forum. That is where I got the info. I won't be having it done soon. I just bought the Renntech intercooler and will be ordering Eibach sway bars tomorrow. I am also thinking of getting XM, and also about updating my home entertainment system. The audio part is 17 or 18 years old. I don't have the money to do everything.
I would imagine that it will be highly recommended to replace new intercooler with this new supercharger. Do you have any details? What about fuel delivery? The semi substantiated rumor that our coupes run lean with the pulley modification is well known. I imagine that with enough boost to make 299 HP you definitely need to compensate in the fuel area. I'm pretty sure the engine can handle it. I'm just not sure it can be done without a new intercooler, ecu modifications, and compensating for the fuel delivery. What are your thoughts?
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by WyattEarp
I would imagine that it will be highly recommended to replace new intercooler with this new supercharger. Do you have any details? What about fuel delivery? The semi substantiated rumor that our coupes run lean with the pulley modification is well known. I imagine that with enough boost to make 299 HP you definitely need to compensate in the fuel area. I'm pretty sure the engine can handle it. I'm just not sure it can be done without a new intercooler, ecu modifications, and compensating for the fuel delivery. What are your thoughts?
He is going to modify the fuel system with an RRFPR (Rising Rate Fuel Pressure Regulator). The stock fuel pump is the same one used on the CLK55, according to Brandon.
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