bumpnzx3

As some of you may or may not know- I bought a set of S5R's under the assumption (from the vendor as well as Moven) that they would clear my calipers. Long story short- they don't. I have been trying to sell them with little to no luck. I absolutely love the wheels- which makes it worse.

I have recently ran across a brand/style of wheels referenced above (NZO Corsa). They appear the same- however it's plain to see the front offset is different. I have talked to the owner of NZO as well as seen pictures he posted on here- they will clear the brakes and sit inside the fender, so I will be fine since my car is lowered.

My question is this- has anyone seen both of these wheels? Or can you tell by pictures- do they look the same? Assuming I use the stock centercap- would you be able to tell that the fronts were different from the rears? No one seems to want to buy my setup even though I have priced them soo low. I am starting to think I will just buy two NZO fronts, have the front tires taken off my S5R's and have them reinstalled on the NZO's. The money I spend to do this will be no more than the money I will already loose when/if my setup ever sells. I would just use the two fronts that I have no to make a cool coffee table out of

I really what to get some shoes on my car- and I am tired of waiting for mine to sell. I think this might be the best use of my patience and money. Just not sure if they look the same. Pictures they do- but that might just be my eye making me believe what I want to

Thoughs/opinions?

The wheels off the car are my S5R's- the others are the NZO.

MidnghtPressor

just looking at the wheel in these pics, the only thing i notice and this is only because i am comparing them so closely is the screws between spokes. there are 5 on the nzo's and 4 on the movens. im confused if the wheels that are sitting on the box were supposed to be for your rears? did the set have the same offset for fronts and rears? if you can get the movens in a different offset i might be willing to purchase the others and use them for my rears.
lemme know, also are they 19s?

bumpnzx3

those in the box are the rears. the rears had an even larger lip than the fronts. they are stamped as being et35 (rear) et32 (front) anyway- they don't offer them in any other offset. the fronts will fit with a 10mm spacer- but that sits the tire just a tad outside the fender. normally that would be acceptable if the car sat at stock height- but it doesn't. it's lowered- so i am scared i will damage a fender. if your car is stock height- you would be fine.

also- if you don't have BBK they would fit with no spacers.

i did notice the different amount of screws- i wonder if anyone would ever notice if i/you never pointed it out though.

bumpnzx3

crap- back to the drawing board. i just noticed the area in the center around the lugs is different. the movens are flat and the nzo is curved.

back to waiting for someone that doesn't have BBK to buy my full set of new moven's

MidnghtPressor

i do not have a big brake kit so im assuming they would fit correct? how much do these wheels run retail and how much would you be willing to let the fronts go for? again, these are 19s correct?

bumpnzx3

I don't want to split them up now that I see the centers of the wheels are quite a bit different. I paid a little over $2k for the entire setup. The lowest I will go is $1500 plus shipping. As stated before- all is new and never driven on. Stickers still on the tires. Shipping to the northwest coast was around $125 and shipping to the east cost was around $100- just to give you an idea what shipping would run.

19x8.5 fronts and 19x9.5 rears (235/35/19 F tires and 265/30/19 R tires)

MidnghtPressor

so lemme get this straight. if i have the sport package i have the bb kit?

bumpnzx3

most likely- yes. have a look at the front calipers. if they are a silver/gunmetal color with "Mercedes Benz" in white lettering- you have BBK.

MidnghtPressor

how much are they not clearing by? if its only a couple millameters u could have the rear of the spokes machined a bit.

bumpnzx3

About 10mm. It's possible to have them machined- but I would rather sell them than do that. Granted- that might be a cheaper option.

TruTaing

Did you try to just swap out the tires? I think most people run 225 up front on 8.5 wide wheels. Im skeptical that you need a 10mm spacer to make the wheels and brakes fit. Its more like you need a 10mm spacer to make the TIRES fit. And most people who have bbk generally go w/ an "aggressive" offset of like 26-28 (I think), but with a 10 mm spacer you're looking at ET 22. Which is really low for the front end.

bumpnzx3

if the truth were known- i think Moven/Monet just screwed up with they took their measurements to make the wheel. there's no way to have a lip as large as these have on the front, with the backspacing listed- and still clear a large caliper. i have yet to see a wheel on a bbk c-class that had a lip this big. standard calipers wouldn't be a problem.

everywhere i looked- listed the S5R as not fitting BBK. however- they told me that's why they were coming out with an et32 front (used to be et35). so- i waited for a couple months to get them. turns out they should have done their measurements a little more carefully.

TruTaing

So, when you attempted to mount these on your car w/ the 2004.5+ brakes, the spokes hit the calipers?

bumpnzx3

yep

MidnghtPressor

10mm might weaken the integrity of the wheel if that is on all 5 spokes

bumpnzx3

if it were a forged wheel- i might have thought about it a little more. however- it's cast.

MidnghtPressor

not to mention balancing might be a bit chalenging unless you went to a good machine shop

MiKeSSw203

wtf you guys are thinking of shaving the back of the spokes?? I wouldn't do it especially on replicas

MidnghtPressor

thats why i was asking how much it was. a mm might not be so bad. i did not realize it was 10mm he needed. then he said they were cast and not forged

TruTaing

Did you mount the wheels w/ the 5mm spacers listed in your classified thread? Did the brakes hit the spokes with the 5mm spacers? It shouldnt hit in this case unless the offset is not properly listed.

bumpnzx3

i never said i was going to shave the back of the spokes. i've been around the block a time or two.....


i tried it with the 5mm spacers. i also tried it with them doubled up (just to see the clearance)- and that's where i came up with my 10mm number from. that just barely cleared.

it's hard to explain by typing- but the way the spokes are shaped is what's screwing things up. the spokes are shaped like a "C". the flat spot on the "C" or spoke would clear my brakes just fine. but, they made the spoke "C" shaped, i would guess to make each spoke stronger- and that's what hits the caliper.

dbvolz

I have a set of NZO Corsas on my W203. They are 19x8.5 and 19x10 with 265/30/19 tire on the back wheels. Fits great, no problems clearing my brakes, tight fit, but prob 1.5 mm gap between spokes and caliper. Now forgive me if I haven't scrutinized this post, and may be reposting information, however my two cents are that: Get the NZOs and sell the S5Rs as a set. You'll probably get more money that way and I can tell you from experience: the Corsa is a great wheel.