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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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what's that button behind the accelerator pedal?

Hi all,

I was installing carpets in my C-Coupe the other day and noticed a circular button behind my accelerator pedal. It is located where the pedal reaches when you press it all the way and it clicks when pressed.

Anyone know what it's for?
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:18 PM
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Transmission kick-down for cars with auto transmission. It sends a WOT signal to the ECU.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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Avlis, if you press the accelerator all the way down but not hard enough to press this switch there is no kick-down? Oh, now I see you have a manual. Can someone with auto try this? I would be interested to know.

I think this button is used to disable the speedlimit on euro-spec cars but maybe its used for kick-down aswell.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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Feddy,
My palms got a little sweaty when I was typing the reply above because I'm not 100% sure of the button's function. This question was asked a while ago and that seemed to be the be the answer du'jour. Here's that thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...n+kickdown+gas
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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I have an auto.

The trans will kick down before reaching the button, since it's based on throttle position.

If you push the button, the trans will kick down again, provided that it wouldn't allow the car to shift into the red-zone. It also forces the trans to wait until red-line for upshifs, and provides WOT.

Gotta love throttle-by-wire!
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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it's a kickdown button for sure, i have it in my W202 c280, i didnt know they still have this feature on newer c class. u guys should try it, it's really fun it really squeezes out the power of the car.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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it's a standard 2-stage kickdown. my altima had it too. push down real fast and almost to button, drop 1 gear. push button, drop 2.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by avlis
Feddy,
My palms got a little sweaty when I was typing the reply above because I'm not 100% sure of the button's function. This question was asked a while ago and that seemed to be the be the answer du'jour. Here's that thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...n+kickdown+gas
Ok, that thread clarified everything. The button is used both for kick-down and disabling the speedlimit.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 03:56 AM
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it's the transmission kickdown bottom. as far as i know almost all European brand has the bottom. i.e. audi, bmw, mb, jag, vw, alfa, etc, but most japanese manufacturer put it on the shift lever called "O/D" (overdrive bottom). Now they finally began to put it behind the gas pedal.

Freddy, what do you mean by disabling the speedlimit??? if the car is electronically limited to 155 mph, the engine will cut out the gas at 155, doesn't matter how hard you floored the car.

btw never had a chance to use the bottom after i change my car from 328Ci to the 32.

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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 04:16 AM
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Freddy, what do you mean by disabling the speedlimit??? if the car is electronically limited to 155 mph, the engine will cut out the gas at 155, doesn't matter how hard you floored the car.
Well, in Europe we have a speedlimiter or actually 2 of them. One is a "permanent" one which you can set (from the menu) for example if you are driving with wintertires. The other one is activated by pressing the cruisecontrol-lever. Both of them can be disabled temporarily by pressing the accelerator all the way down.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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the bmw has it also. i, too, asked the same question. thought it was a defect at first!
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Freddy
Well, in Europe we have a speedlimiter or actually 2 of them. One is a "permanent" one which you can set (from the menu) for example if you are driving with wintertires. The other one is activated by pressing the cruisecontrol-lever. Both of them can be disabled temporarily by pressing the accelerator all the way down.
Must be another cool feature like adjustable headlight angle via dash mounted knob, that we don't have on US spec Cs.

Would be funny to set it at 20 MPH before you turn your car over to a valet, if it would set that low ;-)
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Must be another cool feature like adjustable headlight angle via dash mounted knob, that we don't have on US spec Cs.

Would be funny to set it at 20 MPH before you turn your car over to a valet, if it would set that low ;-)
"adjustable headlight angle via dash mounted knob"??? now this i want to see. does anyone have a picture of this knob?
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Freddy
Well, in Europe we have a speedlimiter or actually 2 of them. One is a "permanent" one which you can set (from the menu) for example if you are driving with wintertires. The other one is activated by pressing the cruisecontrol-lever. Both of them can be disabled temporarily by pressing the accelerator all the way down.
I'm not sure about the "second" speedlimiter you are talking about. seems like you have the cruisecontrol confused as a speedlimiter. the cruisecontrol does not sets a limit on the car. it simply is telling the computer to hold whatever speed you are at when pressing the lever, and it will memorize the last speed when you cancel the cruisecontrol.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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Frank, from what I have heard of the Euro cruise control is that is sort of the opposite of ours. They can set it to a max speed and no matter what the position of the throttle the speed won't be exceeded. The button can override that for passing.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 02:11 AM
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We do have 2 different speedlimiters + the "normal" cruisecontrol. Earlier I thought the euro version did not have the normal cruisecontrol because mine was broken . But its there and I think it works just like the US version. If I press the cruisecontrol lever in it will activate the speedlimit. If I tap the lever down or up it will activate the cruisecontrol.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 02:35 AM
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"adjustable headlight angle via dash mounted knob"??? now this i want to see. does anyone have a picture of this knob?
It's just another cool feature you are not likely to use very often...
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by Freddy
We do have 2 different speedlimiters + the "normal" cruisecontrol. Earlier I thought the euro version did not have the normal cruisecontrol because mine was broken . But its there and I think it works just like the US version. If I press the cruisecontrol lever in it will activate the speedlimit. If I tap the lever down or up it will activate the cruisecontrol.
That's right, one operates like normal cruise control whereby you set the minimum speed and then take your foot off the accelerator. With the speed limiter you set the maximum speed and drive as normal by pressing the accelerator. Once you reach the set speed, the accelerator pedal resists...it kind of feels like there is a highly pressurised tennis ball under the pedal. If you press hard enough the limiter deactivates...are you guys in the US sure you don't have this?...I could have sworn my mate in NY had this function on his C...here's a pick of the lever:
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 05:32 AM
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DAMN MBUSA, DAMN US options.

those thing are COOL....
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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JeT, we do not have the speed limiter. Our cruise control stalks are very similar, except we do not have the "LIMIT/CRUISE ->" text or the little indicator light.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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That is too hip, upper and lower limits.

And that little LED. Waaaaaawwwww
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 01:06 PM
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JeT, we do not have the speed limiter. Our cruise control stalks are very similar, except we do not have the "LIMIT/CRUISE ->" text or the little indicator light.
Well, regardless, you aren't missing out on much. I've only used it once before just to try it out.
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Ya, I know it's true.

Alas though, the grass is always greener....

Like people in Sweden wanting our US Spec second cup holder ;-)
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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the adjustable headlight angle is actually an old feature, i remember my dad's car has it, he has a 94 c180 btw. comparing it with my c280 here in the US, im surprised that mine dont have it.
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