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Originally posted by MacPhisto
Thanks.
Who makes the shocks that are used in the Carlsson setup?
Thanks.
Who makes the shocks that are used in the Carlsson setup?
Too me it didn't really matter, I like the ride.
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Originally posted by KWiK
1. Awesome Ride, perfect setup for the W203
2. no guessing which shock will match the spring
3. height adjustable, no one height fits all
4. quality product from a reputable MB tuner
I really like the ride of the W203 with this kit. If you need a second opinion, ask CHATMANR, he has this kit installed.
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1. Awesome Ride, perfect setup for the W203
2. no guessing which shock will match the spring
3. height adjustable, no one height fits all
4. quality product from a reputable MB tuner
I really like the ride of the W203 with this kit. If you need a second opinion, ask CHATMANR, he has this kit installed.
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Originally posted by amdeutsch
Wait a minute now. I thought you had vogtlands on your car and had been recommending them. I'm confused now. Enlighten me please.
Wait a minute now. I thought you had vogtlands on your car and had been recommending them. I'm confused now. Enlighten me please.
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Originally posted by KWiK
I do have the Vogtlands installed and for a lowering spring with stock shocks I think they do a nice job with a good drop. If you want to lower you car without replacing the shocks, the Vogtlands are a great choice.
I do have the Vogtlands installed and for a lowering spring with stock shocks I think they do a nice job with a good drop. If you want to lower you car without replacing the shocks, the Vogtlands are a great choice.
I would like to see a lowering of about 3/4" - 1" all around. I'm also gonna make this hard on all of your recommendations with these conditions:
1) Usage of stock shocks.
2) Improvement in handling if possible.
3) Only slight decrease in ride comfort.
4) As cost effective as possible since I'll have to get it done.
5) Color the same as OEM to avoid warranty questions.
6) Etc, etc, etc. You all know what I mean.
P.S.
I'm in a completely different market (very small) and will have to consider resell down the road: i.e. what goes in CA will not go here.
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hard is an understatement...
Originally posted by amdeutsch
Yes, you guys are right about the gap.
I would like to see a lowering of about 3/4" - 1" all around. I'm also gonna make this hard on all of your recommendations with these conditions:
1) Usage of stock shocks.
- To stick with stock shocks go with something like the Eibach or Vogtland. Stiffer choices like the H&R will make the car too bouncy and wear the shocks out faster.
2) Improvement in handling if possible.
- with just springs, depending on how you drive, you may not notice a difference. Keep in mind handling and comfort are at opposite ends of the scale, where you end up on the scale depends on your taste. I would guess Eibach or Vogtland will fit #2 & #3 best (I bet you would really like the Carlsson coilover, but they don't fit #4)
3) Only slight decrease in ride comfort.
- see #2
4) As cost effective as possible since I'll have to get it done.
- since you are not in SoCal, I think the Vogtlands ($190) are priced best right now.
5) Color the same as OEM to avoid warranty questions.
- I don't know of any black springs other than AMG, maybe Brabus but they don't fit #4. Where are you located? Are the dealers really that picky
6) Etc, etc, etc. You all know what I mean.
- Resale isn't an issue because you can always go back to stock before you sell.
P.S.
I'm in a completely different market (very small) and will have to consider resell down the road: i.e. what goes in CA will not go here.
The old fart who wants his cake and eat it too.:p
Yes, you guys are right about the gap.
I would like to see a lowering of about 3/4" - 1" all around. I'm also gonna make this hard on all of your recommendations with these conditions:
1) Usage of stock shocks.
- To stick with stock shocks go with something like the Eibach or Vogtland. Stiffer choices like the H&R will make the car too bouncy and wear the shocks out faster.
2) Improvement in handling if possible.
- with just springs, depending on how you drive, you may not notice a difference. Keep in mind handling and comfort are at opposite ends of the scale, where you end up on the scale depends on your taste. I would guess Eibach or Vogtland will fit #2 & #3 best (I bet you would really like the Carlsson coilover, but they don't fit #4)
3) Only slight decrease in ride comfort.
- see #2
4) As cost effective as possible since I'll have to get it done.
- since you are not in SoCal, I think the Vogtlands ($190) are priced best right now.
5) Color the same as OEM to avoid warranty questions.
- I don't know of any black springs other than AMG, maybe Brabus but they don't fit #4. Where are you located? Are the dealers really that picky
6) Etc, etc, etc. You all know what I mean.
- Resale isn't an issue because you can always go back to stock before you sell.
P.S.
I'm in a completely different market (very small) and will have to consider resell down the road: i.e. what goes in CA will not go here.
The old fart who wants his cake and eat it too.:p
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To answer
I'm located in KS. Regarding my dealer (only one in a 150 mile radius). It seems that thanx to the answers this forum provided me and then him in turn he is learning more about the cars he sells. Even so the GM is a transfer from BMW (used to own his own shop) they are very picky about what they sell, how the represent it and the answers they provide regarding aftermarket.
Anyway, I thought Eibach are black. At least that is the color shown on tirerack.
Thanx for the education KWIK. You do your name proud.
Originally posted by KWiK
- I don't know of any black springs other than AMG, maybe Brabus but they don't fit #4. Where are you located? Are the dealers really that picky.
- I don't know of any black springs other than AMG, maybe Brabus but they don't fit #4. Where are you located? Are the dealers really that picky.
Anyway, I thought Eibach are black. At least that is the color shown on tirerack.
Thanx for the education KWIK. You do your name proud.
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Originally posted by amdeutsch
Anyway, I thought Eibach are black. At least that is the color shown on tirerack.
Anyway, I thought Eibach are black. At least that is the color shown on tirerack.
, but I am a bit color blind 
Maybe they just look black in the picture. It is winter, so no matter what color you get, they will be black in a few weeks.
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i have Brabus spring. it looks like silver color, but it's for coupe not sedan. i can't be sure......just to give you an idea what color it might be.
as about the warrenty....as soon as you mod your suspension, no matter spring or shox...you lose your suspension warrenty for sure!
as about the warrenty....as soon as you mod your suspension, no matter spring or shox...you lose your suspension warrenty for sure!
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Originally posted by zhaoyi
as about the warrenty....as soon as you mod your suspension, no matter spring or shox...you lose your suspension warrenty for sure!
as about the warrenty....as soon as you mod your suspension, no matter spring or shox...you lose your suspension warrenty for sure!
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I dont think the springs will be a problem at your dealer. They get dirty really fast and you cant tell. Eibachs are grey, H&R are blue and I forgot what color the Vogtland are. I think red or something. Regardless they get dirty fast.
Eibachs are grey, H&R are blue and I forgot what color the Vogtland are. I think red or something. Regardless they get dirty fast.
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What do you mean by suspension warranty? Im just wondering because after I lowered my car I went into the dealer to get my car aligned and they did it for free and even installed a camber kit. I dont think they care if its lowered or not. I had my Monoblock V on too.
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Originally posted by amdeutsch
Thanx you all.
I'm so glad that nobody has mentioned to take the paint of and let them "weather" in order to approximate the OEM look.LOL
Thanx you all.
I'm so glad that nobody has mentioned to take the paint of and let them "weather
" in order to approximate the OEM look.LOL
