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Old 01-20-2003, 03:00 AM
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About a year ago before I installed the Kleemman Pulley Kit I decided to test the car without ESP on. Outside temp was 55F. I slammed the clutch at 2500 RPM and proceeded to turn the wheel to complete a 90 degree left turn. It had the noticeable rear end swing but it recovered fairly quick and overall not scary, Just one swing and then it straightened itself out.

Today for some reason, boredom I guess, I decided to try the same thing. The conditions outside where slightly different 24F and of course now I have a pulley. I have 21000 miles on my coupe and have had the pulley for about 14000. Well the net result was actually more than I expected . She pulls hard enough now that if you don't counteract soon enough you will find yourself doing the see-saw pretty quickly. Needless to say ESP stays on all the time.

Just thought I'd share for those of you who have not pushed your coupe ***** to the walls. How many of you have pushed your coupe?
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You do some pretty strange things when you get bored. I hope you can manage to keep your car off the sidewalk next time you have nothing to do.
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Re: Esp Off!

Originally posted by WyattEarp
How many of you have pushed your coupe?
I know some folks here have pushed their coupes into the service bay. :p
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I did a similar test in the snow and I have a pulley too. I thought it was very easy to get into a spin and just drive right out of it by steering the opposite way, without lifting the throttle.
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Originally posted by viper
You do some pretty strange things when you get bored. I hope you can manage to keep your car off the sidewalk next time you have nothing to do.
Speaking of doing some strange things when get bored, here is what my friend and I did when we were waiting to get back our car from Service A....

Burn out with the Courtesy Car... lol
1.8L Courtesy Coupe Burnout
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Eason:

What happened to your car? Why did you need a courtesy car? That clip was taken in Richmond River Road?
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I've done a few nice burnouts (well not exactly burnouts, just nice peelouts that lasted all the way through first gear) with my coupe, and I've gotten WAAAAY loose a few times, but the car handles well and is pretty easy to recover. Sorry I dont have any sweet videos.
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Originally posted by eason


Burn out with the Courtesy Car... lol
1.8L Courtesy Coupe Burnout
Yo eason, can you PM me or reply on what you did to accomplish that burnout. I wasn't able to (maybe because it was pouring outside) but regardless can you provide step-by-step?
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Originally posted by Big Sheesh
Eason:

What happened to your car? Why did you need a courtesy car? That clip was taken in Richmond River Road?
My car was in for Service A...Yes, the clip was taken in Richmond.. end of No.4 Road.
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Eason:

How long does Service A take? A few hours? A day? etc.
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I wasn't able to (maybe because it was pouring outside)
You probably didn't turn the ESP off. It shouldn't be too hard, especially if it's raining. That makes it easier.
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Oh yeah NO Esp you can burn for days ... or until the tires catch a flame.
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Originally posted by 02Impressor
See sig. :p



Yo eason, can you PM me or reply on what you did to accomplish that burnout. I wasn't able to (maybe because it was pouring outside) but regardless can you provide step-by-step?
Dude, you manage to kill everything
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Dude, you manage to kill everything
You mean literally? WTF you talking about, I'm just trying to get some tips for technique.
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02Impressor:

Ignore Outland's post. That guy's a sick, sarcastic mother****er. His posts provide no information at all. He gets off on trashing other people's posts.
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Originally posted by 02Impressor
You mean literally? WTF you talking about, I'm just trying to get some tips for technique.
Just rib'n ya. IIRC, your neutral drop story was the funniest post Ive read in a while.

Turn off ESP next time.
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Originally posted by Big Sheesh
02Impressor:

Ignore Outland's post. That guy's a sick, sarcastic mother****er. His posts provide no information at all. He gets off on trashing other people's posts.
What's with the language Sheesher? I gave you a little ribbing about your snit with the dealer service guy and now you open on me every chance you get. Chill, man.

Now, if you were posting on the topic, I'd expect it go like this:

You want to go complain to the MB service dept that your tech didn't know how to do a proper burnout in a C-Coupe?



Yesssss, I'm being sarcastic.

Cheers!

BTW, Eason, Nice brake stand. Any rubber left on the tires when you got back
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Thanks guys.. The courtesy car only have less then 800km when I got the tire, so the tires are very new..

The burnout is acutally harder than I though, because the ECU can sense the rear wheels are spinning even with ESP off. Here is how I do it.

1) Turn off ESP.
2)Step on brake with left foot while giving gas with right foot.
(you will feel the rear wheels starts to spin)
3)Here is the important point, when the tires spins to a certain, the ECU will starts to cut the power, then you have to release the brake a little bit. When the ECU senses the front wheel is moving, it will give back the full power. At this point, hold the brake again and smoke will starts to built up... Hope this help...lol
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Originally posted by eason
Thanks guys.. The courtesy car only have less then 800km when I got the tire, so the tires are very new..

The burnout is acutally harder than I though, because the ECU can sense the rear wheels are spinning even with ESP off. Here is how I do it.

1) Turn off ESP.
2)Step on brake with left foot while giving gas with right foot.
(you will feel the rear wheels starts to spin)
3)Here is the important point, when the tires spins to a certain, the ECU will starts to cut the power, then you have to release the brake a little bit. When the ECU senses the front wheel is moving, it will give back the full power. At this point, hold the brake again and smoke will starts to built up... Hope this help...lol
Did you try 'Dyno' mode?

But wait, wasn't this a 1.8L? I heard that Dyno mode doesn't work on the 1.8L's...bummer
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Originally posted by Outland
Did you try 'Dyno' mode?

But wait, wasn't this a 1.8L? I heard that Dyno mode doesn't work on the 1.8L's...bummer
I tried... no Dyno mode.... With Dyno mode.. only 1 wheel will be spinning.. haha..
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Haha... Got another courtesy car today, except this time is a C320 Wagon... Burning out in a C320 is way easier then in a 1.8L Coupe.

C320 Wagon Burnout
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I've been sending these "burnout" video links to the Service Manager at M-B in Richmond Auto Mall.

That's OK with you, isn't it?

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Re: busted

Originally posted by Mike T.
I've been sending these "burnout" video links to the Service Manager at M-B in Richmond Auto Mall.

That's OK with you, isn't it?

I think the service department and the car lot guys have done more burnouts then we did in their lot... haha...
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Re: busted

Originally posted by Mike T.
I've been sending these "burnout" video links to the Service Manager at M-B in Richmond Auto Mall.

That's OK with you, isn't it?

Awww mannnn!

No wonder MB uses Enterprise Rent a Wreck intead of MB loaners...it's your fault!


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